• We’re currently investigating an issue related to the forum theme and styling that is impacting page layout and visual formatting. The problem has been identified, and we are actively working on a resolution. There is no impact to user data or functionality, this is strictly a front-end display issue. We’ll post an update once the fix has been deployed. Thanks for your patience while we get this sorted.

Budget gaming build - Intel G4560 or AMD 2200G / 2400G?

Page 7 - Seeking answers? Join the AnandTech community: where nearly half-a-million members share solutions and discuss the latest tech.
Kenmitch said:
Sometimes users have other uses for their rigs other than just the gaming aspect of it. Maybe the budget gamer is a budget gamer only because he/she is only going to game sometimes. The iGPU might satisfy this need while the 2200 might not be enough on the cpu side. The xtra threads on the 2400 do have added value and most likely longevity in the end.
Click to expand...

Well said.

They are lots people like me who want more than a console can give, ie:- drawing and 3d programs. Also when I do game I want a mouse and keyboard, can`t stand controller
 
NTMBK said:
You can Facebook and watch porn on your phone. A PC is not essential.
Click to expand...

On top of that, does this only apply to first time PC buyers? Because otherwise most people probably already have a PC. I am in this boat.

I was planning to buy now, but crazy GPU prices are not forcing me into an APU, they are shelving my buying plans till sanity returns to the PC market. I will just continue with my old PC for longer than planned.
 
NTMBK said:
In all fairness, if your budget is that tight I would recommend just picking up a cheap second hand XBox One or PS4.
Click to expand...
There is a situation where that makes sense I suppose. However, let me give you a more likely situation for members asking about a new budget build in the CPU forum, that makes it a terrible suggestion. In a word, Steam. That used console, the one I own zero games for, is not a very budget friendly option when compared to being able to immediately fire up my steam library on my new budget PC.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
There is a situation where that makes sense I suppose. However, let me give you a more likely situation for members asking about a new budget build in the CPU forum, that makes it a terrible suggestion. In a word, Steam. That used console, the one I own zero games for, is not a very budget friendly option when compared to being able to immediately fire up my steam library on my new budget PC.
Click to expand...
One can say that if an old steam libary is the goal and 5usd games or old game stuff the budget then a 2200 is a darn fine apu. I have gamed 1000 hrs on slow but expensive intel laptop stuff during the last half decade so i know the drill and compared to that the 2200 is not only dirt cheap bit also a space rocket in speed. Same for the mobile apu btw. Be it cpu or gpu speed.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
There is a situation where that makes sense I suppose. However, let me give you a more likely situation for members asking about a new budget build in the CPU forum, that makes it a terrible suggestion. In a word, Steam. That used console, the one I own zero games for, is not a very budget friendly option when compared to being able to immediately fire up my steam library on my new budget PC.
Click to expand...

If you already have a Steam Library, you already have a PC, and likely it is powerful enough to play the games you have in you Library.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
There is a situation where that makes sense I suppose. However, let me give you a more likely situation for members asking about a new budget build in the CPU forum, that makes it a terrible suggestion. In a word, Steam. That used console, the one I own zero games for, is not a very budget friendly option when compared to being able to immediately fire up my steam library on my new budget PC.
Click to expand...

If you already have a large steam library, then you likely already have a PC that's almost as fast as the 2200... or could be faster with a new GPU.
 
NTMBK said:
If you already have a large steam library, then you likely already have a PC that's almost as fast as the 2200... or could be faster with a new GPU.
Click to expand...
Not so sure. Depends on budget. Still some dual core sb out there running hd3000 or some hd 4850 or even core2 stuff with some antique gpu. A 2200 is miles a head in all dinensions compared to that or even some more recent stuff like first gen bd apu stuff.
 
PeterScott said:
If you already have a Steam Library, you already have a PC, and likely it is powerful enough to play the games you have in you Library.
Click to expand...
NTMBK said:
If you already have a large steam library, then you likely already have a PC that's almost as fast as the 2200... or could be faster with a new GPU.
Click to expand...
If we exclude all the members that mention they are on phenom, low end FX, dual core Pentium, old vid cards that were never more than low mid tier, with 1 or 2 GB ram, then I will concede that point. But that new APU budget rig will play all those Steam games, and new ones too. How does that console become a better value again? I am not seeing how buying console games for a console with a limited lifespan is superior to buying games on Steam, where they can play them on their new PC, and the next one, and the next. Do enlighten me how console is better investment.
 
krumme said:
Not so sure. Depends on budget. Still some dual core sb out there running hd3000 or some hd 4850 or even core2 stuff with some antique gpu. A 2200 is miles a head in all dinensions compared to that or even some more recent stuff like first gen bd apu stuff.
Click to expand...
Beat me to it.
 
DAPUNISHER said:
If we exclude all the members that mention they are on phenom, low end FX, dual core Pentium, old vid cards that were never more than low mid tier, with 1 or 2 GB ram, then I will concede that point. But that new APU budget rig will play all those Steam games, and new ones too. How does that console become a better value again? I am not seeing how buying console games for a console with a limited lifespan is superior to buying games on Steam, where they can play them on their new PC, and the next one, and the next. Do enlighten me how console is better investment.
Click to expand...

If you already have a PC for your Steam Library, A console opens up new possibilities and consoles have quite long lifespans and are likely to be backward compatible going forwards.

If you buy an APU, you can only play your steam library.

If you buy a console you can play your Steam Library and Unique Console games.
 
ZGR said:
Once you go 144hz, going back to play a 30hz game is brutal.
Click to expand...
After being on console for 7-8 years until my son outgrew them, I can share some POV. I double dipped games I had on console already when they were dirt cheap on Steam and Windows store sales. And the experience is so much better now, some games play very differently. Gears of War Ultimate looks and plays drastically better on PC. The fps was so bad on 360, that even sticking with controller on PC I can no scope shots I never made on 360 because of the much higher and consistent fps. Fallout games are leagues better, and PC means I can revisit them with an experience console never matched. All of my ps3 games are useless since 4 does not play them, and I will not buy another 3.

People can do what they want, but if I did not have the money for a mid range PC right now, the last thing I would do is get stuck with console experience. Better to play on APU and add a vid card later, than deal with permanently inferior experience. Heck, I was on them so long, I got used to it. Going back to a decent PC left me with jaw dropping moments due to the improved experience.

And least anyone forget: OP bought used stuff, and went that route, Making the thread an unintentional troll since it was never a listed option, and he bought nothing originally inquired about.
 
Last edited:
PeterScott said:
If you already have a PC for your Steam Library, A console opens up new possibilities and consoles have quite long lifespans and are likely to be backward compatible going forwards.

If you buy an APU, you can only play your steam library.

If you buy a console you can play your Steam Library and Unique Console games.
Click to expand...
I beg to differ. I have over 100 games, and NONE of them do I access through steam.
 
Markfw said:
I beg to differ. I have over 100 games, and NONE of them do I access through steam.
Click to expand...
That is a great point Mark. On PC you can eventually play just about every game, even console. Old FDD, CD and DVD PC games, GOG, etc.
 
Markfw said:
I beg to differ. I have over 100 games, and NONE of them do I access through steam.
Click to expand...

What are you differing with?

It doesn't matter where the PC games come from. The point was:

If you already have a huge library of PC games, then you already have a PC! So you probably aren't in the market for a low end option.

The same goes for PCMR comments like not being able to go back from 144Hz gaming.

The cases people are arguing are also cases where you would NOT be looking on an APU as an upgrade.
 
PeterScott said:
What are you differing with?

It doesn't matter where the PC games come from. The point was:

If you already have a huge library of PC games, then you already have a PC! So you probably aren't in the market for a low end option.

The same goes for PCMR comments like not being able to go back from 144Hz gaming.

The cases people are arguing are also cases where you would NOT be looking on an APU as an upgrade.
Click to expand...

Your statment above "If you buy an APU, you can only play your steam library." is what I differ with. Case, I had an old slow computer or APU, and I want to upgrade, and I already have 100 games.
 
Markfw said:
Your statment above "If you buy an APU, you can only play your steam library." is what I differ with. Case, I had an old slow computer or APU, and I want to upgrade, and I already have 100 games.
Click to expand...

Insert "PC game Library", I only used Steam Library as an example because that is what the poster I quoted was talking about.

Also, are you buying an APU as an upgrade? Or is just "other people" that are going to be doing this?
 
krumme said:
Not so sure. Depends on budget. Still some dual core sb out there running hd3000 or some hd 4850 or even core2 stuff with some antique gpu. A 2200 is miles a head in all dinensions compared to that or even some more recent stuff like first gen bd apu stuff.
Click to expand...

But when you compare the cost of a full new build with DDR4 and a new Windows license, versus just adding a new GPU to the SB system or to replace the 4850, that SB system comes out way in front.
DAPUNISHER said:
If we exclude all the members that mention they are on phenom, low end FX, dual core Pentium, old vid cards that were never more than low mid tier, with 1 or 2 GB ram, then I will concede that point. But that new APU budget rig will play all those Steam games, and new ones too. How does that console become a better value again? I am not seeing how buying console games for a console with a limited lifespan is superior to buying games on Steam, where they can play them on their new PC, and the next one, and the next. Do enlighten me how console is better investment.
Click to expand...

A PC like that is absolutely fine. I was on a Phenom II until pretty recently. If you're in a place where $100 is a big deal, you can live with an older PC just fine.
 
PeterScott said:
If you already have a PC for your Steam Library, A console opens up new possibilities and consoles have quite long lifespans and are likely to be backward compatible going forwards.

If you buy an APU, you can only play your steam library.

If you buy a console you can play your Steam Library and Unique Console games.
Click to expand...

Lets look at the options.

PlayStation 4, play Sony games and third party games and a few indy ports. Mostly limited to games made for controllers and wheels.

Nintendo Switch, Play Nintendo games, play very few third party games, play ports of much older games. Mostly limited to controller input.

Xbox, Play MS games, play Xbox 360 games, play Xbox games, play a few Indy ports. Limited mostly to Controller and wheels.

PC. Play MS Xbox games since '16, play Steam games, Play 80% of the third party games, Play thousands of Indy games, play back library of games going back 20 years. Supports all types of inputs and therefore the one system that is capable of playing all types of games.

I get your point putting more money into another system when you can get a console instead and add to the games you can play. But a PC has near infinite play opportunity and really only misses out on 3-4 games a year per console and only the Sony and Nintendo ones, and can play all types of games comfortably something that can't be said for the rest. Only the switch really changes things up to give you an experiences that is hard to match on PC.
 
Topweasel said:
Lets look at the options.

PlayStation 4, play Sony games and third party games and a few indy ports. Mostly limited to games made for controllers and wheels.

Nintendo Switch, Play Nintendo games, play very few third party games, play ports of much older games. Mostly limited to controller input.

Xbox, Play MS games, play Xbox 360 games, play Xbox games, play a few Indy ports. Limited mostly to Controller and wheels.

PC. Play MS Xbox games since '16, play Steam games, Play 80% of the third party games, Play thousands of Indy games, play back library of games going back 20 years. Supports all types of inputs and therefore the one system that is capable of playing all types of games.

I get your point putting more money into another system when you can get a console instead and add to the games you can play. But a PC has near infinite play opportunity and really only misses out on 3-4 games a year per console and only the Sony and Nintendo ones, and can play all types of games comfortably something that can't be said for the rest. Only the switch really changes things up to give you an experiences that is hard to match on PC.
Click to expand...

I don't think you get my point at all.

I wasn't arguing Console vs PC.

I was arguing in favor of:

Your current PC + Console. This gives you PC and Console games.

instead of:

Your current PC + a new low end APU PC. This gives you only PC games.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

TRENDING THREADS

Back
Top