Budget of $250 for CPU/mobo/RAM?

[v8envy]

My 2c: two gigabyte P35 DS3Ls, one with a Xeon 3210 at 3ghz which has been up 24x7 since February, one with a E2180 at 3.2 ghz which gets daily desktop gaming use. 0 problems with either one.

I couldn't be happier with that $90 board. I don't ask them to perform like a $250 extreme overclocker parts, and they haven't let me down.

 

[Noya]

The 1283 is very tall though. If you have a small case, or a case with a fan on the door, you need to measure before you buy. I have an 80mm fan on my door, but I am lucky in that it is lower than a lot of cases. If my fan was set ~1/8" higher, the case door would be able to close due to the S1283. My case is exactly 8" wide and the top of the S1283 is about 1/2 - 3/4" from the door.

If it will not fit, you don't need that much cooling, or just want to spend a little less, look at the HDT-S963. It $25 (+$8 shipping) at newegg, but comes with a $10 rebate and is light enough @ 410g that a bracket is not necessary simply because of the weight. It still performs very well, and is about the best 90mm cooler available.

I have this nappy looking case (though it was only $36 w/free shipping when I bought it)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16811147033
It's fairly large, almost 8" wide. I've removed the DVD/front door, the fan filter and also cut away the "checkerboard" metal behind the intake fan. I think it's wide enough for the S1283...

Also, do you guys think the Corsair 450vx (450w, 33amp) is enough for:
OC'd e7200
2gb or 4gb DDR2 800 (not sure on the amount yet)
3x 7200rpm sata HDD's
2x sata DVD/RW
ATi 4850
2x120mm fans and the s1283?

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Originally posted by: Noya

I have this nappy looking case (though it was only $36 w/free shipping when I bought it)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16811147033
It's fairly large, almost 8" wide. I've removed the DVD/front door, the fan filter and also cut away the "checkerboard" metal behind the intake fan. I think it's wide enough for the S1283...

Also, do you guys think the Corsair 450vx (450w, 33amp) is enough for:
OC'd e7200
2gb or 4gb DDR2 800 (not sure on the amount yet)
3x 7200rpm sata HDD's
2x sata DVD/RW
ATi 4850
2x120mm fans and the s1283?

Yes, the Corsair 450vx should handle all of that with no problems. Your fans are only going to consume 2-3W apiece, and hard drives consume about 10W (avg) apiece. On reviews I've seen for the Radeon HD4850, whole systems only seem to use about (on avg) 250W total under full 3D load. So in the worst case scenario, your system may draw up to 300W, well below the rated power usage of your unit.

 

[Ike0069]

I too agree that the Corsair 450vx is plenty to run that system. Your specs are basically the same as mine except that I have 500W PSU, and it's way more than enough for my system.

As for the S1283, it should fit just fine as long as the case is at least 7.5" wide and you have nothing attached to the case door.

 

[Mr Fox]

Originally posted by: Noya

The 1283 is very tall though. If you have a small case, or a case with a fan on the door, you need to measure before you buy. I have an 80mm fan on my door, but I am lucky in that it is lower than a lot of cases. If my fan was set ~1/8" higher, the case door would be able to close due to the S1283. My case is exactly 8" wide and the top of the S1283 is about 1/2 - 3/4" from the door.

If it will not fit, you don't need that much cooling, or just want to spend a little less, look at the HDT-S963. It $25 (+$8 shipping) at newegg, but comes with a $10 rebate and is light enough @ 410g that a bracket is not necessary simply because of the weight. It still performs very well, and is about the best 90mm cooler available.

I have this nappy looking case (though it was only $36 w/free shipping when I bought it)
http://www.newegg.com/Product/...x?Item=N82E16811147033
It's fairly large, almost 8" wide. I've removed the DVD/front door, the fan filter and also cut away the "checkerboard" metal behind the intake fan. I think it's wide enough for the S1283...

Also, do you guys think the Corsair 450vx (450w, 33amp) is enough for:
OC'd e7200
2gb or 4gb DDR2 800 (not sure on the amount yet)
3x 7200rpm sata HDD's
2x sata DVD/RW
ATi 4850
2x120mm fans and the s1283?

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[quadomatic]

For budget OC'ing I'd recommend the D3SL Gigabyte board, or the Abit IP35-E.

 

[z1ggy]

My gigabyte was $99 and I oc'ed my e6750 up to 3.4ghz no prob. what so ever...And I do advise you get something like a zalman HSF to cool the cpu with.

 

[rogue1979]

Biostar G31-M7 TE $46
2 x 1GB DDR800 $40
e5200 $84

$170 + shipping ($10-12)

320 fsb 4.0GHz 3MB L2 cache. It doesn't get any cheaper than that.
e5200 should be showing up any day now.

You may have to "paint the 1066fsb mod". No big deal, two minutes or less to connect two dots on the cpu. Motherboard has native 1600MHz fsb support, but you won't even need that with a 12.5X multiplier. It has cpu voltage controls, ram dividers, memory timings and a pci-e lock. Doesn't have ram voltage, but all of the generic DDR800 I have used run 800MHz easily with tight timings at stock voltage.

I wouldn't spend I penny more on any C2D system, cuz when nehalem arrives it will be
second class.

 

[blizzisu]

I am running the ASUS P5Q Pro with the e7200. Unfortunately my chip has a FSB wall around 370 mhz. However, with my Ultra 120 heatsink with low db fan I can run the e7200 at 3.16 ghz (9.5 x 333) rock solid with stock voltage. You could even do this with the retail heatsink.

 

[nyker96]

I have a IP35-E and a friend uses a DS3L (P35), they seem to work and OC just fine. Max FSB I ran is about 450. I think it can go higher still. Neither will disappoint you.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: nerp
I paid $59 for my IP35-E. Doubt it's going to die anytime soon.

+1

I have two ip35-e mobos. one has a q6600 at 3.5 24/7 stable, the other has a q9450 at 3.28. I've had that one as high as 3.4 before the temps on the pathetic zalman cooler scared me away from 24/7 usage at that speed, but I did run it there for about 2 mos so I'm fairly confident that it was stable. All of my systems run DC 24/7, too, so they've had plenty of opportunity to crap out. Don't get me wrong, I would prefer a $150 mobo for quad oc'ing, but there are plenty of p35 options for good dual-core overclocking in the $75 range these days.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: Markfw900
I have bought many open box. Sometimes they look new, other times then are slightly damaged, and don't come with accessories. But they have always worked for me.

my 2nd ip 35 e (which has the q6600 in it btw) was an open box. It came as a "brand new" box but with no accessories at all. I also built an e6600 rig with an open box msi 975x mobo that is still perfectly fine for my cousin. Just be aware that you might need to purchase auxillary items separately.

 

[bryanW1995]

Originally posted by: z1ggy
My gigabyte was $99 and I oc'ed my e6750 up to 3.4ghz no prob. what so ever...And I do advise you get something like a zalman HSF to cool the cpu with.

ok, I know that I've already thrown in two opinions here, but PLEASE DON'T TELL ANYBODY EVER AGAIN TO BUY A ZALMAN CPU HSF. Zalman's suck. They look cool, but they don't COOL very well at all. I am running my q9450 350 mhz below its happy place b/c I have a zalman on it. a zalman costs about the same as a tuniq or s1284. zalman's are overhyped, do research on cpu coolers before blindly recommending something like this to somebody who might make a foolish purchase decision based upon your foolish advice.

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: Ike0069
There are several sub $100 P35 boards that will OC nicely.
Here is one:

An E7200 will go to 3.8GHz (9.5x400) on DDR800 RAM. The only problem is that you will definitely need an aftermarket HSF to get any real OC at all, and good one to push 3.8.

You might look at dropping down to an E2180 if your budget cannot stretch for the 7200 + HSF.

same mobo cheaper:

http://www.ewiz.com/detail.php...3cda8efa17924ff8e3ce79

 

[Tempered81]

Originally posted by: nerp
I paid $59 for my IP35-E. Doubt it's going to die anytime soon.

same here


I also don't recommend spending a fortune on a good intel chipset mobo, unless you need crossfire, firewire, or something particular. $50 to $80 open box deals for a mobo worked just fine for me in the past. For some reason i think open box mobos generally come from noobs building pc's, and that the mobos aren't actually DOA, just returned in working condition. Also, don't gang up on aberforth, dude makes plenty of worthwhile contributions.

 

[Ksyder]

I picked up an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro for next to nothing and hope to use it in my next build. Does anyone have or have used this cooler? I always thought Zalmans were "cool" in the past but people here seem to not be too impressed with them. A friend of mine has an AMD X2 6000+ /Nforce 570 sli setup and he's always bragging that his system is faster since I got left behind with Socket 939. What would be a comparable CPU/chipset in the Intel range? I'm not interested in SLI but would like PCI-e 2.0 (?) so I'm guessing P45? What about CPU and memory?

 

[cusideabelincoln]

Originally posted by: krwilsonn
I picked up an Arctic Cooling Freezer 7 Pro for next to nothing and hope to use it in my next build. Does anyone have or have used this cooler? I always thought Zalmans were "cool" in the past but people here seem to not be too impressed with them. A friend of mine has an AMD X2 6000+ /Nforce 570 sli setup and he's always bragging that his system is faster since I got left behind with Socket 939. What would be a comparable CPU/chipset in the Intel range? I'm not interested in SLI but would like PCI-e 2.0 (?) so I'm guessing P45? What about CPU and memory?

The closest thing(s) would be the E2220 or E7200, since the 6000+ performs somewhere in between that range and Intel has no other processors priced in that range.

A P43 or P45 motherboard will be the most economical solution for you, and just about any DDR2 800 RAM is going to work just fine.

 

[bryanW1995]

no, a p35 mobo will be the most economical. p43/45 is the next gen and is typically a lot more than the $50-80 that you can spend on a good quality p35.

 

[Ksyder]

So then what do you lose? Its "official" faster FSB and PCIE 2.0, right? Is P35 still the best bang for the buck? What about Penryn/Nehalem support? What board is going to be good for perhaps 1 or 2 cpu upgrades?

 

[Ksyder]

The cheapest p35 board on Newegg was $65 for ECS. Its got 6 sata, etc. Not bad! I paid that same amount for my Foxconn 939 board 2 years ago. Its hard to get excited about $70 mb's when you've got $300 crazy heatpipe overclocker boards tempting you...