BSOD/Boot Up Problems

L337Llama

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I own an athlon xp based desktop. It has 2 512 mb ddr400 ram, a 120gb WD hdd, an athlon xp-m 2400, a PNY Vanilla 6800, and an Abit NF7-S.

I left it at home for the family to use since I am using a different desktop at college. Anyway, I get a call from my brother that says it isnt working. He did something in the bios to turn it to failsafe defaults, which actually raises the cpu voltage higher than the stock speeds.

So, I am home from school now and am trying to fix the problem. At first, the cpu (i was getting cpu related error messages at boot up) and it was acting up and I set it to the default multiplier/voltage settings for the cpu. That fixed the cpu error messages, now I am trying to diagnose the original issue.

Windows XP starts booting, it gives the little screen with the bar, and once it's done it BSODS for a split second, too short for me to see what is actually there, and the computer resets. I am trying to figure out things I can do to diagnose the problem.

From what I can gather, the cpu and video card at the problem. The video card does some message before the bios, as it always has. The cpu was giving issues, like it wouldn't go past the boot messages, but resetting it to the factory settings of the 2400 fixed that. Right now I am downloading ubuntu to try to run it as a live cd to see if it's anything else, since I can't get to windows to run any sort of testing.

What other diagnostic suggestions do you folks have for figuring out the problem? I will also try changing the ram, booting with just 1 stick, and I will write more when I get ubuntu running.

Thank you for your time and help, have a nice day.
 

L337Llama

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*update* Tried switching the ram sticks around in a bunch of different arrangements, it's didn't fix the problem. I am trying to run the windows repair stuff while I am waiting for ubuntu.
 

olmer

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Anything really - overheating, memory/CPU or a faulty PSU. Graphics would likely cause hard freezes before reaching this point. Try running with an open case first. Does it hang/restarts in BIOS after a while? If so check all fans/clean dust/reapply thermal paste where needed. If not next step is to use memtest from an optical/floppy and if passes few cycles than diagnose HDD with WD tools. Otherwise soft issue.
 

L337Llama

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I don't think it's case temps. The case is open, but the case is well ventilated, all the fans and heatsinks are secure, and nothing is overclocked. The ubuntu cd had memtest on it, so I ran 5 cycles and it passed. I don't have a floppy drive. Are there any hd diagnosis programs I can use I can boot off a cd? I ran the ubuntu cd, but it gave me beef. It said there was an I/O error at several locations on HDA1. Running windows also looked sort of wierd, I wanted to repair the existing installation and it didnt recognize it, although it says the partition is in use. So I am leaning towards faulty hdd, I just need a diagnosis program I can use with a cd.
 

Tenet

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Hi L337Llama,

When you reboot XP, keep hittng the F8 key until you get the "Windows Advanced Option Menu". Move down the menu with the down arrow key until you reach the selection: "Disable automatic restart on system failure". Then hit ENTER and it will reboot. This time when it reaches the BSOD it will stay there, so you can see the stop error and get an idea of whats going on.
 

L337Llama

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Thanks, I tried that and the bsod I get says a problem has been detected and Windows has been shut down to prevent damage.
Then it says unmountable_boot_volume.

At the bottom, it says stop and then it gives some hexidecimal numbers. I checked microsoft's site and got this:
http://support.microsoft.com/kb/297185

So I am running chkdsk from the windows cd. Considering the problem I get when trying to boot ubuntu, I am trying to figure out if the hard drive is physically damaged, or if windows is fubar'd. Are there any hd diagnostic tools that boot off cds I can use to check for hardware damage?
 

Tenet

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OK, good you found the mskba for the error. What happened with the chkdsk /r ? Did it make repairs? And what other steps did you cover from the mskba?

The diagnostics can be downloaded from your hdd mfr website.