Buffalo Bills cheerleaders sue over pay - squad disbanded

dmcowen674

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http://www.foxnews.com/sports/2014/04/22/buffalo-bills-cheerleaders-sue-over-pay/

Buffalo Bills cheerleaders sue over pay



Five former Buffalo Bills cheerleaders on Tuesday sued the team over a pay system they say had them working hundreds of hours for free at games and at mandatory public appearances at which they were subjected to groping and sexual comments, and one said they had to take a jiggle test so their boss could see how firm their bodies were.


The state Supreme Court lawsuit is the third filed this year against a National Football League team by cheerleaders. The Oakland Raiders and Cincinnati Bengals also have pending wage battles.

The case against the Bills says its cheerleaders, the Buffalo Jills, are wrongly classified as independent contractors and are subjected to policies that violate the state's $8 per hour minimum wage law and other workplace rules.

The Bills' cheerleaders aren't paid for games or practices and have to make 20-35 appearances, most of which are unpaid, at community and charity events each season, the lawsuit said.

On top of that, they have to pay $650 for their uniforms and are not reimbursed for travel or other expenses, the cheerleaders said.

Alyssa U. estimated she was paid a total of $420 during the 2012-13 football season. Another cheerleader, Maria P., said she received $105.

Update 4-24-2014

No more Buffalo Bills Cheerleading squad

https://sports.yahoo.com/news/buffalo-bills-cheerleaders-halt-season-202235251--nfl.html

Buffalo Bills cheerleaders suspend operations



According to the Buffalo Jills Alumni website, the squad was formed in 1967, eight years after the Bills were established as founding members of the American Football League. In 1986, the Bills relinquished managing the cheerleaders to private companies.


Lawyer Frank Dolce, who represents the five cheerleaders, said the decision to suspend operations won't affect his case because it addresses past complaints.


''A decision to disband the Jills as an entity is a tremendous mistake for community spirit,'' Dolce said. ''We do not feel bad that Stejon Productions has ceased operations. We think that's a good thing. We just hope the Bills don't trivialize the Jills because of the poor management of them.''
 
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Greenman

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Aren't these women actually volunteers? Regardless, they know going in that it doesn't pay squat, they should have quit when they decided the deal stunk. With that said, I don't like anything about pro football, so if the cheerleaders were awarded a few billion each it wouldn't bother me at all. The league would just increase ticket prices a couple hundred each and be flush in one season.
 

Nebor

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They're volunteers, and most of them meet their wealthy husbands (players, owners, supporters, etc.) while doing a stint as a pro-cheerleader.
 

sandorski

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They should be Paid, but if they knew they were not being paid before starting, why do it?
 

DucatiMonster696

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They should be Paid, but if they knew they were not being paid before starting, why do it?

As was said above. They get into it for cheap public media exposure and I might also add the bonus of social networking with people within the NFL, MSM and football fans who might also have their own successful ventures going that can parlayed into benefiting them via new employment options or business opportunities. And lastly yes some of them probably do go into such gigs to meet and land a NFL star. Of course once you start imposing that these women be paid for what amounts to a volunteer position you can expect such positions eventually go the way of the dodo bird in due time or at the very least be dramatically scaled down.
 

trenchfoot

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Jiggle test should be mandatory for all females in the workplace

The elbow test should also be mandatory: Elbows get extended straight outward and the applicant then walks toward the nearest wall. If their elbows touches the wall first "before any other upper body part" they are disqualified.

Just kidding, of course.:)
 

lOl_lol_lOl

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Someone please show us the testing methodology employed in the 'Jiggle Test'.

Are Breasts and Bottoms tested using a single test? Are any physical tools utilized in determining their density and elasticity?
 

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Also, inb4 someone mentions 'women sell themselves short in the workplace' and court proceedings from here on become a national feminist issue.
 

PokerGuy

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They knew up front what the conditions were, and now they whine about them? They could have easily just walked away if they didn't like how things went.

Issue not found.
 

nehalem256

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I think the bigger outrage should be that there isn't an equal number of male cheerleaders.

Perhaps it is time to implement some kind of gender based quota system ;)
 

spacejamz

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They knew up front what the conditions were, and now they whine about them? They could have easily just walked away if they didn't like how things went.

Issue not found.

But that doesn't conform to the new entitlement culture we have...
 

Genx87

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Im torn on this one. They knew going in the pay was crap ect. But at the same time the NFL is one giant public money sucking organization. So part of me wants them to get smacked down out of spite.
 

JManInPhoenix

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I dont have a problem with that. ESPN is a privately run company. If they want to pay a ridiculous fee to air the game. That is there decision. I am talking about all the public stadiums billionaires are built using taxpayers money. Not to mention all the infrastructure built just for their teams. Which benefit them greatly.

Agreed. Most sports teams & leagues are flush with cash and should pay for their own venues, not taxpayers.
 

fleshconsumed

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IMO the independent contractor classification is there purely to screw them over. It's the same kind of tactic that classifies regular workers as managers so that companies can get out of paying them overtime.

The "they knew what they were signing up for" arguments are indefensible. Same can be said about child labor at the turn of the century in US - those kids should have known what they were signing up for before crying foul about losing a limb at the ripe age of 15. We have labor laws for a reason. Wrongly classifying those cheerleaders as independent contractors is just a way to weasel out of following those laws. Those cheerleaders should be paid at least minimum wage and reimbursed for the uniforms and travel. That is the bare minimum that they should be paid by law. Anything more is up to them to negotiate.
 
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nehalem256

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IMO the independent contractor classification is there purely to screw them over. It's the same kind of tactic that classifies regular workers as managers so that companies can get out of paying them overtime.

The "they knew what they were signing up for" arguments are indefensible. Same can be said about child labor at the turn of the century in US - those kids should have known what they were signing up for before crying foul about losing a limb at the ripe age of 15. We have labor laws for a reason. Wrongly classifying those cheerleaders as independent contractors is just a way to weasel out of following those laws. Those cheerleaders should be paid at least minimum wage and reimbursed for the uniforms and travel. That is the bare minimum that they should be paid by law. Anything more is up to them to negotiate.

So you are comparing grown women to children :D
 

fleshconsumed

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So you are comparing grown women to children :D

I know you're grasping at straws.

So let's change children to "these grown men should have known that long term exposure to coal dust is deadly - tough luck", or "those NFL players should have known that continuous concussions are not good for you - tough luck", or "those grown women at the factories should have known there are no fire sprinklers in case of a fire - tough luck".

Because this is what you're arguing for right now.