Bronx cop assasinated

[Phynaz]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...le-sitting-in-a-police-vehicle-officials-say/

Let the victim blaming begin!

 

[Commodus]

It's sad all around. Both because police officers are more likely to have to worry about attacks like this (although the piece notes that the increase in deaths is mostly due to accidents and illness) and because the "all lives matter" camp will use incidents like this to justify police abuses of power. I'm sorry, but unnecessary violence from one camp does not excuse unnecessary violence from the other.

 

[theeedude]

Innocent bystander was shot. Police bullets?

 

[Phynaz]

Innocent bystander was shot. Police bullets?

Are you on crack or meth this week?

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Are you on crack or meth this week?

A third party was shot when they were pursuing the suspect. I believe he is asking if it's been determined whose gun the shots game from.

 

[theeedude]

I am not a cop or a criminal. I am an innocent bystander who doesn't want to get shot. So I relate to the innocent bystander who got shot, and I want to know if the cops are the ones who shot him.

 

[Phynaz]

A third party was shot when they were pursuing the suspect. I believe he is asking if it's been determined whose gun the shots game from.

I know about the bystander, but that's not what senseamp is really asking. He's asking if he can go on another anti-police rage.

He could have asked "has it been determined where the bullet that hit the bystander came from". But that doesn't put the spin on it that he wants.

 

[Phynaz]

I am not a....criminal.

Doubtful.

 

[theeedude]

Do you want to know if the innocent bystander was shot by the cops or not?

 

[Phynaz]

Do you want to know if the innocent bystander was shot by the cops or not?

Not really.

 

[theeedude]

Not really.

Only Blue Lives Matter?

 

[Phynaz]

Only Blue Lives Matter?

Bystander wasn't killed, let alone assassinated.

Can you at least try to be a little transparent? You're not even trying. BTW, both cop and killer are black. Go ahead and spin that to be racist or Blue Lives Matter or whatever nuttiness comes to your mind.

You can't seem to wrap your head around the fact that Public Safety Officer was shot down in cold blood in her own neighborhood. She worked where she lived, protecting her own neighbors.

 

[xthetenth]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news...le-sitting-in-a-police-vehicle-officials-say/

Let the victim blaming begin!

Nope! The person who did this is a criminal. Criminals get chased down and if they don't get shot resisting arrest they're arrested, tried, found guilty and put in prison.

As opposed to people who shoot people who pose no threat to them but do so while wearing a police uniform. Those people get indicted, get a paid vacation, occasionally get wildly successful gofundme campaigns, and maybe if they're incredibly unlucky actually get tried.

People will treat these two things as being exactly equal and overlook the difference between the results or that police are entrusted to protect and serve, theoretically someone other than themselves.

Bystander wasn't killed, let alone assassinated.

Death is death, and is what police should be trying to prevent, not cause.

 

[theeedude]

Bystander wasn't killed, let alone assassinated.

Can you at least try to be a little transparent? You're not even trying. BTW, both cop and killer are black. Go ahead and spin that to be racist.

Bystander was shot. By pure luck he wasn't killed.
We already know the guy shot police, and in return he got paid administrative leave killed. The main question remaining is who shot the innocent bystander.

 

[Phynaz]

Nope! The person who did this is a criminal. Criminals get chased down and if they don't get shot resisting arrest they're arrested, tried, found guilty and put in prison.

As opposed to people who shoot people who pose no threat to them but do so while wearing a police uniform. Those people get indicted, get a paid vacation, occasionally get wildly successful gofundme campaigns, and maybe if they're incredibly unlucky actually get tried.

People will treat these two things as being exactly equal and overlook the difference between the results or that police are entrusted to protect and serve, theoretically someone other than themselves.



Death is death, and is what police should be trying to prevent, not cause.

And here we are, the first! 12 posts to "cop deserved it".

What a fucking lowlife you are.

 

[Phynaz]

Bystander was shot. By pure luck he wasn't killed.
We already know the guy shot police, and in return he got killed. The main question remaining is who shot the innocent bystander.

I know, you're clicking links like crazy hoping it was a cop. Release the rage, asshole.

 

[theeedude]

I know, you're clicking links like crazy hoping it was a cop. Release the rage, asshole.

The cops won't tell us if it was them until some internal investigation that takes a year when everyone has forgotten about it. But we need to be immediately outraged that one of theirs got shot and suck up their side of the story.

 

[Phynaz]

The cops won't tell us if it was them until some internal investigation that takes a year when everyone has forgotten about it. But we need to be immediately outraged that one of theirs got shot and suck up their side of the story.

Aha, there we go. Cop killed in cold blood, and your not upset because a person was killed, but because "one of theirs" (whatever that means) gets in the news.

 

[theeedude]

Aha, there we go. Cop killed in cold blood, and your not upset because a person was killed, but because "one of theirs" (whatever that means) gets in the news.

I am upset an innocent bystander got shot and the media doesn't care who shot him.

 

[xthetenth]

And here we are, the first! 12 posts to "cop deserved it".

What a fucking lowlife you are.

You sir, are either illiterate, or are a lying shitstain. Which is it?

When a person shoots someone, they are treated as criminals, as they should be. For some reason, you and yours feel the need to set up a false equivalence between that and police, who are supposed to be protecting and serving, who shoot people and are treated as if they are under no obligation to refrain from summary execution if they're at all worried for their safety. I am saying that this rhetorical trick you pull is morally repugnant and excuses murder. Fuck you for using the death of someone as ammunition for excusing the deaths of other people.

If (and only if) you simply could not understand the words I was saying and show a good faith effort to demonstrate that you have at least engaged with the argument, I take it back.

Aha, there we go. Cop killed in cold blood, and your not upset because a person was killed, but because "one of theirs" (whatever that means) gets in the news.

You're the one playing up someone's death for political gain and getting outraged at the possibility of someone else being injured detracting from it. Face it, you don't give the barest shred of a fuck about the policeman except as he serves to further your narrative.

 

[woolfe9998]

For those curious about the bystander, whoever it was, was shot in the stomach, and they do not know yet whether the bullet that struck the bystander was from police or the shooter. Meaning there was gunfire exchanged between the two.

https://heavy.com/news/2017/07/mios...icer-killed-age-alexander-bonds-assassinated/

 

[Commodus]

Can we get back on track, please?

It's possible to sympathize with more than one camp here, and it's okay to not have all the answers right away. You can mourn the officer's death while still supporting Black Lives Matter; you can be concerned about the injured bystander without assuming that it's due to either fiendish police recklessness or an out-of-control gunman.

 

[HomerJS]

If Trump did it his supporters wouldn't care.

According to Trump

 

[xthetenth]

Can we get back on track, please?

It's possible to sympathize with more than one camp here, and it's okay to not have all the answers right away. You can mourn the officer's death while still supporting Black Lives Matter; you can be concerned about the injured bystander without assuming that it's due to either fiendish police recklessness or an out-of-control gunman.

The entire premise of the thread is Phynaz asserting that that is in fact untrue. However, this direction is a much better one.

 

[john3850]

One of my daughters was a police officer that started out in the 43th precinct in the bronx or close to where the officer was assassinated.
During her 4 years in the Bronx it seemed she was going to somebody funnel every few months.
My daughter left bronx for a better paying job with the yonkers police dept.