British May Face Internet Ban For Illegal Downloads

[techs]

http://www.tomshardware.com/20...for_illegal_downloads/

London (England) - The government is proposing a plan that would lock up all Internet access for users who are found to be illegally downloaing music and videos.

Britain "will move to legislate to require internet service providers to take action on illegal file sharing," according to reports from the government attained by news wire AFP.

The government has reportedly set the new law into motion by putting its proposal on "Green Paper", the first step to adding legislative changes to the country's code of law.

The proposal suggests a "three strikes" system, where the first time a user would be warned via e-mail to stop downloading copyrighted content. The second time he would face a temporary suspension of the Internet connection, and then as a final action would face a total blackout of online access.



I suppose it was inevitable.
Now who will the RIAA sue?

 

[CanOWorms]

It's only the natural progression from civilians being monitored everywhere you go outside to being monitored by the government online. God bless the Queen.

 

[StageLeft]

Block out for how long?

I really think we need an "England going to hell" forum. There are too many of these stories for me to keep track of without one.

 

[jonks]

So the gov't shouldn't be able to outlaw flagrant copyright violation? I don't think they should throw it on the ISPs, but if the govt wants to conduct some sting to fight piracy, go for it.

They don't have to track every person to see if anyone breaks the law, they just have to track illegal activity and go from there.

Example, if the gov't wants to catch kiddie porn traders, it doesn't follow around every man and woman in the country to see if they trade kiddie porn, they just go to places where kiddie porn is traded and bust the people who show up. same thing here but digital.

http://arstechnica.com/news.ar...ory-isp-filtering.html
RIAA chief: We don't see a need for mandatory ISP filtering

 

[Harvey]

Originally posted by: techs

Now who will the RIAA sue?

< sarcasm (in case you can't figure it out) >

Oh, nozers!!! It's the big bad jack booted monsters who want to prevent you from stealing other peoples intellectual property!!! We know we're all thieves. How could they? :shocked:

< /sarcasm (in case you can't figure it out) >

How does this action in the UK have anything to do with the Recording Industry Association of America? :roll:

 

[halik]

Haha very V for Vandetta-esque. I guess Brits are even more apathetic than Americans...

 

[halik]

Originally posted by: CanOWorms
It's only the natural progression from civilians being monitored everywhere you go outside to being monitored by the government online. God bless the Queen.

Never, never dismiss slippery slope warnings. Erosion of civil liberties is the direct result of apathy.

On the CCTV note, I find it amazing that the sense of that being 'wrong' is ingrained in every American. It's a testament to this country's heritage.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Block out for how long?

I really think we need an "England going to hell" forum. There are too many of these stories for me to keep track of without one.

Don't believe everything you read.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Block out for how long?

I really think we need an "England going to hell" forum. There are too many of these stories for me to keep track of without one.

Don't believe everything you read.

This is Tom's Hardware. It's not like he's not been right before, but if you're following any contemporary news you know this is just one of countless similar stories coming out of England these days. It's becoming quite the little sh*t hole. A lot of ex-pats cannot believe what's happening to it.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
This is Tom's Hardware. It's not like he's not been right before, but if you're following any contemporary news you know this is just one of countless similar stories coming out of England these days. It's becoming quite the little sh*t hole. A lot of ex-pats cannot believe what's happening to it.

I live in England so I've got a pretty good idea of what's going on

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: Skoorb
This is Tom's Hardware. It's not like he's not been right before, but if you're following any contemporary news you know this is just one of countless similar stories coming out of England these days. It's becoming quite the little sh*t hole. A lot of ex-pats cannot believe what's happening to it.

I live in England so I've got a pretty good idea of what's going on

Then I'm preaching to the choir.

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Then I'm preaching to the choir.

Pretty much, although the country was a shambles before Labour started getting really stupid and leaking these crap go-nowhere "policy idea" stories. They get picked up by the foreign media and it gets turned into some ZOMGTHEHUMANITY1984 attack on the UK. As I said in OT, they just want to pressure the ISP's into signing up to a voluntary agreement so the government doesn't have to deal with legislating it. Then it looks like we've done something about it (albeit with zero effect) and everything carries on as normal.

 

[StageLeft]

Originally posted by: MmmSkyscraper

Originally posted by: Skoorb
Then I'm preaching to the choir.

Pretty much, although the country was a shambles before Labour started getting really stupid and leaking these crap go-nowhere "policy idea" stories. They get picked up by the foreign media and it gets turned into some ZOMGTHEHUMANITY1984 attack on the UK. As I said in OT, they just want to pressure the ISP's into signing up to a voluntary agreement so the government doesn't have to deal with legislating it. Then it looks like we've done something about it (albeit with zero effect) and everything carries on as normal.

But some of these go-nowhere ideas do go places, such as the ability to be held without charge for 28 days.

 

[ItsOnlyMe]

Originally posted by: Skoorb

But some of these go-nowhere ideas do go places, such as the ability to be held without charge for 28 days.

Still a better option than Guantanamo Bay

 

[MmmSkyscraper]

Originally posted by: Skoorb
But some of these go-nowhere ideas do go places, such as the ability to be held without charge for 28 days.

They definitely wanted that to happen from day 1 and I wasn't complaining. No-one I know had anything negative to say about it either.

This ISP thing is going nowhere, the ISP's would much rather regulate themselves than have the government interfering. They just needed a kick up the arse and the government had to look like it was doing something to silence the whiners.

 

[piasabird]

www.theregister.com

Nice site for news and witty humor.

They have a nice kind of tongue in cheek way of discussing issues. The British sarcasm and humor is brutal and to the point. In its own way it is kind a refreshing look at the news and takes stabs at our silly political correctness.

I have seen a lot of interesting stories coming out the EU and the UK lately. For instance there was some kind of story promoting that IP addresses were a kind private issue and should not be released.

Then there was another story about how this ruling decided that downloading copyrighted material was a Civil offense and not a criminal offense so ISP's can not be required to release the information, because no crime had been committed.

I think the lawyers in the UK and the EU are a lot more creative.

 

[palehorse]

MEANWHILE, ELSEWHERE IN THE UK...

Man arrested at gunpoint after police mistake his MP3 player for a gun

Armed police held an innocent mechanic at gunpoint when they mistook his MP3 player for a pistol.

Darren Nixon, 28, was arrested and put in police cell for simply listening to music on his way home from work.

The shocked garage worker was then swabbed for a DNA sample, had his mugshot taken and was fingerprinted.

The armed officers swooped on Mr Nixon when a woman thought she saw him carrying a handgun and called the police.

Mr Nixon, from Stoke-on-Trent, has now received an apology from Staffordshire Police but said the mistake was still a "stain on his character".

He had finished work at midday on Saturday (Jan 26), turned on his black 4GB Phillips MP3 player and started walking to get the bus home.

Mr Nixon, a mechanic for Olympus Engineering, who has no previous convictions, said: "I walked to the bus station.

"Obviously I didn't know this at the time but someone saw my MP3 player in my pocket and mistook it for a gun.

"The police found me on CCTV and followed me. I got on the bus and the police followed. I was listening to my music so I didn't really notice all the cars behind the bus.

"I got off and started walking home. I saw this cop gesture at me and at first I couldn't hear what he was saying. I turned the music off and they were telling me to put my hands up in the air.

"As I got closer I could see that two of the cops had guns. There were two police dogs there as well. I was searched at the scene then hauled off to the station and interviewed.

"I was really shocked when I saw the guns. They were pointing them right at me. It was a pretty scary experience. I had no idea what was going on.

"I wasn't happy at all about it. I didn't even really get a proper apology from the police.

"They just dropped me off at home and said a quick 'sorry for any inconvenience', and that was all I got from them, which I thought was pretty out of order.

"It happened really near to where I live, so anyone could have seen me getting arrested - it's a stain on my character.

"It was unreal - I had a completely clean record before this and have always been a law-abiding citizen."

A spokesperson for Staffordshire Police said: "We received a report from a member of the public who had seen a male in the area who had appeared to pull a hand gun from a jacket pocket, grip it with both hands and aim it towards something.

"An operation was put in place and a man matching the description was detained.

"No weapon was found on him at the time but he was taken into custody on suspicion while the surrounding area where he had been was searched.

"These searches proved negative, so the man was released and taken home, as no further action was required.

"The description was extremely good and if that's the report we get we have to act quickly."

WOOOOOPS! :Q

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: palehorse74
MEANWHILE, ELSEWHERE IN THE UK...

Man arrested at gunpoint after police mistake his MP3 player for a gun

Armed police held an innocent mechanic at gunpoint when they mistook his MP3 player for a pistol.

Darren Nixon, 28, was arrested and put in police cell for simply listening to music on his way home from work.

The shocked garage worker was then swabbed for a DNA sample, had his mugshot taken and was fingerprinted.

The armed officers swooped on Mr Nixon when a woman thought she saw him carrying a handgun and called the police.

Mr Nixon, from Stoke-on-Trent, has now received an apology from Staffordshire Police but said the mistake was still a "stain on his character".

He had finished work at midday on Saturday (Jan 26), turned on his black 4GB Phillips MP3 player and started walking to get the bus home.

Mr Nixon, a mechanic for Olympus Engineering, who has no previous convictions, said: "I walked to the bus station.

"Obviously I didn't know this at the time but someone saw my MP3 player in my pocket and mistook it for a gun.

"The police found me on CCTV and followed me. I got on the bus and the police followed. I was listening to my music so I didn't really notice all the cars behind the bus.

"I got off and started walking home. I saw this cop gesture at me and at first I couldn't hear what he was saying. I turned the music off and they were telling me to put my hands up in the air.

"As I got closer I could see that two of the cops had guns. There were two police dogs there as well. I was searched at the scene then hauled off to the station and interviewed.

"I was really shocked when I saw the guns. They were pointing them right at me. It was a pretty scary experience. I had no idea what was going on.

"I wasn't happy at all about it. I didn't even really get a proper apology from the police.

"They just dropped me off at home and said a quick 'sorry for any inconvenience', and that was all I got from them, which I thought was pretty out of order.

"It happened really near to where I live, so anyone could have seen me getting arrested - it's a stain on my character.

"It was unreal - I had a completely clean record before this and have always been a law-abiding citizen."

A spokesperson for Staffordshire Police said: "We received a report from a member of the public who had seen a male in the area who had appeared to pull a hand gun from a jacket pocket, grip it with both hands and aim it towards something.

"An operation was put in place and a man matching the description was detained.

"No weapon was found on him at the time but he was taken into custody on suspicion while the surrounding area where he had been was searched.

"These searches proved negative, so the man was released and taken home, as no further action was required.

"The description was extremely good and if that's the report we get we have to act quickly."

WOOOOOPS! :Q

When this happens in the US, as it often does, the cops shoot the guy.

http://communitycop.wordpress....ake-hairbrush-for-gun/

 

[palehorse]

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: palehorse74
MEANWHILE, ELSEWHERE IN THE UK...

Man arrested at gunpoint after police mistake his MP3 player for a gun

Armed police held an innocent mechanic at gunpoint when they mistook his MP3 player for a pistol.

Darren Nixon, 28, was arrested and put in police cell for simply listening to music on his way home from work.

The shocked garage worker was then swabbed for a DNA sample, had his mugshot taken and was fingerprinted.

The armed officers swooped on Mr Nixon when a woman thought she saw him carrying a handgun and called the police.

Mr Nixon, from Stoke-on-Trent, has now received an apology from Staffordshire Police but said the mistake was still a "stain on his character".

He had finished work at midday on Saturday (Jan 26), turned on his black 4GB Phillips MP3 player and started walking to get the bus home.

Mr Nixon, a mechanic for Olympus Engineering, who has no previous convictions, said: "I walked to the bus station.

"Obviously I didn't know this at the time but someone saw my MP3 player in my pocket and mistook it for a gun.

"The police found me on CCTV and followed me. I got on the bus and the police followed. I was listening to my music so I didn't really notice all the cars behind the bus.

"I got off and started walking home. I saw this cop gesture at me and at first I couldn't hear what he was saying. I turned the music off and they were telling me to put my hands up in the air.

"As I got closer I could see that two of the cops had guns. There were two police dogs there as well. I was searched at the scene then hauled off to the station and interviewed.

"I was really shocked when I saw the guns. They were pointing them right at me. It was a pretty scary experience. I had no idea what was going on.

"I wasn't happy at all about it. I didn't even really get a proper apology from the police.

"They just dropped me off at home and said a quick 'sorry for any inconvenience', and that was all I got from them, which I thought was pretty out of order.

"It happened really near to where I live, so anyone could have seen me getting arrested - it's a stain on my character.

"It was unreal - I had a completely clean record before this and have always been a law-abiding citizen."

A spokesperson for Staffordshire Police said: "We received a report from a member of the public who had seen a male in the area who had appeared to pull a hand gun from a jacket pocket, grip it with both hands and aim it towards something.

"An operation was put in place and a man matching the description was detained.

"No weapon was found on him at the time but he was taken into custody on suspicion while the surrounding area where he had been was searched.

"These searches proved negative, so the man was released and taken home, as no further action was required.

"The description was extremely good and if that's the report we get we have to act quickly."

WOOOOOPS! :Q

When this happens in the US, as it often does, sometimes the cops shoot the guy.

http://communitycop.wordpress....ake-hairbrush-for-gun/

fixed.

 

[jonks]

Originally posted by: palehorse74

Originally posted by: sirjonk

Originally posted by: palehorse74
MEANWHILE, ELSEWHERE IN THE UK...

Man arrested at gunpoint after police mistake his MP3 player for a gun

Armed police held an innocent mechanic at gunpoint when they mistook his MP3 player for a pistol.

Darren Nixon, 28, was arrested and put in police cell for simply listening to music on his way home from work.

The shocked garage worker was then swabbed for a DNA sample, had his mugshot taken and was fingerprinted.

The armed officers swooped on Mr Nixon when a woman thought she saw him carrying a handgun and called the police.

Mr Nixon, from Stoke-on-Trent, has now received an apology from Staffordshire Police but said the mistake was still a "stain on his character".

He had finished work at midday on Saturday (Jan 26), turned on his black 4GB Phillips MP3 player and started walking to get the bus home.

Mr Nixon, a mechanic for Olympus Engineering, who has no previous convictions, said: "I walked to the bus station.

"Obviously I didn't know this at the time but someone saw my MP3 player in my pocket and mistook it for a gun.

"The police found me on CCTV and followed me. I got on the bus and the police followed. I was listening to my music so I didn't really notice all the cars behind the bus.

"I got off and started walking home. I saw this cop gesture at me and at first I couldn't hear what he was saying. I turned the music off and they were telling me to put my hands up in the air.

"As I got closer I could see that two of the cops had guns. There were two police dogs there as well. I was searched at the scene then hauled off to the station and interviewed.

"I was really shocked when I saw the guns. They were pointing them right at me. It was a pretty scary experience. I had no idea what was going on.

"I wasn't happy at all about it. I didn't even really get a proper apology from the police.

"They just dropped me off at home and said a quick 'sorry for any inconvenience', and that was all I got from them, which I thought was pretty out of order.

"It happened really near to where I live, so anyone could have seen me getting arrested - it's a stain on my character.

"It was unreal - I had a completely clean record before this and have always been a law-abiding citizen."

A spokesperson for Staffordshire Police said: "We received a report from a member of the public who had seen a male in the area who had appeared to pull a hand gun from a jacket pocket, grip it with both hands and aim it towards something.

"An operation was put in place and a man matching the description was detained.

"No weapon was found on him at the time but he was taken into custody on suspicion while the surrounding area where he had been was searched.

"These searches proved negative, so the man was released and taken home, as no further action was required.

"The description was extremely good and if that's the report we get we have to act quickly."

WOOOOOPS! :Q

When this happens in the US, as it often does, sometimes the cops shoot the guy. Other times they introduce his anus to their nightstick. When they're not to busy beating up
the handicapped that is.
http://communitycop.wordpress....ake-hairbrush-for-gun/

fixed.

Fixed again