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Budget Gaming System

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Shuttle AN35N $54
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PowerColor 256bit 9800SE softmodded to pro/xt $150

$464 and will destroy what you have listed.
 
Originally posted by: Tostada
None of those parts really make any sense. It just doesn't fit together.

I would go with AMD, but you can make a fine Intel system with or without overclocking. Still...

Why on earth would you ever use an 848P board when the 865PE version is $10 more?
Why use a WD drive when there are faster, quieter, more reliable drives for the same price?
Why use PC4400?
Why use a Zalman heatsink when you have a loud PSU, hard drive and video card?
Why get an 8X DVD burner when you can get a dual-layer or a 12X one now for about the same price?
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The IS7 will absolutely kill the IC7 motherboard when it comes to overclocking, that's why.😉

edit: The non-Max 3 board, that is...
 
@3chordcharlie - It may be overkill...but I'd rather have the speed if I can use it. If I get 3.3GHz that's 275MHz*2 = 550MH, so I can run 1:1. Maybe I won't, but if I can, might as well have the memory.

@ninno12345 - That is a rambling mess which I didn't bother reading because it's hurting my brain looking at it. I don't want an AMD system. If you hvaen't figured that out by now, I'm sorry.

@lonyo - Nforce 2, while it may be good for the most part, has had some problems with memory and other compatability issues that I've seen. I don't think you can argue that the i865 would be a better chipset.

@zebo - First, I want an Intel system, only watned comments on the remaining hardware. I've chosen a good overclocking motherboard and CPU already. And...I want some brand name memory that I've actually heard of before, thx.


Basically I don't care what you think about an AMD. That doesn't matter. I know what I know and have done my research and have decided on an Intel system. Perhaps it won't be as fast as a particular AMD, but I'm not in it only for performance but for stability and compatability as well.
 
Originally posted by: nido
@3chordcharlie - It may be overkill...but I'd rather have the speed if I can use it. If I get 3.3GHz that's 275MHz*2 = 550MH, so I can run 1:1. Maybe I won't, but if I can, might as well have the memory.

@ninno12345 - That is a rambling mess which I didn't bother reading because it's hurting my brain looking at it. I don't want an AMD system. If you hvaen't figured that out by now, I'm sorry.

@lonyo - Nforce 2, while it may be good for the most part, has had some problems with memory and other compatability issues that I've seen. I don't think you can argue that the i865 would be a better chipset.

@zebo - First, I want an Intel system, only watned comments on the remaining hardware. I've chosen a good overclocking motherboard and CPU already. And...I want some brand name memory that I've actually heard of before, thx.


Basically I don't care what you think about an AMD. That doesn't matter. I know what I know and have done my research and have decided on an Intel system. Perhaps it won't be as fast as a particular AMD, but I'm not in it only for performance but for stability and compatability as well.
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You are really sickbeast and made another user acct. so you could play out your Intel fanboy theory right? :laugh:
 
Oops, I got confused. The Abit AI7 is the one that overclocks like crazy. The IS7 won't go much past 240fsb, which isn't all that fast when it's paired with a 2.4C.
 
If 'all you wanted' was advice on the rest of the system, you didn't need to post anything to find out. Just have a look at the other posts, and you'll see what you will be told:

get a gig of good quality ram, get a 9800pro (or if you have $$$ to burn, get an x800), get a good power supply, and don't use stock cooling if you want to OC.

You don't care about stability any more than most AMD users - you want your box to be 'intel' and you've decided to pay extra for the privalege. I've run amd systems with several months of uptime on kt266a and 333, sis735, and nforce2. They all worked without a hitch from the day I turned them on until the day I sent them out the door. Your choice of chipset will ALSO be very stable; no one is disputing that. That's fine - you'll notice I didn't try to change your mind, I just told you why you're getting so much flak over choosing intel for a budget gaming system.

You really should consider bumping your p4 up a speed notch, since you will slightly increase your chances of a great overclock, and more importantly bring your fsb down to something sane like 220-250. The money you can save buying pc3500-3700 or so should help pay for the cpu upgrade.
 
Going for budget?

skip the floppy, i dont have one for my computer and i have not needed
skip the dvd, your dvd burner can double as your dvd rom can't it? otherwise get one that does
go w/ 9800pro or 9600pro, the 9600 xt is a waste. Not enough of a performance boost from the 9600pro
80 gig SATA unless yo'ure sure you really really need teh 160
Ram? I have pc3200 OCZ EL plat editiion at 2325 and its pretty solid, maybe that

If you have saved enough money i would go w/ 2.8C. With strong mobo support people hve gotten those to go 3.5
 
Originally posted by: nido
The IS7 is 865, not 848.

What's wrong with the WD? I hope you wouldn't recommend a Maxtor instead. The only other drive I would get is a Seagate.

PC4400 is 550MHz....since I want to overclock I want to have headroom and I want to be able to run the memory 1:1.

Why use a Zalman? The HD isn't loud. The zalman will cool really good for the overclock. I don't plan on using their fanmate thing.

Dual layer isn't mature enough of a technology yet. I would rather wait for an 8x Dual Layer instead of the 2.4x.
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Well, then it looks like you've got a good mobo/CPU combo.

What's wrong with WD? Their drives are louder and slower than Samsung/Hitachi drives, they seem to be getting a lot of complaints lately and disproportionate number of them die within a month. I think they're just about the last place that doesn't put fluid bearings in all their drives. Just poke around StorageReview and their forums for awhile. WD's special edition drives, Hitachi's SATA drives and all of Samsung's drives are all good seeing as they have 3 year warranties, but WD is the worst of the bunch. Hitachis are as fast as the 36G Raptors in many benchmarks.

Yes, PC4400 is 550 MHz, and I love OCZ EL memory, but there's nothing magical about it just because it says PC4400. If you're planning on running your 2.4 at 3.0GHz, you want PC4000, which has the same timing and is $83 cheaper.

I'm sure the Zalman HS is just fine, but there are better things out there if you're not going to try and make your system silent -- and if you were trying to make your system silent, you'd be getting a quiet PSU and some quiet case fans.

What exactly are you using to gauge the maturity of dual-layer technology? It seems to work fine in all the reviews I've seen. Would you rather have 2.4X dual-layer capability, or no dual-layer capability? The NEC 8X DVD+R/-R with 2.4X DL is $89.99. The Lite-On 8X DVD+R/-R is $78.99. When dual-layer media gets cheap, single-layer burners will be almost completely obsolete, so I would certainly think it's worth $11.
 
Originally posted by: nido
Basically I don't care what you think about an AMD. That doesn't matter. I know what I know and have done my research and have decided on an Intel system. Perhaps it won't be as fast as a particular AMD, but I'm not in it only for performance but for stability and compatability as well.
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Please just keep your comments to "I'm getting an Intel and that's that."

I know, it sounds like people are being rude, but it's partyly your fault. You're pretending that your research has lead you to believe that the Intel is more stable and somehow better. You're pretending that NForce boards have memory problems, when in fact it is usually the Intel Socket 478 boards which can be quite touchy about memory.

If you say you're sticking to Intel, that's great, but when you attempt to justify it, that's when people will correct your statements and ask for some kind of proof.
 
Originally posted by: Tostada
Originally posted by: nido
Basically I don't care what you think about an AMD. That doesn't matter. I know what I know and have done my research and have decided on an Intel system. Perhaps it won't be as fast as a particular AMD, but I'm not in it only for performance but for stability and compatability as well.
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Please just keep your comments to "I'm getting an Intel and that's that."

I know, it sounds like people are being rude, but it's partyly your fault. You're pretending that your research has lead you to believe that the Intel is more stable and somehow better. You're pretending that NForce boards have memory problems, when in fact it is usually the Intel Socket 478 boards which can be quite touchy about memory.

If you say you're sticking to Intel, that's great, but when you attempt to justify it, that's when people will correct your statements and ask for some kind of proof.
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Man i just got a new system:

All components, but case/psu new in box, unused.




Antec 1030b case (2 intake, 3 exhaust.. GREAT airflow)
Enermax 465p PSU, 431 Watts -- got both for $85 shipped on Anandtech
Abit NF7-S Rev 2.0 -- $85 shipped on newegg
Kingston HyperX PC4000 2x256 -- got $110 here on AT
Volcano 7+ (used, but i lapped it) -- $20 here on AT
Mobile 2500+ -- $88 on Newegg
Seagate 120GB 8mb running through Serrielle (abit) -- $50, sale in store
Geforce 4 Ti4200 128mb 8xagp (gonna get Sapphire 9800 pro) -- allready had


Any i believe once i get my 9800 pro, my system will smoke yours in gaming performance... A great Processor (best, or 2nd best stepping, depending on who is talking..), solid, reliable ram to support it at fsb250, a great sturdy power supply, a strong heatsink/fan, and the overclockers nf2 dream mobo. Bling!
 
I think logic doesn't apply to Intel or AMD fanbois for that matter.

Everybody is telling you it's stable, faster and cheaper -- and you have your wonderful info to the contrary.

So buy your Intel system, don't ask for help when you're just trolling, and go hang out at some other forum where members don't have common sense and simple advertising dollars buy their minds.

Though I have a feeling... you already frequent those places.
 
If your serious about building a intel system, i would wait until late june when the lga775 sockets come out. The prescotts will really start to show their speed there, outperforming northwoods most likely.
 
Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
You are really sickbeast and made another user acct. so you could play out your Intel fanboy theory right? :laugh:
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Please don't mistake this buffoon for an intelligent human being such as myself. I know my icon is an ape, but I'm no buffoon, trust me.

And no, I don't go around roleplaying on the AT forums for kicks. The most fun I have is when people say "I just like intel better". It's a daily occurance and it makes my day every time. 😀 :beer:
 
You ask for help but you reject everything people is telling you. Why don't you just buy what you want and stop wasting our time!
 
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