broadband is not what it crack up to be is it?

[cuteybunny]

should be renamed to leechband or something like that. most people have upload speed of 128Kbit or so which is IMO very poor. i can no longer take this from sharing files on Direct Connect that take at least 22 hours to send 600meg of files. and people with T1 or T3 is very rare to run into and stop me from downloading anyway even if it take 2 hours.
While ISDN is 128k both way broadband is not much differences.
if we cant send as fast as we download what is the use?
I rather have 1mbit/768k/or 512K both way then 1.5mbit/128kbit or 3mbit/128k.
much like the 56K v.90 that can only receive 53k and only send 26kbps.
with all these leeching capability that is cheap, it does us no good without decent upload speed.
or maybe they need another 5 years to come out with better broadband solution?

 

[dc]

yes we need better broadband solutions. like fiber optics or something. 128 capped upload sucks so much.

 

[christoph83]

Although I agree with the uploads part I couldnt live without broadband.

 

[Katana]

Wasn't there just some new standard agreed on to raise u/l on cable?

 

[JeremiahTheGreat]

spare a thought for all those on Telstra Bigpond Cable internet.. 3GB a month + 19cents per MB, 512kb/s up and 256kB/s down..

And you're talking about 1mBit?

*cries*

 

[ChuckWits]

If you need to have upload speed faster than 128Kb, then you need to get SDSL or a T1 (or higher) line.

 

[cuteybunny]

One was truly amaze about their download speed until they try to share files with another broadband user, now comes the horror.
well even 256Kbit upload speed is not so good, you still average about 20K/sec upload and if it 128K it is 10K and thats is the bottom pit for it. a protocol like v.92 could help the upload alot if they would implement this as well.maybe then they can up the upload speed to say 1.48mbit?
the truth is, there not much to download on the internet. it more fun sharing files that you can't find anywhere else like movies, mp3, etc. I alway dreamed of 10mbit/10mbit connection and we're still far from that, thought before it become widely available. A T1 of 1.5/1.5 mbit is not for home user but for businesses only/school/ corporate use and that only 150K/sec not really that fast and it is 599.99 a month. thats $5,400 a year vs DSL and Cable of 500-600 dollar a year and that can add up alot in a few years.

 

[kreno]

Actually 128kilobit up is approx 15KB/sec up... but anyway... Sprint Broadband Direct supports 170Kilobit up... not that this is any better... they implement these caps so that people DON'T upload a lot a stuff so that it doesn't bog down their network. Lower upload = more users able to be provided with service. And I don't know who you're going through but I personally get on avg a download speed of 600 - 900KB/sec... Weirdo! lol! I also have many friends across the country and they all get at least 450KB/sec most of the time during peak hours so I suggest you get in contact with your company. I wouldn't trade in these download speeds for the world! But the upload does need improvement. I will definitely agree with you on that one.

<edit>Also, check out newsgroups, they have much more interesting downloads than normally available on the net. Also, you can't get 50 - 70 ping online with modems man.</edit>

 

[kreno]

<< spare a thought for all those on Telstra Bigpond Cable internet.. 3GB a month + 19cents per MB, 512kb/s up and 256kB/s down..

And you're talking about 1mBit?

*cries* >>



Sounds a lot like DirecPC's Equal Download Agreement... lol. Download more than like 200MB in the span of like 4 hours and you get capped to sub dialup speeds... suck.

 

[stuck4life]

well, when i first got cable internet (june this year), i was getting 700kbps downloads quite often and now i'd be lucky to get 400kbps downloads....who know how fast (or slow) it'll be in another 5 months....

 

[Snapster]

At least you can get broadband! No matter how fast you've got you always want more. Your *Slow* 10k/s upload is still faster than 2-4k/s with a 56k modem.

 

[MatthewMaes]

My dad works for ComCast on the internet part, and he made our cable modem have 12 IPs and T1 both ways. hehe

 

[Adul]

128 = 16kb
256 = 32kb

I am capped at 32 KB but I often get sustianed just peaking over 32KB.

 

[cuteybunny]

sweet, i guess these limitation are set by the company rather then the limitation of the technology itself.
before, most people have little restriction of very high upload speed say 384kbit or more.
anyway i want to ya that even thought my connection on adsl panel says 1472/256
my best speed test is only 1228/214 which is really not so good IMO.
I've seen better like 1457/257, 1508/267 from other users.




<< My dad works for ComCast on the internet part, and he made our cable modem have 12 IPs and T1 both ways. hehe >>

 

[salsal]

my best speed test is only 1228/214

Compare to mine your connection is good. I got ~700/27 last night at 9:30 pm and they promised UP TO 50 times better than 56k. Go figure.

 

[kreno]

<< My dad works for ComCast on the internet part, and he made our cable modem have 12 IPs and T1 both ways. hehe >>



Me thinx you're full of BS

I believe those caps are controlled under a global setting for the routers from what I've read...

 

[Flatline]

I'm not sure about that...my upload time is a lot faster than what you guys are talking about, and one of the techies at my ISP said that he and a couple of coworkers fiddled with the paperwork in order to allocate more bandwidth to my apartment complex (not sure if I believe that, but my upload is more like 500-600 and my down is usually around 1250)

 

[Cuular]

The caps for cablemodems at least are set by the cable backbone speed for the area you are in. Depending on where you live and what your cable company is the caps can change. For mediaone/roadrunner/att in west los angeles, the cap is 8Mb both ways. The typical home customer gets 4Mb down 384k up. By buying business service and paying a premium over the 39.99 a month you can get all the way up to the cap. But the 8Mb both ways is a couple grand a month.

 

[salsal]

"""""The caps for cablemodems at least are set by the cable backbone speed for the area you are in. Depending on where you live and what your cable company is the caps can change. For mediaone/roadrunner/att in west los angeles, the cap is 8Mb both ways. The typical home customer gets 4Mb down 384k up. By buying business service and paying a premium over the 39.99 a month you can get all the way up to the cap. But the 8Mb both ways is a couple grand a month.""""""

So, I am being ripped off by comcast@home by paying them $45 a month and getting 700/27? I think the cap is 3000/128 but you will never ever get that.

 

[cuteybunny]

but i rather have 768kbit both way then 1.5mbit/256kbit, this way the download doesnt get clogged up because I am uploading something, which suffers greatly with very high latency.
could be that the equipment they use for T1, T3 and OC1 etc are much more advanced then broadband.
\ / 1.5mbit fast download
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\ / 384Kbit varies with provider but most have reduce our upload to 128kbit because
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\ / 256kbit
\ / 128kbit
my friend who use to have 384K upload speed is now reduced to 128Kbit says that his down speed use to be 800k/sec and is now reduced to 3mbit/sec as well.

 

[cuteybunny]

128k= 10-13
256k= 20-26
that is, if you not downloading anything,
if you are, it's like:
128k= 10 or less
256k= 20 or less

if you getting 32K/sec then it is likely to be capped at 384K and you best is like 38K/sec because
as you can see broadband doesn't use a compression protocol like dialup modem, say: connected at 26.4kbps, you get 29-30kbit/sec.




<< 128 = 16kb
256 = 32kb

I am capped at 32 KB but I often get sustianed just peaking over 32KB. >>

 

[Rahminator]

I will be switching to Optimum Online in a few months cause they give you 10/1 (Yes, 10 megabits down, 1 megabit up) for $30 a month. With the right modem, people on that service get actual speeds of 8 mbit down (1 MB!) and a lil bit over 100 KB up. Holy s[/b]hit, I can't wait.

 

[splice]

Compression is not at the packet level of TCP/IP. It is left up to the TCP/IP application (TCP/IP stack model location 5 or OSI model stack location 6) to compress it's own data before it's packaged. The packets are not compressed most likely do to the fact that having to uncompress the frame at each node would increase latency. I believe the V.XX PPProtocols compress the entire packet or atleast the PPP header information. This is partly why dial-up modems have such high latency, esp. win/softModems.