Brock Lesnar: Mayo Clinic bound and "may never fight again."

[Miramonti]

He is fighting in Strikeforce because he had a contract with them. And when it was time to switch over, he still had contractual obligations with m-1 as his promoter which wont let him fight in UFC.

The whole thing is kinda silly, but everyone wants their piece of the pie.

Fedor had never fought in the UFC before because Dana was unwilling to make many concessions to the contract (until recently, although too late). He likes to keep a tight reign over his fighters.

It goes beyond reigning over his fighters. He'd only have Fedor for a few fights, but its his 'vision' for what he wants UFC to be that killed it imo. Co-promoting gives publicity to other mma entities than the UFC, and that's the last thing he wants to open the door to.

Iirc, he owns 10% of it, and he wants to build the UFC as high as it can go. Fwiw, he's done a helluva job so far. Hypothetically, if a Lesnar/Fedor fight goes down thru a co-promotion, and Fedor wins, UFC image also takes a hit when they undeniably won't have the title holder and best HW in the world, and I think he wants to avoid that possibility, and/or capitalize it if Fedor fights for UFC.

 

[Miramonti]

Under UFC rules one tap is enough.

I'm still getting used to vBulletin...which keystrokes create the facepalm emoticon again?...

 

[Druidx]

Yes under the rules a single tap is all that's required but show me a single fight which was stopped from a single tap. Sure you may be able to find one but it would be the exception not the general rule. The refs normally wait to see multiple taps to ensure a good stoppage, otherwise they run the risk of stopping fights where the fighter was actually just trying to defend the submission.
Those two "taps" by Lesnar could easily been mistaken as him trying to push Mir off. I think Mazagatti sucks as a Ref but he was doing his job that match. Mazagatti was on top of the actuion and stopped the fight as soon as it was obvious Lesnar tapped.

LOL at the people talking about Lesnars knockout power. How can you brag about his knockout power when he's never knocked anyone out? I don't consider TKO or stoppages due to strikes the same as a knockout. Sure he's a big powerhouse and I wouldn't want to get hit by him but there are 145lb. bantamweights with knockout wins.
If Lesnar ever won by KO, it would be luck. He would probably win all his fights by TKO or GnP, not that there is anything wrong with it.

 

[QueBert]

Maybe Lesnar and yourself should pull your heads out of your asses. Why should the ref stop the fight on 2 taps? Lesnar should learn the rules and tap 3 times next time. The ref saw 2 and waited for a 3rd (watch the video again and you'll see that). Not the ref's fault for Lesnar being a dumbass noob in his first fight.

If Lesnar comes back, I hope he gets his butt beat multiple times. He's a whiner.

I watched the fight again last night, he tapped 5 times, there was a slight pause between 2-3 but the rules are 3 taps = stop the fight. So 3 taps from Brock and Maz is 2 feet away staring like a dumb ass and not moving. You call Brock a whiner but he's not complaining that he didn't tap and Maz unjustly stopped the fight. He's saying it took him 5 taps for Maz to actually do something. Even then he was slightly slow at pulling them apart. I'd whine too. Brock tapped to signify he was beaten, and Maz took his sweet time. I think he was in the right to be upset, he was pissed off thought, it wasn't even whining

 

[alkemyst]

pwned. Nice some pencil neck fuck calling a heavy weight a whiner though.

 

[QueBert]

pwned. Nice some pencil neck fuck calling a heavy weight a whiner though.

This is what Dana White has to say about Steve

"Mazzagatti, as a referee?" White said. "This fucking guy shouldn't even be watching MMA on TV, let alone refereeing it. I think he's the worst ref in the history of any fight business, ever. He's horrible. We don't pick the refs. The athletic commission does. Those guys are picked by the government. It's not that I don't like him, he's a nice guy. He's an absolute nice guy, he has no business whatsoever being anywhere near mixed martial arts."

What a lot of people don't realize is Dana doesn't employ Steve, or chose him to ref when UFC events come up. It's all the State Athletic Commission. Steve makes horrible calls on the regular. One fight he'll stand up Lesnar for shots to the back of the head after 2 blows. And claim "I warned him" which nobody heard going on to say it was too loud for anyone to hear him lol. Then in a GSP fight he'll warn about shots to the back of the head 5 times in 1 round and not stand them up once. Dana hates him with all his heart as a ref, and I'm positive if he had any control over who and who didn't ref UFC events Steve wouldn't even be allowed in the building. The Lesnar fight had at 2 horrible calls on his part, but the crazy thing is it wasn't even his worse ref job. He has screwed some fighters to the point I believe he has money on the fight and needs to try and fix the outcome. Brock refuses to fight any fight where Maz is the ref and I don't blame him.

 

[alkemyst]

I am in agreement with you, talking about Frozenballs above.

 

[Josh]

This is what Dana White has to say about Steve

"Mazzagatti, as a referee?" White said. "This fucking guy shouldn't even be watching MMA on TV, let alone refereeing it. I think he's the worst ref in the history of any fight business, ever. He's horrible. We don't pick the refs. The athletic commission does. Those guys are picked by the government. It's not that I don't like him, he's a nice guy. He's an absolute nice guy, he has no business whatsoever being anywhere near mixed martial arts."

What a lot of people don't realize is Dana doesn't employ Steve, or chose him to ref when UFC events come up. It's all the State Athletic Commission. Steve makes horrible calls on the regular. One fight he'll stand up Lesnar for shots to the back of the head after 2 blows. And claim "I warned him" which nobody heard going on to say it was too loud for anyone to hear him lol. Then in a GSP fight he'll warn about shots to the back of the head 5 times in 1 round and not stand them up once. Dana hates him with all his heart as a ref, and I'm positive if he had any control over who and who didn't ref UFC events Steve wouldn't even be allowed in the building. The Lesnar fight had at 2 horrible calls on his part, but the crazy thing is it wasn't even his worse ref job. He has screwed some fighters to the point I believe he has money on the fight and needs to try and fix the outcome. Brock refuses to fight any fight where Maz is the ref and I don't blame him.

'Cause he'll probably get so angry and punch his mustache off.

 

[TurtleCrusher]

This. Dana White tried his best to get Fedor but there was contract issues.

Scholzpdx, for you to say that Fedor is a b-list fighter...you clearly have NO idea what you are talking about. Fedor may be THE best MMA fighter in the world. There's no evidence for you to say that Brock is "better" than him. Brock has fought 5 fights. One he has lost. Fedor has fought 33 and lost one.

Read about him a little before you come to such snap judgements, he's a fucking beast:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fedor_Emelianenko

I didn't call him a B-list fighter. He's fighting B-list fighters. Read it again. I know exactly who he is. Fuck off for posting a wiki link.

I get the stats, but that doesnt mean shit. Fedor vs Lesnar = great fight. But Fedor would be physically over-matched. I don't think anyone actually realizes how powerful Lesnar actually is. Watch his fights and you'll see it.

 

[nerp]

Love the steroid defenders in this thread. Pussies.

 

[umbrella39]

Love the steroid defenders in this thread. Pussies.

He was freakishly big in high school and got even bigger in college. He would have been subject to dozens of random test while wrestling at Minnesota especially before, during, and after winning the heavyweight NCAA championship in 2000. You saying he's been juicing since he was a teen?

 

[waggy]

He was freakishly big in high school and got even bigger in college. He would have been subject to dozens of random test while wrestling at Minnesota especially before, during, and after winning the heavyweight NCAA championship in 2000. You saying he's been juicing since he was a teen?

yeap. you are tested in high school (if at a high level) and you get tested a lot in college.


he was huge before WWE. though i do suspect he was useing them in WWE. he got bigger and a lot more muscle.

Though after WWE he was in the NFL (who does test for them) before he was cut.


he may have done them but i really doubt he does them now or they are the cause of his illness.

 

[alkemyst]

Love the steroid defenders in this thread. Pussies.

*shiver* please don't hurt me brah.