Bugatti Vs. McLaren F1

[DivideBYZero]

Great, but I want numbers. The F1 had the Veyron off the line. It was like the Bugatti had to bring up it's anchor. I wan to know how fast they were going when the BV passed the F1.

I need more info!

 

[thescreensavers]

fuck, I want to see what happens, I just read your first few words and stopped. BTW from what I saw in the preview is what you said. the Veyron has 4 turbos that need to spool so yea.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

I think the Bugatti reels the McLaren in around the 160-170 MPH mark.

Essentially when all that horse power just slams the air out of the way...

Edit: The show has ended, I'm sure it will be on youtube or make it into wikipedia...

 

[thescreensavers]

Well I just saw it. It was quite fun. But its just like Veyron vs M3 more or less.

 

[MBrown]

After watching the video, if I had to choose between which one I could own, I would get the Mclaren. A much newer car with 1000hp and it didnt catch the old Mclaren until way into the race. And the McLaren would be much more fun to drive than the Veyron.

 

[thescreensavers]

Originally posted by: MBrown
After watching the video, if I had to choose between which one I could own, I would get the Mclaren. A much newer car with 1000hp and it didnt catch the old Mclaren until way into the race. And the McLaren would be much more fun to drive than the Veyron.

I totally agree.

I also wonder what the Veyrons true 0-60 is internet says 2.8sec but theirs no way its that fast. The McLaren 2.9-3.3 sec depending were you look.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: thescreensavers

Originally posted by: MBrown
After watching the video, if I had to choose between which one I could own, I would get the Mclaren. A much newer car with 1000hp and it didnt catch the old Mclaren until way into the race. And the McLaren would be much more fun to drive than the Veyron.

I totally agree.

I also wonder what the Veyrons true 0-60 is internet says 2.8sec but theirs no way its that fast. The McLaren 2.9-3.3 sec depending were you look.

Autocar puts the Veryons 0-60 at 2.46 seconds.

I skimmed and mistook the McLaren time for the Veryon's.

 

[thescreensavers]

Originally posted by: PlasmaBomb

Originally posted by: thescreensavers

Originally posted by: MBrown
After watching the video, if I had to choose between which one I could own, I would get the Mclaren. A much newer car with 1000hp and it didnt catch the old Mclaren until way into the race. And the McLaren would be much more fun to drive than the Veyron.

I totally agree.

I also wonder what the Veyrons true 0-60 is internet says 2.8sec but theirs no way its that fast. The McLaren 2.9-3.3 sec depending were you look.

Autocar puts the Veryons 0-60 at 3.2 seconds (wikilink).

so according to 0-60s they should be dead even right? at least for the beginning

 

[BW86]

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Had no idea the Mclaren was that fast.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

I was pleasantly surprised by the results. I was kind of dreading watching this, actually, because I love the McLaren and have never really fully warmed up to the Veyron. I figured this would be a drubbing. It's good they had the Stig behind the wheel of the McLaren, since I'm sure it's trickier to launch than the Veyron.

 

[StageLeft]

Thanks for link. I assumed 1000 HP plus awd would have made it a launch king. It doesn't even have three seats like the mcclaren.

 

[Riverhound777]

For as old as the McLaren is, that is amazing.

Although I would feel much safer driving the Veyron.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Thanks for link. I assumed 1000 HP plus awd would have made it a launch king. It doesn't even have three seats like the mcclaren.

AWD a launch king??? Since when? :Q

 

[Insomniator]

Wow

but yeah, one would think 15 years and 1 million dollars would get you more than a 'slow' launch and a tenth of a second or so off the total...

 

[A5]

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Wow

but yeah, one would think 15 years and 1 million dollars would get you more than a 'slow' launch and a tenth of a second or so off the total...

You also have to account for the difference in drivers. As often as Hammond has done launches of various cars, he's never going to match a (suspected) pro driver such as The Stig.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

The Bugatti also has a much higher cd and frontal area than the McLaren (cd Bugatti 0.41 vs F1 0.32, with a frontal area of 22.3 sq ft vs 19.3) if they had run it in lowered mode the Veryon would have been faster still...

 

[MBrown]

Originally posted by: A5

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Wow

but yeah, one would think 15 years and 1 million dollars would get you more than a 'slow' launch and a tenth of a second or so off the total...

You also have to account for the difference in drivers. As often as Hammond has done launches of various cars, he's never going to match a (suspected) pro driver such as The Stig.

It shouldn't be that hard to launch the Veyron. Isn't it pretty much an automatic?

 

[thescreensavers]

Originally posted by: MBrown

Originally posted by: A5

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Wow

but yeah, one would think 15 years and 1 million dollars would get you more than a 'slow' launch and a tenth of a second or so off the total...

You also have to account for the difference in drivers. As often as Hammond has done launches of various cars, he's never going to match a (suspected) pro driver such as The Stig.

It shouldn't be that hard to launch the Veyron. Isn't it pretty much an automatic?

pretty much it has the audi quick change gear thing what ever its called. DSG or something like that.

 

[Arkaign]

Something was seriously awry with this test, every professional test I've seen of the Veyron puts the 0-60 in the sub-3-second range.

Road and Track got a 2.6 out of it, with the quarter falling in 10.2 @ 142.9mph. http://www.roadandtrack.com/ar..._id=34&article_id=6262

Testing of the McLaren F1 always put the 1/4 time at 11+, with figures ranging from 11.1 to 11.6.

Judging from this, it's pretty obvious something went wrong with the test, or they sandbagged the Veyron. Probably the former.

Just looking at the 0-60 numbers and 1/4 numbers, there's no way in hell the race should have been so close here. Perhaps not activating the lowering mechanism limits power output or throttle response somewhat.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: MBrown

Originally posted by: A5

Originally posted by: Insomniator
Wow

but yeah, one would think 15 years and 1 million dollars would get you more than a 'slow' launch and a tenth of a second or so off the total...

You also have to account for the difference in drivers. As often as Hammond has done launches of various cars, he's never going to match a (suspected) pro driver such as The Stig.

It shouldn't be that hard to launch the Veyron. Isn't it pretty much an automatic?

Yup... and you can see the tail lights flashing as it sits there. Which I presume is launch mode?

 

[Dman877]

Does the V have launch control? To get those turbo's in action for a super low 0-60, you'd have to launch the thing pretty high up, like 4 - 5k I would think. Maybe the V driver just floored it at go?

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Originally posted by: Dman877
Does the V have launch control? To get those turbo's in action for a super low 0-60, you'd have to launch the thing pretty high up, like 4 - 5k I would think. Maybe the V driver just floored it at go?

A launch control facility can be employed by pressing a button on the centre console, applying the footbrake, flooring the throttle and then slipping off the brake.

http://www.qv500.com/bugattiveyronp4.php

 

[Apex]

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Something was seriously awry with this test, every professional test I've seen of the Veyron puts the 0-60 in the sub-3-second range.

Road and Track got a 2.6 out of it, with the quarter falling in 10.2 @ 142.9mph. http://www.roadandtrack.com/ar..._id=34&article_id=6262

Testing of the McLaren F1 always put the 1/4 time at 11+, with figures ranging from 11.1 to 11.6.

Judging from this, it's pretty obvious something went wrong with the test, or they sandbagged the Veyron. Probably the former.

Just looking at the 0-60 numbers and 1/4 numbers, there's no way in hell the race should have been so close here. Perhaps not activating the lowering mechanism limits power output or throttle response somewhat.

Agreed. There's really no way, given a competent, same-time launch of both, the Veyron should be behind to 60.

 

[Arkaign]

Originally posted by: Apex

Originally posted by: Arkaign
Something was seriously awry with this test, every professional test I've seen of the Veyron puts the 0-60 in the sub-3-second range.

Road and Track got a 2.6 out of it, with the quarter falling in 10.2 @ 142.9mph. http://www.roadandtrack.com/ar..._id=34&article_id=6262

Testing of the McLaren F1 always put the 1/4 time at 11+, with figures ranging from 11.1 to 11.6.

Judging from this, it's pretty obvious something went wrong with the test, or they sandbagged the Veyron. Probably the former.

Just looking at the 0-60 numbers and 1/4 numbers, there's no way in hell the race should have been so close here. Perhaps not activating the lowering mechanism limits power output or throttle response somewhat.

Agreed. There's really no way, given a competent, same-time launch of both, the Veyron should be behind to 60.

Yep. I love both cars, particularly the F1, just a beautiful car. But I had to point out the obvious, that test after test by professionals has shown a huge gap in performance that just wasn't seen in the TG race.

 

[PlasmaBomb]

Doesn't sound like Hammond gave it the beans off the line...