Build for photography

[skalirajan]

Hi
After going through forum i came up partlist as below.its for photography and no games.i am not looking for overclocking

Latter on ill add graphics card

http://pcpartpicker.com/user/Skalirajan/saved/2qmD

1) whether the parts are compatible?
2) i selected i7 4770 since i dnt want go for older ones
3) Am i spending money which is not required to add ?means am i overkilling anywhere
4) did i miss any part apart from mouse, keyboard?
5) how i can reduce the budget to 900$ without impacting performance?

Thanks in advance

 

[Cerb]

1) Yes.

3) You're not going overkill. But, including monitor, you could double the cost and still not even be close to going overkill.

4) Nothing that will keep it from working, no.

5) You can't. You can save a little on motherboard, RAM, and PSU, but that's the extent of it, unless you want to skimp on the monitor (which, for you purpose, is somewhat related to performance). Total savings would be $80 or less, most likely. Everything else will very much impact performance.

You might end up best off with a Dell or Lenovo Outlet machine, given that you're trying to make a Windows workstation machine for ~$650 ($900 w/ monitor).

For example, you can get an XPS 8500 for <$700 w/ an i7-3770 w/ 16GB RAM, and a GT 640 (link), which would make for an ideal budget photography workstation (it should normally cost around $1000). The coupon codes I found were expired, but you are simply not going to build a comparable machine for anywhere near that kind of money, even without additional savings. No SSD, but you can do that later (just make recovery discs ASAP, when you get the PC).

 

[skalirajan]

Hi
Thank you for reply
Do you mean to say i can go for dell built in pc instead of building one like the above?
Is it ok to go for i7 3770 instead of 4770?
Whether this pc i can use for minimum 5 years?

 

[Cerb]

As long as you're in the U.S., yes. Whether it's good for at least 5 years is all on you. Most PCs, if treated well, will last 5-10 years.

Will it be fast enough? Will it have enough RAM (max is 32GB, I'm pretty sure)? Will it have all the right connectors? Will you be able to fit in enough cards for them if it doesn't? Those and other questions aren't simple yes or no ones, when trying to look into the future. There's also always a risk of various types of failure, though they tend to be small, typically (backup, backup, backup!).

 

[ggadrian]

If it's for photography I think that you should go with at least 16GB of RAM, every time I work with photoshop I use all my RAM. Also, if you stick with 8GB (and I think that that woulb be and error) you should buy 2x4GB instead os 1x8GB, you're gonna move tons of data in the RAM so you'll want the extra bandwidth.

If you work with large projects maybe you should also add a scratch disk and a discrete GPU.

 

[skalirajan]

Hi

I am from Not from US and from india.
Whether my mobo selection is ok?
Apart from mobo i think all others are pretty much same

 

[skalirajan]

Hi
Thank you
Good suggestion, but i thought of adding it latter

Do you have any suggestion on mobo

 

[bononos]

Since you are in a foreign country, you have to let the forum know what mb you can get your hands on.
You can save money by getting a 400-500W psu instead.

 

[Lean L]

NVM misread.

 

[mfenn]

Hi

I am from Not from US and from india.
Whether my mobo selection is ok?
Apart from mobo i think all others are pretty much same

Please update your post to include the answers to these questions. Be sure to use your native currency when giving your budget.

Options for building are completely different in different countries, for example Newegg combos and Dell outlet deals don't apply to India, not to mention overall differences in pricing.

 

[skalirajan]

Hi all

Just to answer the questions


PLEASE when you POST threads asking for input on system builds tell us...

1. What YOUR PC will be used for. That means what types of tasks you'll be performing.
Mainly for photoshop, lightroom, and photo editing softwares

2. What YOUR budget is. A price range is acceptable as long as it's not more than a 20% spread
60,000 indian rupee, 1$=65 inr

3. What country YOU will be buying YOUR parts from.
India ,

4. IF you're buying parts OUTSIDE the US, please post a link to the vendor you'll be buying from.
We can't be expected to scour the internet on your behalf, chasing down deals in your specific country... Again, help us, help YOU.

www.flipkart.com, www.snapdeAl.com



5. IF YOU have a brand preference. That means, are you an Intel-Fanboy, AMD-Fanboy, ATI-Fanboy, nVidia-Fanboy, Seagate-Fanboy, WD-Fanboy, etc.


Processor intel

6. If YOU intend on using any of YOUR current parts, and if so, what those parts are.
Nil
7. IF YOU plan on overclocking or run the system at default speeds.
No overclocking as of now

8. What resolution, not monitor size, will you be using?
No idea but looking dell 2240L

9. WHEN do you plan to build it?
In 2 weeks
Note that it is usually not cost or time effective to choose your build more than a month before you actually plan to be using it.

X. Do you need to purchase any software to go with the system, such as Windows or Blu Ray playback software?
Windows 7

Below is my list
http://pcpartpicker.com/b/FYX

I have selected i7 4th generation since its latest or am i taking wrong decision
Need suggestion on case and psu as i am not sure how to select tht


Latter on planning to add graphics card and another 8 gb of ram may be in another 6 months

Thanks in advance

 

[mfenn]

That build looks reasonable, but who knows how the parts or prices will translate to what is available in India? Unless you can get your parts from the US directly, it does not make much sense to price things out using US sites.

i5 4570 Rs. 14.4k
MSI B85M-G43 Rs. 5.7k
Kingston DDR3 1600 8GB Rs. 4.7k
Sandisk 840 120GB Rs 7.3k
WD Blue 1TB Rs 4.4k
Corsair VS450 Rs. 2.4k
Cooler Master N300 Rs 3.7k
Windows 7 HP 64-bit Rs. 8.3k
Dell S2240L Rs 9.1k
Total: Rs. 60k

You could fit an i7 into the budget, but you'd have to drop the SSD in order to do so. I would advise against that because reducing random I/O performance by 10 times to get 1.3 times the CPU performance (generous estimate) is not a good trade.

i7 4770 Rs. 22.0k

 

[skalirajan]

Thanks for your reply
If i stretch a budget little bit say 70,000Rs (1100US$) is that OK to go with i7 and Ausus H87 Pro mobo?
My main concern is how far ill get support for i5 as its getting old
Ill try to see if i can use existing old monitor and replace later next year with new one

 

[mfenn]

The 4570 is the exact same age as the 4770, they'll both be supported for a very long time.

You certainly could fit in the i7 if you were willing to spend more, but I wouldn't also buy a fancier motherboard. The rest of the money would be better spent on upgrading the RAM to 16GB.

 

[Cerb]

An H87 might be OK if you want to use RAID 0, but I really don't think your budget warrants it, when there's so much else being cut, already.

RAM (16GB), GPU (GT 640?), then a bigger&faster SSD (240+GB MLC), a faster CPU (i7), then even more RAM (32GB), would be the things to spend more on, before a fancy mobo, when the prices matter.

IoW, if you stretched your budget to 75kINR, another 8GB of RAM, and a ~250GB Neutron or 840 Pro, or a lower-end video card, would still be better places to spend the money, at that point.

 

[skalirajan]

Hi All

Thank you for your reply
but when i was going through Mobo for i7 4770 , i was able to find this one bit ok for this CPU
Is there any other mobo which is cheaper than h87 which fits into i7 4770?
Definitely i am planning to add another 8 GB ram next year around Q1 along with graphics card

Thanks

 

[Cerb]

AFAIK, every LGA1150 motherboard you will find, that uses a non-C-series chipset, will support the Core i7-4770.

For instance, here's mfenn's pick's CPU support list:
http://us.msi.com/product/mb/B85M-G43.html#/?div=CPUSupport

 

[skalirajan]

Hi

I have gone through this mobo
For me both mobo looks same
Anything different techinically apart from ports
And also mini atx means all cabinets, psu everything changes correct

Do you suggest any good build which uses i7 4770 and msi mobo along with cabinets etc
Thanks in advance

 

[mfenn]

Do you suggest any good build which uses i7 4770 and msi mobo along with cabinets etc
Thanks in advance

What's wrong with the options I posted above?

 

[skalirajan]

Hi mfenn
Sorry i was confused whether i can use i7 4770 with this mobo and i checked it can be used

Thank you

 

[sm625]

I would be surprised if even 30% of professional photographer workstations even had Core i series processors. Many of them are still running dual cores and even (ack) Pentium 4's. All you need is pixels. Pixels pixels pixels.

 

[Cerb]

Yup.

When you run low on RAM, more RAM would help. When there's no more RAM to be had, or when opening files, an SSD will help. With a budget equivalent to $1500-2000 (USD) (120k or more INR?), an i7 costs little, and there's plenty of room to also get plenty of RAM, and also get a bigger SSD. Going from an i3 to an i5 should be worth it, if the budget can fit it. An i7 really needs the budget to be large enough that there's not much else that needs spending on. The price v. performance just doesn't favor it, with a tight budget.

 

[skalirajan]

Hi

I am going forward with i5 4570 processor
And if i am correct i can connect SSD to MSI b85M G43

If i use SSD apart from boot time(which i am ok still my PC is booting) will i get any benefit in running my photoshop or lightroom

Thanks in Advance

 

[mfenn]

Hi

I am going forward with i5 4570 processor
And if i am correct i can connect SSD to MSI b85M G43

If i use SSD apart from boot time(which i am ok still my PC is booting) will i get any benefit in running my photoshop or lightroom

Thanks in Advance

Yes, you can use an SSD with the MSI B85M-G43. You'll certainly want to install the OS, Adobe Suite, and your Lightroom Catalogs on the SSD. That'll keep the programs responsive even if you have to put the actual images on an HDD for space reasons.

 

[skalirajan]

Hi
I read in one forum that n300 cabinet may not suit for msi mobo as thier sata and usb are angelled
Is tht correct?do you suggest any other cabinet?
Whether 450w is enough as i am planning to add one graphics card next year or do i need to go for 600w