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Bruce Lee vs Mike Tyson (prime): who would win?

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Originally posted by: josphII
anybody that says jet li or bruce lee can/could have beat up Mike Tyson has obviously never been in a fight
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Wrong. I saw a guy who went about 6'1", 210 and benched about 400 get his ass handed to him by a little 5'6" guy who probably weighed about 120 soaking wet. There's a lot more factors besides just size and raw strength which you'd obviously know if you had ever been in a fight. In my whole life I've only met two guys I wouldn't screw with for anything and I had at least 60 pounds and 100 pounds on the bench on both of them.
 
Originally posted by: js1973
Bruce Lee vs Mike Tyson (prime): who would win?

I don't know. I have a hard time picking Bruce after seeing every traditional style martial artist get mauled by grapplers in UFC. I think a good little fighter would beat a bad big fighter, but would never beat a good big fighter.
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Thats because the *traditional martial artist* wasn't that *good* to start off with. You don't see any *good* martial artists in UFC. Also the fight is set with a *set* of rules. The ring for one definately helps the grappler, the floor, the rounds of 5 minutes, the gloves, no eye gouging, no fish hooking etc. Its a sport but it has rules which are not no holds barred. Its in favour of the grappler. You can not get good position and spacing in a ring.

There is some dodgy stuff said here:

I'm probably one of the biggest fans of power to weight ratios. But in a fight it DOESN'T MATTER. Bruce Lee may be a better pound for pound fighter but that doesn't matter in a street fight.

You would be hard pushed to see a boxer go longer then his *required* 3 minute rounds.

The boxer is only good at his thing, boxing. He fights with *gloves*. When a boxer hits without gloves its A LOT different. He will DEFINATELY not be used to hitting someone with his force WITHOUT gloves at all. He also uses the size of the gloves for blocking also.

Kicking is good but its hard to connect a good kick to anyone.

Jet Li is a FORMS CHAMPION. He did not compete in actual fighting competitions. Hes a forms champion. I really do not see ANY 11yr kid beat any GUY OVER 18 let alone guys that are between 20-30 and are expert fighters. The 11yr is not quick enough, strong enough. The 20-30yr old would have to be very very weak and slow amongst other things. No 11yr could beat a 20-30yr old. If they could I would be disgraced that person would let a kid of 11yr beat him.

I pick Bruce Lee because I'd think in a street fight he would do better. Faster, kicks at distance, more agile and NOT use to boxing and fighting with too many sets of rules. Hes had loads of street fights, probably beaten in a few of them unlike people who said he was *never beaten in any street fight*. Has more experience of a street fight.

Mike is a boxer. He can punch and box with 3 minutes x 12 rounds. He needs break and is specialised at boxing. If Bruce went to Box with Mike he would be mauled.

Street fight no gloves I'd take Bruce.

As for the breaking of wood and concrete I am not impressed. Especially the wood. They ALWAYS hit with the grain. NO ONE does it against the grain. NOW that is hard.

GaryShandling thats true but you can not expect a 11yr kid beat on a 20yr guy. The 11yr would get RAPED completely. He can only hit so hard and be so good because of his size and speed. The 20yr with normal size, skills and such would win. Combination of technique, strength and speed and others. But if your very lacking on one or the other then its not that great either. If you have all the technique in the world but you are slow and weak thats not going to help you. Depends on the situation and the fights.
 
dont anyone say bruce 😛

tyson was an animal, he could sit there and get hit for 30 minutes and that is nromal for him 🙂

if tyson punched bruce he would be out
 
Originally posted by: ed21x
Brude Lee, most definitely.

What surprises me on this forum is that a ton of people think Tyson can punch harder than Bruce Lee. It is typical of many matial arts students to be able to break blocks of wood and concrete with their bare hands. All it takes is one shot and Tyson would have his back broken.
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i dont think you quite understand, tyson, in his prime, being a boxer, was the best puncher there was in the world.
he could take hits better than anyone too
i bet you coulda beat tyson with a baseball bat and he wouldnt fall down
 
Originally posted by: chasem
Originally posted by: ed21x
Brude Lee, most definitely.

What surprises me on this forum is that a ton of people think Tyson can punch harder than Bruce Lee. It is typical of many matial arts students to be able to break blocks of wood and concrete with their bare hands. All it takes is one shot and Tyson would have his back broken.
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i dont think you quite understand, tyson, in his prime, being a boxer, was the best puncher there was in the world.
he could take hits better than anyone too
i bet you coulda beat tyson with a baseball bat and he wouldnt fall down
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He wasn't hit hard. Anyone who gets hit hard goes down like a sack of potatoes. If its a hit thats passing or its deflected that makes a big difference. Also hes hitting with a boxing glove. I doubt he could hit someone hard without a boxing glove and continue to fight. His hand would be mashed also so would the other person if it did connect!

 
Wow, I think this is probably the first time I've seen a poll here on OT that I didn't have an answer for instantly. That's actually a good question.

I had to go with wolverine kills them all because I can't really think who would win.
 
Bruce Lee definitely. If it was Lee and Tyson in a boxing ring with boxing rules, no doubt Tyson would win. But in a streetfight with no rules, Lee isn't limited to punching and playing nice. Tyson would do what he's good at: punch. Lee would do what he's good at: everything. He would punch, kick, strike at vital points, break bones, and use his wits to take down the big tree.
 
Bruce... Jet may be a martial arts competition wiz but competitions are nothing like the no-holds-barred street fights that Bruce participated in on a regular basis.

The reason why Bruce didn't win many competitions if any at all is because he believed that the minimal contact martial arts competitions of the era sucked major @$$. They were mainly shouting contests. Those of you folks that watch UFC and Pride know that fighting is more than just technique. Bruce knew ground control, holds, and pretty much every dirty trick in the book.

Tyson wouldn't even be a challenge to Bruce. Two words: "Crotch Shot"
If Bruce's kick can shoot Kareem like a cannonball over ten yards... imagine what that would do hitting the groin of a living person.
 
Bruce Lee would KILL Tyson. Lee is way too fast for Tyson to hit. Lee knows so many moves it would confuse Tyson and make Tyson bite his ear off.
 
Originally posted by: Koing
Originally posted by: chasem
Originally posted by: ed21x
Brude Lee, most definitely.

What surprises me on this forum is that a ton of people think Tyson can punch harder than Bruce Lee. It is typical of many matial arts students to be able to break blocks of wood and concrete with their bare hands. All it takes is one shot and Tyson would have his back broken.
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i dont think you quite understand, tyson, in his prime, being a boxer, was the best puncher there was in the world.
he could take hits better than anyone too
i bet you coulda beat tyson with a baseball bat and he wouldnt fall down
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He wasn't hit hard. Anyone who gets hit hard goes down like a sack of potatoes. If its a hit thats passing or its deflected that makes a big difference. Also hes hitting with a boxing glove. I doubt he could hit someone hard without a boxing glove and continue to fight. His hand would be mashed also so would the other person if it did connect!
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I think that it was Larry Holmes who connecting with a huge right hand that crashed right onto Tyson's face that broke Tyson's nose in the 3'd round, he didn't even faint.

Later in the 4 round he knocked out Holmes with schoolbook one-two punch. This was 1988 in Tysons prime.

2002 Lennox Lewis landed several clean right punches + uppercuts (useally it requires only one clean hit from lewis "horse-kick right punch) These were clean hits. Basically Tyson took beating from round 2 onwards and knocked him finally out in the eight.

Lewis said later "Some of the punches he took, I was shocked," Lewis said. "I felt them right through to my hand."

I think that Tyson would dominate any no-rules fight completely.

Bruce Lee was the greatest martial artist, but i dont think that he would stand a chance against Tyson, rules or no rules.

edit: spelling

 
No hold barred, anything goes, Tyson in his prime......Lee will lose. Anyone who says that Tyson can't punch harder than Lee is insane.
For one thing, you're talking about getting hit with an arm that will weigh 2-3 times as much as Lee's. So Tyson doesn't even need to have the same fist speed to hurt you worse.

Put it this way: If you were sitting in your car and knew something was going to hit you head-on, would you rather get hit by a Civic running 50 mph, or a Suburban running 40 mph?
I'd take my chances getting hit by the Civic.

Also, Tyson is not all that big, relatively speaking. He's less than 6 feet tall, and in his prime, was in the 215lb range, and EXTREMELY quick. Now I won't sit here and say he was just as quick as a little guy like Lee, but it wouldn't be like Lee was so much quicker that he'd just dance around Tyson, either.
All Tyson would have to do is get hold of Lee for a second, and lights out.
And all that crap about Lee simply disabling Tyson with a shot to the knee or groin, sure, it could happen, but it wouldn't be very easy at all to do without Lee getting hit in return, and I would say Tyson could easily take more of Lee's blows than Lee could take from Tyson.
 
Originally posted by: SammyBoy
Originally posted by: GermyBoy

Mike Tyson in his prime is a rapist. Now he's a freaky scary rapist.
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HAHAHAH



Anyhow, it's really tough to say, but realize this all you idiots who can't read, he did say PRIME. Also those of you who say that Bruce can punch as hard as Mike, Mike is wearing padded gloves while he drops people with 1 punch. If mike caught bruce just right with a bare fist he wouldnt break his nose, he'd break his skull.

The only thing Mike has against him is he's a dumb azz to say the least, so he'd probably charge bruce, get kicked in the leg and have his knee shattered, and that'd be the end of him..


All in all, advantage: WOLVERINE
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Do you even know the purpose of the gloves? Do you think boxers wear gloves so they don't break opponents' nose, and skull? Huh?
 
Originally posted by: Buttzilla
...i meant. Li can't fight in real life. Tyson all the way.
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What the hell are you talking about? Lee can't fight in real life?! The man invented his own damn way of fighting! Bruce Lee all the way, one good punch from Tyson might hurt Bruce a lot but think about it, if Bruce Lee knows the right place to strike all it would take is one punch from him as well...so its whoever is quicker and that, in my opinion, is Bruce.
 
I'm surprised by the people so adament about Tyson winning and that martial arts will have no effect against "a big guy who can punch hard"...

As for the one inch punch, it was real, and he wasn't pushing, whoever doubted that video shouldn't talk about stuff he doesn't know anything about.

Bruce Lee. (I'm sure some of my grammar's horrible...I'm so tired and hung over)
 
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