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Onceler

Onceler

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My mom bought my bro who is a Mac person a server that said on the box quad Xeon processor quad cores.
Turns out he never even checked to see if that was what he got untill I asked him to look(too late to return it) and it turns out he only has dual Xeons dual core.
They STILL do business with the same store that sold it to us.
 
there is no quad xeon mac.

they only make dual xeon mac's. the old ass ones that don't run lion have dual cores. the newer ones have quad or 6-cores.

There's probably one dualie but most people sold off their dual cores when they heard they won't upgrade to lion because they are that old.

I paid a ton for my dual quad-core 4,1(5,1) with HT (16 threads) - $2000 but my company reimbursed me. I love the beast. I can flash it to 5,1 and throw in a pair of 6-core Xeon but honestly i've never encountered the need. Just more ram - to run vm's.


The old junkie models used VERY expensive FB-DIMM. The newer models can rock cheap UDIMM or RDIMM (but not both).

DDR2-FB-DIMM = bad deal
DDR3-UDIMM (or rdimm) = ok.

Keep in mind the latest imac I7 smokes my dual quad-core HT mac pro in many areas that don't scale to 16 threads or NUMA aware. but i can spend $100 and get a nice 5870 or GTX285 or whatever is the next to latest and beef up the drives (going to flash my LSI raid controllers to EFI and rock 4 SSD in raid-0).

Sounds like someone didn't do their everymac.com homework and thought they were getting a deal. Believe it or not people pay alot for old mac's that are pretty that can't run the latest O/S
 
Onceler said:
I never have seen the bill. The box it came in said quad cores
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Was it an actual honest to god Apple Store, or a reseller? If a reseller then maybe they just grabbed a box and your mom/brother were informed that it was a dual|dual when they bought it.
 
Onceler said:
My mom bought my bro who is a Mac person a server that said on the box quad Xeon processor quad cores.
Turns out he never even checked to see if that was what he got untill I asked him to look(too late to return it) and it turns out he only has dual Xeons dual core.
They STILL do business with the same store that sold it to us.
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I would not care if it was "too late" to return it.

If I paid for X, and I got cheaper Y, I would go back and tell the store manager/owner and ask that they make good on either the right box or the right price.

If they refused, I would report them to the authorities.

MotionMan
 
MotionMan said:
I would not care if it was "too late" to return it.

If I paid for X, and I got cheaper Y, I would go back and tell the store manager/owner and ask that they make good on either the right box or the right price.

If they refused, I would report them to the authorities.

MotionMan
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This, if you paid for something and you havn't got it then I'd return it or ring up customer services.
 
vbuggy said:
What, so it's a late-2006 Pro? (dual two-core Xeon)
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His issue is that the box said that it had 4 quad core Xeons. If it is a Mac Pro, that isn't possible since there are no 4 socket Mac Pros, and there are no octo-core Xeon Mac Pros.
 
Onceler said:
I never have seen the bill. The box it came in said quad cores
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Have you seen the box? Are you sure it says "quad" core and not "four" cores? In Apple's Mac Pro marketing they often refer to the total number of cores. Is it possible that your brother was confused and assumed?
 
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TheStu said:
His issue is that the box said that it had 4 quad core Xeons. If it is a Mac Pro, that isn't possible since there are no 4 socket Mac Pros, and there are no octo-core Xeon Mac Pros.
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How does four quad core = octo core? Four quad cores would be 16 cores.

Regardless, I'm on the same page as most here, if he got less than he paid for... hell should be raised.
 
the big thing is the oldest mac pro's can't run lion - which would suck. the mac pro 4,1 and 5,1 series can run lion and probably a few more generations of OSX - but the older mac pro - no lion - maybe with a hack if you are lucky.
 
Emulex said:
the big thing is the oldest mac pro's can't run lion - which would suck. the mac pro 4,1 and 5,1 series can run lion and probably a few more generations of OSX - but the older mac pro - no lion - maybe with a hack if you are lucky.
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Got any proof that a Mac Pro 1,1 won't run Lion? From here:

http://www.apple.com/macosx/specs.html

General requirements

Mac computer with an Intel Core 2 Duo, Core i3, Core i5, Core i7, or Xeon processor
2GB of memory
OS X v10.6.6 or later (v10.6.8 recommended)
7GB of available space
Some features require an Apple ID; terms apply.

I've got a 1,1 Mac Pro with upgraded Xeon quad cores running Lion just fine.
 
Paperlantern said:
How does four quad core = octo core? Four quad cores would be 16 cores.

Regardless, I'm on the same page as most here, if he got less than he paid for... hell should be raised.
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Because they do make dual socket systems. 2 sockets, each with 8 cores, equals 16 cores. That was my point.
 
TheStu said:
Because they do make dual socket systems. 2 sockets, each with 8 cores, equals 16 cores. That was my point.
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Right, I realize they do make them, but we weren't talking about a dual proc system. THe issue at hand was about four quad core procs. Anyway, i'm not trying to start anything, apologies, i was just confused for a second.
 
2 sockets, 4 cores each(4,1 or 5,1) with HT or 6 cores(5,1) with HT

no 16 core, hyperthreading doesn't count as a core
 
Any updates onceler? Curious as to how this is all going down. Sounds like an honest mistake, but if there was truly an error than I would also raise hell, as has been suggested.
 
I saw the box it said quad core Xeons
and it might have been just double socket but it was definatly quad cores that it said on the box
 
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