Broadwell-EP lives

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Straight from this technical session at IDF: https://hubb.blob.core.windows.net/...d4WXXX4RiXJuc=&se=2015-08-22T08:30:05Z&sp=rwd

Bits 'n Chips seems to have gotten it wrong this time.
 

NTMBK

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That slide only talks in product names, not architecture names. If Broadwell-EP really were dead, I would expect them to call Skylake-EP "v4".

EDIT: Though I doubt it really is cancelled. Server vendors get pissed at that sort of change.
 
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That slide only talks in product names, not architecture names. If Broadwell-EP really were dead, I would expect them to call Skylake-EP "v4".

We know that Purley (i.e. Skylake EP) supports faster DDR4 speeds than DDR4-2400 based on the earlier leaks:

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MrTeal

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That slide only talks in product names, not architecture names. If Broadwell-EP really were dead, I would expect them to call Skylake-EP "v4".

EDIT: Though I doubt it really is cancelled. Server vendors get pissed at that sort of change.

From those slides, you can see them call the LGA-1151 Xeons "Intel® Xeon® Processor E3-1200 v5 Family", so they're using the v5 nomenclature for Skylake. Even if Broadwell-EP got canceled, I can't imagine that they would call the mainstream Skylake Xeons v5 but the Skylake-EP ones v4.

Who knows though, they insist on the stupidity of incrementing the first number in their desktop processors for the E series so that SB-E and IB seem to come from the same series, as do Haswell-E and BDW, etc.
 

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Probably the same as Ivy Bridge-E did over Sandy Bridge-E; lower power usage and slightly better performance-per-clock, but not much else. At most, I'd expect the 6960X to have a higher base clock than the current 5960X.
 
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Probably the same as Ivy Bridge-E did over Sandy Bridge-E; lower power usage and slightly better performance-per-clock, but not much else. At most, I'd expect the 6960X to have a higher base clock than the current 5960X.

Yeah. I don't think I'll be upgrading my HSW-E to BDW-E, especially since HSW-E is crazy fast. Next stop will be a full platform upgrade to Skylake-E.
 

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If nothing else, it might give some insight as to whether or not the eDRAM is hurting overclocking on the desktop Broadwells.
 

Ajay

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What will Broadwell offer X99 enthusiasts over the current Haswell line?

It's really hard to tell. It's been clear for a while that Intel's server CPUs will have a larger design team dedicated to them to more effectively address that specific market. It's not clear to me, at this time, if BDW-EP will be as significantly differentiated as SKL-EP seems to be.

With BDW-E coming out much later than BDW, it's possible some of the overclocking limitations may have been overcome (that is, the yield curve will be much improved). We'll just have to wait and see.
 

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Perhaps the 8-core SKU will move down the price spectrum? So you have a 6 core 6820k, 8 core 6930k, and 8 core 6960X.