Broadwell-EP multiplier locked or not?

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kijun93

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I was thinking about 6700k but it's as expensive as 5820k where I live. So I'd rather get 5820k with Asrock x99 Taichi.
Thanks for your opinion.

Yeah, Maybe I should get i7 for my new gaming pc :)
 

ArtForz

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xeon_e5_v4.jpg
Umm, is that screenshot supposed to prove anything?
Because if it is, this
bDJhoGp.png

would be a multiplier locked E5-1660 at 48x100 ...
 
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rchunter

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Umm, is that screenshot supposed to prove anything?
Because if it is, this
bDJhoGp.png

would be a multiplier locked E5-1660 at 48x100 ...


Yes well, you can believe me or not I don't care. So HWinfo isn't really accurate....Broadwell-EP v4 is locked.
 

ArtForz

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Yes well, you can believe me or not I don't care. So HWinfo isn't really accurate....Broadwell-EP v4 is locked.
Apologies for my wording, English isn't my first language.

I do believe all retail BDW-EP including 1S are locked.

I do not believe those fields in HWiNFO screenshot can be used to show that, and - sorry if I misunderstood - to me it appeared that was the intention of the image.

I do think there's a lot of confusion and misinformation about unlocked Xeon, and that someone reading this thread, interpreting that image that way and using the wrong tool to determine if some CPU is unlocked won't help that situation.
 

rchunter

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Apologies for my wording, English isn't my first language.

I do believe all retail BDW-EP including 1S are locked.

I do not believe those fields in HWiNFO screenshot can be used to show that, and - sorry if I misunderstood - to me it appeared that was the intention of the image.

I do think there's a lot of confusion and misinformation about unlocked Xeon, and that someone reading this thread, interpreting that image that way and using the wrong tool to determine if some CPU is unlocked won't help that situation.

Yeah my bad....
 

kijun93

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I do believe this man and Xeon v4 locked.
I need to get a workstation anyway so I ordered 1660 v4
It seems like hwinfo shows all the cpus the same result even the locked ones.
 

rchunter

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I do believe this man and Xeon v4 locked.
I need to get a workstation anyway so I ordered 1660 v4
It seems like hwinfo shows all the cpus the same result even the locked ones.

Nice, congrats.
That's the end of the unlocked xeons from now on probably. Kind of sucks but oh well. At least Intel still sells unlocked I7's.
 

kijun93

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I've got a good news for you guys.
I have ordered Xeon from China and It is unlocked.
It seems to support ECC ram as well.


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I've been playing with a Xeon E5-2699v4 on an Asrock X99 Extreme 4. It is ratio locked and appears to be TDP limit locked. The memory is totally locked too - I couldn't get DDR4 to run above 2400MHz although I could slightly speed up the memory by playing with the timings. I can adjust the FSB to ~104MHz and then above that, it's unstable. I played with the BCLK straps and that didn't seem to do anything. I changed it and the value that I changed to seemed to be ignored.
 

kijun93

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I've been researching broadwell-e processors and found out the answer.

1650 v4 es is also locked.
but 1660 v4 es is unlocked.
i assume that 1660 v4 retail is probably unlocked but 1650 v4 retail is locked as same as engineering sample.
it seems like Intel has decided to unlock from 1660 v4 for some reason.
i hope anyone who has 1660 v4 comfirm my theory soon.
 

kijun93

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i've ordered two 1660 v4 es and both are unlocked.
1650 v4 es is on the way and i figured out its locked from japanese ebay website.
the seller said multiplier is locked.
 
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Interesting. To my understanding though, doesn't HW-E OC better anyways? I wish Intel would be a bit more OC friendly.
 

kijun93

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Interesting. To my understanding though, doesn't HW-E OC better anyways? I wish Intel would be a bit more OC friendly.
i was wrong.
i confirmed that 1650 v4 es is also unlocked.
so i guess only retail ones are locked.
usually intel locks down their es xeons though. weirdly es xeons are unlocked and retail xeons are locked this time.

1650 v4 es is QK3M and 1660 v4 es is QK3S, which is unlocked and supports ecc/reg ram.
also 6900k es is QK3P, qs is QKVP.
 

lovesetcpu

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How far you could clock your 1660v4 ES, 1.2V seems to be high for 4GHz?
Which Mainboard you ended up with?

Any problems?
 

kadza

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Hi I was flipping whole internet to find weather 1660v4 is unlocked you state that they are so can you please source the links where can i get the GPU and is it compatible with Asus Rampage V Edition 10 EATX or do i have to get WS motherboard.
 

kijun93

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How far you could clock your 1660v4 ES, 1.2V seems to be high for 4GHz?
Which Mainboard you ended up with?

Any problems?
i have ordered two and one of them died.
first one 4.2ghz at 1.32v and 4.3ghz at 1.4v
second one 4.2ghz at 1.36v which died.

my friend got it 4.3ghz at 1.35v
 

kijun93

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Hi I was flipping whole internet to find weather 1660v4 is unlocked you state that they are so can you please source the links where can i get the GPU and is it compatible with Asus Rampage V Edition 10 EATX or do i have to get WS motherboard.
it seems to be out of stock or higher price now since the sellers know its unlocked.
 
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Tyemcho

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it seems to be out of stock or higher price now since the sellers know its unlocked.
based on you posts i also purchased 1660 v4 es from chinesee seller. im not getting 4.0 stable even at 1.35. can you ask you friend about setting in bios? thanks