judasmachine
Diamond Member
when in basic, NEVER be first, or last.
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Brutuskend's :HOW TO SURVIVE IN THE MILITARY
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AmphibSailor
Golden Member
Korea has a curfew that is applicable to all military...12 am weekdays and 1am weekends and holidays.:disgust: So if you're out past curfew...don't return to the base, spend the night somewhere.
SoulAssassin
Diamond Member
Your sig is still annoying.
Awesome idea Brutuskend!
That's a big issue here. Lots of violence in the dorms too.
A good friend of mine was recently raped in her dorm overseas. Attacker climbed in through her window.
So, to those of you going in, be prepared, and don't be a dumbsh!t. The military is awesome if you keep your head on straight!
Oh - and if you have a female TI/instructor in camp, bet your ass she's twice as mean as the men. We had a couple. The Commander at the time was also female, and very attractive, but would rip your head off in a second. So put your pen0r away, it will only get you in trouble!
And, just because your MO or AFSC is highly technical, you can and will be put on KP/toilet/grounds duty. I ran the Help Desk for a 1500+ person multi-service secure compound, and still had to clean up turds from a backed up toilet, under the raised floor tiles. It a lot easier on you if you just expect it now and get over it already.
At 500 knots, your location is already wrong
Demon-Xanth
Lifer
Demon-Xanth
Lifer
Along those lines:
While on a submarine, when asked to idenfity all of the antennas, do not go around asking "What is a BRA-4?"
Do not go looking for elbow grease
While on a submarine, when asked to idenfity all of the antennas, do not go around asking "What is a BRA-4?"
Do not go looking for elbow grease
Amused
Elite Member
All very good advice. I would follow all of it.
Another piece of advice for basic: You'll probably be one of the smarter ones there... especially if you go infantry. This will mean you'll figure out ways to get over and get around some of the rules and try to take advantage of those. Just know that the idiots who surround you WILL rat you out because they couldn't figure it out themselves. Yet by the end of basic they'll all be doing the same damn things.
The advice about cons are true. Especially the Korean run bars just off base (most US bases have at least one Korean run bar/night club right off base). NEVER be a sponser and buy one of the ladies drinks. They drink water/soda, pocket the cash for the drink and tell you anything you want to hear. They're like a whore, but you don't even get laid. I watched many a fool go through entire paychecks with these ladies.
Another piece of advice for basic: You'll probably be one of the smarter ones there... especially if you go infantry. This will mean you'll figure out ways to get over and get around some of the rules and try to take advantage of those. Just know that the idiots who surround you WILL rat you out because they couldn't figure it out themselves. Yet by the end of basic they'll all be doing the same damn things.
The advice about cons are true. Especially the Korean run bars just off base (most US bases have at least one Korean run bar/night club right off base). NEVER be a sponser and buy one of the ladies drinks. They drink water/soda, pocket the cash for the drink and tell you anything you want to hear. They're like a whore, but you don't even get laid. I watched many a fool go through entire paychecks with these ladies.
herbiehancock
Senior member
Well, it's been a long time since I was in the military---'72-'79, but a whole lot of what was written above is soooo true.
But about not volunteering for anything......almost invariably you'd get stuck on a sh!t detail if you did......but sometimes it would pay off...but you have to listen VERY CLOSELY to what's being asked.
Case in point.....Drill Sgt. asked if anyone had any driving experience of anything like bigger trucks/buses. I raised my hand and it paid off....because the very few who did were "trained" to drive buses for a few weekends ferrying the rest of the suckers in our basic training platoon from one grass cutting detail to another. And these weren't pushing mowers or anything like that.....these were details using swing blades cutting back long overgrowth in the back 40 on post. We watched from our buses while the slaves died in the heat.
Never forget that........... 🙂
LEARN your general orders! NEVER fall asleep pounding the ground at 3AM on some useless guard duty crap. Failing at either will get you in the sh!t house for the duration of your training. They will quiz you at weird times and on guard duty, if you happen to have to pull that during basic, and you will, they will check on you....very quietly and unexpectedly.....and then ask you what your second General Order is......
And you better know........
Be nice to two groups of troops............cooks and medics.
One could possibly save your life......
The other could make your life miserable........
I'll leave you to figure out which is which.
But remember this:
Once you sign all the papers and take the induction oath or whatever...........you are owned by good ole Uncle Sam. You have no rights at all....you are government property! Getting a bad sunburn when you're off some weekend and playing on the beach and you get back and cannot function well because you hurt so badly can get you an Article 15....the lowest form of judicial punishment in the military.....handed out at company level. Restriction, forfeit of some pay, extra duty, etc., are just some of the lovely things the company commander can do for rule-breakers and all without anything so much as a court, trial or appeal. Just bam! and hung out to dry.
Basic will suck....but remember, thousands upon thousands of people have endured through it before you, so you can hang in there and do it, too. You'll end up being quite surprised at what you're willing to put up with in the end.
🙂
But about not volunteering for anything......almost invariably you'd get stuck on a sh!t detail if you did......but sometimes it would pay off...but you have to listen VERY CLOSELY to what's being asked.
Case in point.....Drill Sgt. asked if anyone had any driving experience of anything like bigger trucks/buses. I raised my hand and it paid off....because the very few who did were "trained" to drive buses for a few weekends ferrying the rest of the suckers in our basic training platoon from one grass cutting detail to another. And these weren't pushing mowers or anything like that.....these were details using swing blades cutting back long overgrowth in the back 40 on post. We watched from our buses while the slaves died in the heat.
Never forget that........... 🙂
LEARN your general orders! NEVER fall asleep pounding the ground at 3AM on some useless guard duty crap. Failing at either will get you in the sh!t house for the duration of your training. They will quiz you at weird times and on guard duty, if you happen to have to pull that during basic, and you will, they will check on you....very quietly and unexpectedly.....and then ask you what your second General Order is......
And you better know........
Be nice to two groups of troops............cooks and medics.
One could possibly save your life......
The other could make your life miserable........
I'll leave you to figure out which is which.
But remember this:
Once you sign all the papers and take the induction oath or whatever...........you are owned by good ole Uncle Sam. You have no rights at all....you are government property! Getting a bad sunburn when you're off some weekend and playing on the beach and you get back and cannot function well because you hurt so badly can get you an Article 15....the lowest form of judicial punishment in the military.....handed out at company level. Restriction, forfeit of some pay, extra duty, etc., are just some of the lovely things the company commander can do for rule-breakers and all without anything so much as a court, trial or appeal. Just bam! and hung out to dry.
Basic will suck....but remember, thousands upon thousands of people have endured through it before you, so you can hang in there and do it, too. You'll end up being quite surprised at what you're willing to put up with in the end.
🙂
ShotgunSteven
Lifer
Leave your watch in your locker, or at least turn off the damned alarm. We had an idiot with the loudest, most annoying watch alarm and it went off in formation. Everyone had to leave theirs in their locker after that because he couldn't get it turned off.
When they make you do push-ups out in the mud, dirt, dust, dry grass, et cetera as punishment, DON'T brush yourself off when you're done and standing back at attention. A girl in our group had to keep brushing herself off after we got done with our push-ups, and every time she was spotted doing so, we had to drop and do more push-ups. After five sets, someone in the back finally yelled at her to knock it the fsck off, since she was too dense to figure out she was the reason we kept having to do more push-ups.
When you're getting your barracks ready for inspection, if you find an item that no one currently claims as their own, do NOT stash it in an unused locker. Someone did this with a can of shaving gel and a bottle of shampoo, and it was found during inspection. The CPO used them to write various and sundry colorful anecdotes all over the floor, which we of course had to clean up afterwards.
When they make you do push-ups out in the mud, dirt, dust, dry grass, et cetera as punishment, DON'T brush yourself off when you're done and standing back at attention. A girl in our group had to keep brushing herself off after we got done with our push-ups, and every time she was spotted doing so, we had to drop and do more push-ups. After five sets, someone in the back finally yelled at her to knock it the fsck off, since she was too dense to figure out she was the reason we kept having to do more push-ups.
When you're getting your barracks ready for inspection, if you find an item that no one currently claims as their own, do NOT stash it in an unused locker. Someone did this with a can of shaving gel and a bottle of shampoo, and it was found during inspection. The CPO used them to write various and sundry colorful anecdotes all over the floor, which we of course had to clean up afterwards.
When starting basic at an advanced rank (higher than E1) wait a few days or even a week before actually wearing your rank, unless you are told to do otherwise. I started as an E3 and didn't actually start wearing mine until after the first week. It literally took the Drill Sergeants over a month to even notice and I never had to be platoon leader. Platoon leader in Army Basic = you get to take responsibility for others screw ups.
Like another person said, "Don't be first or last", and just keep a low profile.
Also, for PT, if you are a good runner, volunteer for road guard duty. It saves a lot of hassle of running in formation and actually gives you a little freedom at a time when you have none.
Like another person said, "Don't be first or last", and just keep a low profile.
Also, for PT, if you are a good runner, volunteer for road guard duty. It saves a lot of hassle of running in formation and actually gives you a little freedom at a time when you have none.
imported_Baloo
Golden Member
Damn, I came here looking for funny and there isn't any.
Demon-Xanth
Lifer
Funny was there, you just missed it.
Common Sense beat up on Funny
Dr. Detroit
Diamond Member
Hmmmm, PT numbers.
I know I finished up basic back in '93 with a 259 for a final score. I started weight training once I got to my permanant duty station and ended up maxing my push-ups once, but my cardio suffered on that damn two-mile run.
No such thing as summer air and winter air for tires.
No such thing as blinker fluid.
No such thing as a box of grid squares.
Always keep your rifle pointed down range. Take your time when doing sight adjustments prior to qualifying on the range. Once your rifle is sighted its easier to score higher. If your partner on the range did not use every one of his rounds take his and load them into your clips. Odds are better you will hit one of those 300M targets if you shoot at it twice. Always shoot second in your group.
Shine your boots! Shine your brass!
I know I finished up basic back in '93 with a 259 for a final score. I started weight training once I got to my permanant duty station and ended up maxing my push-ups once, but my cardio suffered on that damn two-mile run.
No such thing as summer air and winter air for tires.
No such thing as blinker fluid.
No such thing as a box of grid squares.
Always keep your rifle pointed down range. Take your time when doing sight adjustments prior to qualifying on the range. Once your rifle is sighted its easier to score higher. If your partner on the range did not use every one of his rounds take his and load them into your clips. Odds are better you will hit one of those 300M targets if you shoot at it twice. Always shoot second in your group.
Shine your boots! Shine your brass!
brandonbull
Diamond Member
Sound powered phone batteries do not exist.
brandonbull
Diamond Member
My biggest peice of advice would be to save as much money as possible. Get an allotment from your check and put it in savings bonds or something so it's hard for you to touch it.
Avoid the women we liked to refer to as "paycheck pullers".
Avoid the women we liked to refer to as "paycheck pullers".
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