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Building a Gaming / Multimedia PC. (Maybe video editing too)

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Crow550

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Well, that is pretty cool I must say. Care to post a CPU-Z screencap? We need it for posterity.

1.42V is pretty aggressive though, I'd worry a little about the longevity of the CPU.

I did post a screen cap a few posts back.

I also have had it turned off since then as 80C is a bit too hot.
 

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Some other things....

When the PC is at Windows loading. The speakers will make a brief static sound?

The HDD light is not working. It's plugged in the right spot. Maybe I need to flip it?

Also should the Power Supply be fan side up or down? As it has a vent on the bottom of the case. I also shined a flashlight in the Power Supply. Sure a lot of hot glue or some gunk they used. :p

Also awaiting that replacemnet piece missing from my Power Supply or need to know if I need to send the whole thing back as rebate time is ticking away: https://lh6.googleusercontent.com/-NgS_irBGK00/TvP4l173k1I/AAAAAAAACiM/wHIH-8xW0tU/s800/DSCF1554.JPG Missing piece: https://lh5.googleusercontent.com/-P5HPKMwNtXA/TvP4mUEcnQI/AAAAAAAACiQ/lItsPP8AJB4/s800/DSCF1557.JPG As any of them pop off.
 
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lehtv

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You posted a CPU-Z shot from the memory tab, not the CPU tab. The HWmonitor screenshot doesn't show the clock speed.

Also should the Power Supply be fan side up or down?
For most people it won't matter either way.

With the fan up, you can exhaust hot air from inside the case. But that's not necessarily a good thing, for three reasons: 1) warmer PSU intake air, 2) you may want hot air to be exhausted out the top only, and 3) you may want to maintain positive air pressure in the case and therefore want to avoid too many exhausts. Also with the fan up, screws etc. can accidentally fall into the PSU while doing maintenance. And if your case intake fans have dust filters, little dust will get into the PSU. A dust filter directly below the PSU could theoretically impair airflow. And cable management can be slightly easier in a non-modular unit with the fan down since the cables will come out nearer to the motherboard.
 
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lehtv

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Where do you see the clock frequency there? I don't see it. What I do see: voltages, temperatures, fan speed, CPU power consumption. (Besides that, I know for a fact HWmonitor doesn't report clock speed...)
 

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*Looks again*

Oh. How do I take a pic with the HWmonitor? :p (I thought the one in bios. D'oh!)

Also the Mobo doesn't seem to beep when the bios screen pops up. Do I need to use the speaker that came with the case? I looked in the mobo manual and don't recall a spot for it?
 
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lehtv

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Oh. How do I take a pic with the HWmonitor? :p
Not sure what you mean... the screenshot you just posted is from HWmonitor.

Forgot to drink coffee this morning? :awe:

Also the Mobo doesn't seem to beep when the bios screen pops up.
Neither does mine IIRC. Does the mobo manual say it should beep when entering BIOS?

Do I need to use the speaker that came with the case? I looked in the mobo manual and don't recall a spot for it?
http://europe.asrock.com/downloadsite/manual/Z68%20Extreme3%20Gen3.pdf page 13 item 21
 
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Crow550

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Not sure what you mean... the screenshot you just posted is from HWmonitor.

Forgot to drink coffee this morning? :awe:



Neither does mine. Does the mobo manual say it should beep?

Actually yes. LOL! *Grabs some coffee* The Monitor in the bios is called HW Monitor. I also don't see many options in this program what am I missing?

I assume all Mobos beeped when the bios screen goes by. *Shrugs*
 

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I also don't see many options in this program what am I missing?

HWmonitor (the software, not your BIOS) only does what was described earlier: monitor voltages, temperatures, fan speed, CPU power consumption. That's it. To find out your actual CPU clock speed at any given moment, use CPU-Z. It'll show you the base clock, multiplier and the resulting clock speed, and it'll update those in real time (i.e. idle vs load).
 

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HWmonitor (the software, not your BIOS) only does what was described earlier: monitor voltages, temperatures, fan speed, CPU power consumption. That's it. To find out your actual CPU clock speed at any given moment, use CPU-Z. It'll show you the base clock, multiplier and the resulting clock speed, and it'll update those in real time (i.e. idle vs load).

LOL thanks!

For some reason I missed the part about using CPU-Z.

Ugh. Sorry for my senior moment. It is my B-day Tomorrow. Getting old in my 20s. :p

Really I just haven't slowed down yet from the Holidays just yet and yesterday was rushing to get these mail in rebates properly filled out and sent in. Getting a hold of support for the Power Supply. Ugh! LOL!
 
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Here's a cap from CPU-Z while running L4D2:
CPU-Z.jpg

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With Turbo Boost 50 off:
Fullscreen&
 
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That is pretty nice. But 1.432V is just too high for long term use IMO. I'd say you're going to get very comfortable volts at 4.5GHZ with an aftermarket cooler.
 

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That is pretty nice. But 1.432V is just too high for long term use IMO. I'd say you're going to get very comfortable volts at 4.5GHZ with an aftermarket cooler.

I don't plan to OC it till I get a better cooler. However do I really need to OC just yet? I mean will 4.8ghz be overkill? Or not?

However how does Turbo Boost work and does it clock very high? I don't want it to auto clock to speeds to cause the temp to raise too high.

I think I will flip the PSU over later, facing the bottom dust filter too. So it keeps the inside cooler.

I did take the PSU out to see if the plastic piece of the PSU was in there. I didn't hear anything rattle. Afraid to open it, plus void the Warranty.
 
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I don't plan to OC it till I get a better cooler. However do I really need to OC just yet? I mean will 4.8ghz be overkill? Or not?

However how does Turbo Boost work and does it clock very high? I don't want it to auto clock to speeds to cause the temp to raise too high.

I think I will flip the PSU over later, facing the bottom dust filter too. So it keeps the inside cooler.

I did take the PSU out to see if the plastic piece of the PSU was in there. I didn't hear anything rattle. Afraid to open it, plus void the Warranty.

4.8GHz is a really nice clock, but I agree that 1.43V is just too much for normal use. Turbo Boost is somewhat intelligent and will back off if temps get dangerous. Keep in mind that 80C is perfectly safe for a CPU though.

As for the PSU, looking at your picture of the piece, I can't really tell what it is. Can you post a picture of where it came from?
 
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Back of a Sata power connector.

Ah, you're right, didn't see your second picture. Since those terminals that are exposed are just punchdowns, I would say that you should definitely get a replacement piece or RMA the PSU. They will eventually come loose if they are not held in place by the cap.
 

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Ah, you're right, didn't see your second picture. Since those terminals that are exposed are just punchdowns, I would say that you should definitely get a replacement piece or RMA the PSU. They will eventually come loose if they are not held in place by the cap.

I know.

I'm waiting to find out if they will replace that part or I have to RMA the whole unit.

Which will also cut close to my rebate end time if they don't hurry.... All I can do is wait and if no response is made quick enough I will have to order another and return this one before the 31st.
 
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Flipped the power supply over. It didn't rattle out any Power Supply piece. :p Checked the case again. Must have just not came with one. I might as well order another one and return this one.

Also found the speaker port. Wasn't item 31. It's on the mobo and it says speaker, it was kinda hidden. Yeah hidden. :D It made an odd bleep sound so I assume it's plugged in right. :p

Flipped the HDD LED plug and it's blinking so it works. Looks like it's always on but I think it's from the LED right by it.
 

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So....

For the Power Supply. NCIX is out of stock. It's also now $10 cheaper for the 750w. Making it $60. They can't replace the missing piece either.

Rebate on item has to be purchased by the 31st. So I can either cut the UPC off the box and get an exchange (if they get any in stock) or return it and wait.

Or pay the same price for the 650w at Newegg..... :\

I guess I could send in the rebate and wait till some get in stock....

Crappy.
 

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So they can't price match.

They are sending a piece from a spare power supply (guess some other random one) that should fit? Also should have them back in stock on Monday.

Wonder if I could return it and purchase it again with the lower price and still get the rebate since I did originally purchase it before the cut off date of the 31st?

Well see....
 

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Another small issue is the light of the Power led seems to be bleeding into the HDD led.

Video (I was really tired when I filmed it. LOL) & Pic: https://picasaweb.google.com/102206...&authkey=Gv1sRgCMCNwI21tvXiIg&feat=directlink

Most important shit is the video card & the power supply connection. Bleeding LED light is low on my list. I assume it's the light bleeding unless one of the connections was mislabeled.

As for the power supply if I can still get the rebate using the proof of purchase of the first power supply and if they get more on Monday. I might order another and return this one. Maybe....

Is there any reason to have the Intel video card drivers installed? Any hardware assist features it has that the AMD card doesn't? just wondering.

Also some previous questions above I asked that are unanswered.

Can't wait to have all the kinks worked out. Then in January I am gonna start digitizing all my Family's old home videos. I got a JVC HR-S9900U S-VCR with TBC. Along with the ATI Theater 750 and encoding in raw AVI should be able to do some nice clean up. I heard encoding in HD will actually help with the analog clean up as it creates more pixels to work with. Something I read in the Videohelp.org forums.

Anyways.... Once again thanks for all the help. :)
 
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Is there any reason to have the Intel video card drivers installed? Any hardware assist features it has that the AMD card doesn't? just wondering.

If you're not actually connecting a monitor via the motherboard... no I don't see why you should install the drivers :)

I don't know the answer to your previous questions. That's between you/ncix/newegg.