Budget GPU to replace HD 3000?

StinkyPinky

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I'm trying to locate a GPU that is limited to a 300W PSU that will be a reasonable improvement over the HD 3000 graphics. This is for Minecraft that my son plays.

I was looking at the GT 730 but that seems to need a 350W PSU....(at least some versions do)

Any ideas?
 

Ancalagon44

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Pretty sure your PSU could cope with a 730. I wouldn't worry about it.

The 350w requirement is to cover themselves - it should run on most 300w PSUs. But they make the requirement a little higher to make sure that nobody can say, "But it doesnt run on my old busted 300w PSU?"

Any discrete GPU is going to be a major upgrade over your HD 3000.
 

Flapdrol1337

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Yeah, a gtx 750 or 750Ti only uses 50-60W.

On the nvidia website it says there's a 300W psu minimum requirement with those.
 

Insert_Nickname

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Seconding the stock 750non-TI. Its power requirements are minimal, and it'll provide a massive performance boost. You get HVEC decoding thrown in free too.

Might be a little overkill for minecraft, but look at it as future-proofing... ;)
 

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Yeah, I'd recommend the 750. It's based on a newer design than the 730, so even though it is a lot faster it doesn't draw much more power. (And it actually uses less power than the 740!)
 

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Seconding the stock 750non-TI. Its power requirements are minimal, and it'll provide a massive performance boost. You get HVEC decoding thrown in free too.

Might be a little overkill for minecraft, but look at it as future-proofing... ;)

Actually, AFAIK 750/750ti Maxwells only support partial HVEC decoding. Still better than nothing I guess...
 

Insert_Nickname

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Actually, AFAIK 750/750ti Maxwells only support partial HVEC decoding. Still better than nothing I guess...

Yup. But still much better then software decoding. Only the GTX960 has full hardware support for HVEC decoding (at this time), the 970/980 relies on the same partial HW decoding. As do Intel Gen 7.5/8 IGPs BTW.

It apperently isn't that much of a drawback either. From Anandtech's GTX980 review:

Finally, and somewhat paradoxically, Maxwell 2 inherits Kepler and Maxwell 1’s hybrid HEVC decode support. First introduced with Maxwell 1 and backported to Kepler, NVIDIA’s hybrid HEVC decode support enables HEVC decoding on these parts by using a combination of software (shader) and hardware decoding, leveraging the reusable portions of the H.264 decode block to offload to fixed function hardware what elements it can, and processing the rest in software.
A hybrid decode process is not going to be as power efficient as a full fixed function decoder, but handled in the GPU it will be much faster and more power efficient than handling the process in software. The fact that Maxwell 2 gets a hardware HEVC encoder but a hybrid HEVC decoder is in turn a result of the realities of hardware development for NVIDIA; you can’t hybridize encoding, and the hybrid decode process is good enough for now. So NVIDIA spent their efforts on getting hardware HEVC encoding going first, and at this point we’d expect to see full hardware HEVC decoding show up in a future generation of hardware (and we’d note that NVIDIA can swap VP blocks at will, so it doesn’t necessarily have to be Pascal).
 

BSim500

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Will the PSU cope with that though?
I know someone who has run his 750Ti on a 160w Pico-PSU power brick, plenty of people have used it on 200-250w SFX PSU's, etc, so unless you've got the world's worst $15 300w PSU, it should work just fine. (A lot of PSU requirements are exaggerated for low-end cards purely to cover dodgy "fire hazard" PSU's that claim to be of a certain wattage they can't sustain).
 

therealnickdanger

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AT measured 180W total system power running Crysis 3 on a system likely much more power-hungry than yours. 300W PSU, even at 70% efficiency (210W), is enough for a 750Ti.

http://www.anandtech.com/bench/GPU14/885

CPU: Intel Core i7-4960X @ 4.2GHz
Motherboard: ASRock Fatal1ty X79 Professional
Hard Disk: Samsung SSD 840 EVO (750GB)
Memory: G.Skill RipjawZ DDR3-1866 4 x 8GB (9-10-9-26)
 

Flapdrol1337

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300W PSU, even at 70% efficiency (210W)
Psu's are rated by their output power, not input power, so efficiency doesn't matter.

Of course many psu's aren't able to run at their power rating for long. But with a sandy bridge cpu and a gtx750 you won't get close to 300W unless you have 8 harddisks in or something.
 

Headfoot

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yeah I would avoid the absolute bottom barrel chips as they are usually based on long outdated designs. Go at least gtx 750, radeon r7 260.
 

StinkyPinky

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What CPU are you using ??

He has my old 2500k CPU so it's a good CPU. (non overclocked).

All this PC has is a SSD, one HDD never really used, and the CPU.

Thanks everyone for the advice. Will look towards a 750 but I need a low profile version. Will take a look, not sure if they are made.
 

Insert_Nickname

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Thanks everyone for the advice. Will look towards a 750 but I need a low profile version. Will take a look, not sure if they are made.

Look no further. Gigabyte makes one:

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5144#ov

Also available in 750TI flavour:

http://www.gigabyte.com/products/product-page.aspx?pid=5160#ov

Zotac makes one too:

http://www.zotac.com/products/graph...product/gtx-750/detail/geforce-gtx-750-3.html

But I don't have any experience with Zotacs quality...
 
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Zotac is underrated if you asked me. It's one of the few brands I've never heard anything negative of. The one video card I've bought and mini-pc I've used worked perfectly for years.