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Buh bye Xbox360

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Originally posted by: Aikouka
Originally posted by: Zolty
OK I have your solution, buy a core system from walmart, swap the case (that has the serial number on it) and return the broken one. Profit?!?!
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You will forever muss up how your XBOX Live Arcade games and other content is registered if you do that. It'd be the same if you replaced your XBOX with an elite or something... you have to log into XBL just to use these in that case since you must either a) play them on the xbox they were bought on b) be logged into the XBL account that owns them.
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umm ... no it wouldnt.

you would still have your original hard drive.
 
Originally posted by: Zolty
OK I have your solution, buy a core system from walmart, swap the case (that has the serial number on it) and return the broken one. Profit?!?!
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Or you could be ethical and not break the law while fraudulently recouping your losses from Walmart.
 
Originally posted by: Zolty
OK I have your solution, buy a core system from walmart, swap the case (that has the serial number on it) and return the broken one. Profit?!?!
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first this is illegal and unethical and second, the issues are still there. ms is not changing the design of items so the same isues will be present on your new 360.
 
Originally posted by: BD2003
Originally posted by: mugs
It annoys me to no end that Microsoft hasn't fixed the apparent design flaw that causes this, and is still selling them. :thumbsdown:
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Yep...I personally wont buy one until they do. You just cant sell a product that has a near 100% failure rate. (mine died after 2.5 months...yay for target 90 day return policy)
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That's what I'm waiting for too... I want some confidence that it'll last 5 years, not 1 year.
 
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Frets on Fire for the PC should hold you over. You can use the Xbox360 guitar on it too...
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Never heard of Frets on Fire so I checked it out on Wikipedia and :Q. That is awesome! Is it any good?
 
game console always breaks the day after warranty expires. warranty period is getting shorter and shorter as well. When will they start selling console brand new but sold "AS- IS"?
 
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Frets on Fire for the PC should hold you over. You can use the Xbox360 guitar on it too...
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Never heard of Frets on Fire so I checked it out on Wikipedia and :Q. That is awesome! Is it any good?
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I just checked it the wiki too. I gotta download this game!
 
What was the production date?

I heard '06 xboxs were ok while every '05 xbox is going to get the rings at some point or another.
 
It's too bad they feel it necessary to make it so hard to take the thing apart. I would love to move mine to a HTPC case with good cooling. At the very least I would like to add a small fan WITHOUT voiding my warranty.

I just don't understand the console makers, imagine if DELL made their PC's near impossible to open (easily) and put a "void if opened" sticker on them.
 
Also, I would invest in the intercooler that attaches to the back of the xbox.

My 360 got the point where it was burning hot to the touch when I first got it. Now with the intercooler, touching the top of the xbox it feels like room temp. If i stick my hand behind the intercooler, I am amazed how hot the air is coming out of the back of the xbox.
 
Originally posted by: joshsquall
You can't say anything bad about the 360. It isn't the PS3! 🙁
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What are you talking about? 😕 Are you one of those people who complain about people hating Sony/PS3 for no reason, even though they have very good reasons? People have been complaining about this problem and criticizing Microsoft for it for a year. And people criticize Nintendo for their faults all the time! (Number one problem right not - no online play)

If you're going to whine about people criticizing Sony, at least do it in a thread where people are criticizing Sony. :thumbsdown:
 
My 360 had the Red Ring of Death as well. It was still under warranty and they sent me a replacement unit.

The optical drive is loud as hell when it's spinning, but I don't remember if that's normal or not. Plus, it hasn't caused any damage to my games, so it's not really a problem.
 
Originally posted by: Matt2
What was the production date?

I heard '06 xboxs were ok while every '05 xbox is going to get the rings at some point or another.
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the production date doesn't matter as i haver seen 360s from launch up until just a few months ago fail from this issue. having a 06 360 box doesn't mean anything other than you may have a newer version of the dvd rom. that is about the only major change ms has made to the 360s is the optical drive - there are 6 versions out, from tsst, hitachi and benq. 4 are able to be modified via firmware and 2 arent 🙁 same goes for the new elites - they will too fail due to the heatsink issues.

the friend of mine that had his die and then was fixed with the xbracket mod also had to lap the heatsink quite a bit as it was not flat at all (you could see it was not flat with the naked eye, not even needing a flat surface to compare it to) and was finished from the manf with what looked like ~200grit sandpaper. and his was 4/06 model.
 
Originally posted by: Matt2
Also, I would invest in the intercooler that attaches to the back of the xbox.

My 360 got the point where it was burning hot to the touch when I first got it. Now with the intercooler, touching the top of the xbox it feels like room temp. If i stick my hand behind the intercooler, I am amazed how hot the air is coming out of the back of the xbox.
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from what i have read, the intercooler really doesn't help much when compared to the mods where you take the 360 apart. sadly any mod you do even changing to a different case you void the warranty even if you don't do anything else to the unit - what a joke.

my theory is that the warranty is really not good because if mine dies, they are going to send me out another one that is refurbished with the same design flaw that i already have. ms will probably never admit to a design issue because i would assume then they would need to do a recall on 11M units - not a cheap endeavor, but i do not understand why there hasn't been a class action against this, probably because ms extended the warranty.
 
Originally posted by: MustISO
It's too bad they feel it necessary to make it so hard to take the thing apart. I would love to move mine to a HTPC case with good cooling. At the very least I would like to add a small fan WITHOUT voiding my warranty.

I just don't understand the console makers, imagine if DELL made their PC's near impossible to open (easily) and put a "void if opened" sticker on them.
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the problem is there is no room over the gpu heatsink to add a fan as the rom is directly above it. the cpu heatsink is ok, just the bracket, but the gpu heatsink is a joke along with the bad bracket.

actually the rom is part of the airflow guidance over the gpu, that is why your games get so freakin' hot - all that heat goes right into the rom... 🙁 :thumbsdown:
 
Originally posted by: bigrash
Originally posted by: clamum
Originally posted by: TuxDave
Frets on Fire for the PC should hold you over. You can use the Xbox360 guitar on it too...
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Never heard of Frets on Fire so I checked it out on Wikipedia and :Q. That is awesome! Is it any good?
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I just checked it the wiki too. I gotta download this game!
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I was jazzed when I read about it, but I didn't have fun, I didn't think how the PS2/Xbox ones use multitracking (or something similar) so when you miss a note it doesn't play it. FOF can't do that, don't see how any program can do that with mp3 files. Takes away from the fun level when it plays the notes regardless of it you hit them or not.
 
Originally posted by: rml
game console always breaks the day after warranty expires. warranty period is getting shorter and shorter as well. When will they start selling console brand new but sold "AS- IS"?
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Actually, Microsoft did right by the 360 by extending the warranty. It was originally 90 days, but all these consoles started breaking. After about 6-8 months, they announced that any consoles purchased before January of 06 would have their warranties extended to a year, and anybody that paid for service would get a full refund.

Sounds great, right? Then early this year, they extended ALL 360 warranties to a year, started paying for shipping, and even extends the warranty even further for the units they fix.

They still never admitted to the problem of all these 360's breaking (well, not completely), but all of us know the reasons of extending the warranty. Needless to say, Microsoft is doing the right thing for it's customers for the most part.
 
Originally posted by: KLin
I just got the error code and it comes back as 0022 - GPU error/overheating


http://forums.xbox-scene.com/lofiversion/index.php/t484726.html

I followed the directions for the secondary error.
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As others suggest, if it's under warranty, ship it back to M$. Let them waste their time and money rather than wasting yours. If warranty is void, try the 12V fan mod, the X-clamp replacement mod, and the thermal paste replacement.
 
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