British College Drops Burka/Veil Ban

[Darwin333]

Tell ya what, I'll make you a deal Incorruptable. I'll go along with you on the banning burkas/veils if you agree to ban crosses in the same places. Deal?

Oh thats right, the cross is a symbol of YOUR religion and should be allowed everywhere. Fuck everyone else though, especially those scary muslims.

 

[zinfamous]

Those don't cover the face, if there are Christians covering their faces then I am against that as well and have no problem with banning them.

It is no less a symbol of fealty to their God than is the cross to Christians. Further, there are no Christians doing this, it is not part of the religion and you know this. How easy for you to bring up a non-starter as such an ignorant and fanciful comparison.

your blithe hypocrisy knows no bounds.

 

[Darwin333]

How about you stop lying or is that too hard for you?

The Quran doesn't require the burka/veil and it's a cultural issue of men wanting to control women. It has nothing to do with Islam.

And this covers the face, were not talking about the hijab but the burka/veil and you have no idea who is behind it. It's also completely inappropriate to wear this.

Seems like a lot of cultures and even a lot of people in your own culture don't find it "completely inappropriate" to wear it so who the fuck are you to deem that its inappropriate?

Furthermore, I am not going to waste even a few minutes of my time to research the history of the Burka but they say its part of their religion and enough of them wear it for me to believe its part of their religion. You Christians love to "fine tune" your bible over the years, so what if they want to do the same. Lastly, as far as a cultural issue of wanting to control women, your god, per the bible, doesn't think all that highly of women either.

 

[Darwin333]

I say we start a pool and donate money to have someone find Incorruptable, hide behind a tree wearing a Burka and jump out in front of him as he walks by. Filming the entire thing for our viewing pleasure of course.

Anyone else want in? We can even have a side pool on what his reaction will be, winner takes all. My money is on him pissing himself.

 

[Bowfinger]

But there have been attempts to remove the Cross and Christmas trees, they also don't teach the Holocaust so they don't offend radical Islamists.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/rel...ht-to-wear-cross-at-work-says-Government.html

Nowhere in the Bible does it require displaying crosses. Nowhere in the Bible does it say a single word about Christmas trees. Indeed, nowhere in the Bible does it say a word about celebrating Christmas at all. Therefore, unless you are a lying, trolling hypocrite, you fully support banning crosses, Christmas trees, and Christmas itself, based on the "logic" you used in this thread. After all, the Bible doesn't require it.

(My apologies to anyone offended by suggesting Inconsequential's droppings have any connection whatsoever with logic. It is only a figure of speech.)

 

[zinfamous]

Nowhere in the Bible does it require displaying crosses. Nowhere in the Bible does it say a single word about Christmas trees. Indeed, nowhere in the Bible does it say a word about celebrating Christmas at all. Therefore, unless you are a lying, trolling hypocrite, you fully support banning crosses, Christmas trees, and Christmas itself, based on the "logic" you used in this thread. After all, the Bible doesn't require it.

(My apologies to anyone offended by suggesting Inconsequential's droppings have any connection whatsoever with logic. It is only a figure of speech.)

I think I'm going to start a Christian commune with several concubines. I will construct a menses hut in the rear of the compound, where I will force all of the women on their period to live and avert all contact with me and the other men.

The Bible requires me to do this.

I am certain that Incorrigible will rush to my aid when the City tries to shut me down.

 

[Darwin333]

Anything isn't part of the religion. Nowhere in the Quran does it require the burka but it requires modesty. Many Muslims have stated this before and it's used by men to control women and women who are brainwashed. Do we allow men to go to an airport with a mask? No

Nowhere in the bible does it require you to display a cross either, are you going to use the same argument that crosses are not a part of Christianity and therefore should be allowed to be banned?

 

[Bowfinger]

That's what most people want here.

With all due respect Charles, that's not true. Yes, the majority of P&Ners voted to rescind Idontcare's trial of a no-insults rule. That was in part because the rule was capriciously enforced, in part because a large segment of P&N (myself included) never felt insults were the real problem here, and in part simply because the rule never really delivered on its promises. Yes, overt insults were down, but the noise level was at least as bad as before thanks to a handful of prolific misfits dedicated to being as disruptive as possible while remaining just barely, arguably, within the lines. Some are still quite active here, with predictable results.

In spite of rejecting the no-insults rule, however, the plurality of P&N (not sure if it was a majority) DID still want moderation for content, specifically including "thread-crapping, thread-derailment, off-topic posting, trolling, the intentional posting of logical fallacies or misinformation." That remains on the record as the first rule in P&N, yet it appears to be very rarely enforced. It seems to me that with the rejection of the no-insults rule, management here threw up its hands and said, "Screw it, we tried. Give them the cesspool they want."

To be clear, I can't blame moderators for that. They are volunteers, and trying to moderate this place has to be one of the most thankless jobs on the face of the planet. Everything you do to try to improve quality and reduce disruption will be immediately challenged by one half of a small, but vocal group of perpetual crybabies (as you saw in DC). This is especially true for trying to moderate content, which is inherently subjective. Who needs that hassle?

In short, the current P&N cesspool is not what most people wanted. Sadly, it appears to be the best we will get given current circumstances.

And it would seem Anand does too, or he'd move the place in a different direction.

I doubt that's what he wants. To whatever extent it's on his radar at all, I imagine it's what he's resigned himself to accepting.

 

[Darwin333]

They can't accept it that I am going against the radicals. Why is it some of the supporters of the burka are the same ones who attack Christians they could at least be consistent instead of hypocrites.

Because they say it's part of their religion and that it's protected. The truth is it's not part of the religion. People can't wear masks so why is it alright for them to wear the burka? Double standards.

Quote for the irony and upcoming threads about the war on Christianity when someone sues to prevent public funds from being used to promote stuff he supports but also meet the above criteria.

 

[Incorruptible]

I say we start a pool and donate money to have someone find Incorruptable, hide behind a tree wearing a Burka and jump out in front of him as he walks by. Filming the entire thing for our viewing pleasure of course.

Anyone else want in? We can even have a side pool on what his reaction will be, winner takes all. My money is on him pissing himself.

I actually understand how dangerous the burka is since there was a terrorist who escaped from England wearing a burka in the airport. When I see the burka I immediately get away from there since I can't see who is under the burka.

 

[Sheik Yerbouti]

I actually understand how dangerous the burka is since there was a terrorist who escaped from England wearing a burka in the airport. When I see the burka I immediately get away from there since I can't see who is under the burka.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I actually understand how dangerous the burka is since there was a terrorist who escaped from England wearing a burka in the airport. When I see the burka I immediately get away from there since I can't see who is under the burka.

Lol yeah some guys anecdotal story on a fear blog. Great evidence there.

 

[Incorruptible]

Lol yeah some guys anecdotal story on a fear blog. Great evidence there.

There is more as well. Why are you defending the burka? It would be nice if you were this passionate about Christianity and defending them.

 

[Bowfinger]

Nowhere in the Bible does it require displaying crosses. Nowhere in the Bible does it say a single word about Christmas trees. Indeed, nowhere in the Bible does it say a word about celebrating Christmas at all. Therefore, unless you are a lying, trolling hypocrite, you fully support banning crosses, Christmas trees, and Christmas itself, based on the "logic" you used in this thread. After all, the Bible doesn't require it.

(My apologies to anyone offended by suggesting Inconsequential's droppings have any connection whatsoever with logic. It is only a figure of speech.)

* crickets *

"Lying, trolling hypocrite," going once ...

 

[Murloc]

christmas tree is pagan and doesn't cover the face

 

[MomentsofSanity]

There is more as well. Why are you defending the burka? It would be nice if you were this passionate about Christianity and defending them.

Defend it from what? Santa Claus isn't in the bible. Nor is Merry Christmas. No Christmas trees either. So by your own word those aren't part of the religion. Next?

 

[SheHateMe]

I actually understand how dangerous the burka is since there was a terrorist who escaped from England wearing a burka in the airport. When I see the burka I immediately get away from there since I can't see who is under the burka.

You're a fucking dumbass.

 

[DrPizza]

I am against the burka and I have talked to moderate Muslims who say that it's not part of Islam. I don't consider the burka part of the religion and I would consider it a more radical belief.



Since when does Indian mean the same as Arab? I know you're an idiot but I have no problem with brown people. I got no problem with the new Miss America and congratulate her.

So, you're going to ignore QUOTES from the Quran that demonstrate it's reasonable to believe it's part of the religion, and simply go by "I talked to a moderate Muslim."

You're a fucking dumbass.

He's a troll.

 

[Londo_Jowo]

The moderate Muslims that incorruptible spoke with were referred to him by Pam Geller (Atlas Shrugs).

 

[Thebobo]

Tell ya what, I'll make you a deal Incorruptable. I'll go along with you on the banning burkas/veils if you agree to ban crosses in the same places. Deal?

Oh thats right, the cross is a symbol of YOUR religion and should be allowed everywhere. Fuck everyone else though, especially those scary muslims.

I don’t see the cross as a sign of oppression, people are not forced to wear a cross, and it doesn’t demean someone who is wearing it. On other hand in the society of the Burka, women are severly oppressed, they can’t learn, can’t dance, can’t have a job, can’t do anything unless their husband says so. How in the hell is the Burka a positive influence on any society, its not. The Burka has no redeeming qualities the vast majority of women do no choose to wear one they are forced to

 

[mammador]

Sorry, but our country is a free one.

Don't like it, fuck it, we don't care.

 

[Incorruptible]

So, you're going to ignore QUOTES from the Quran that demonstrate it's reasonable to believe it's part of the religion, and simply go by "I talked to a moderate Muslim."


He's a troll.

Here you go. It clearly states the burka isn't part of Islam.

http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/showthread.php?163473-Burka-not-a-part-of-Islam-say-scholars

http://articles.timesofindia.indiatimes.com/2011-06-27/faith-and-ritual/28368268_1_burqa-quran-hijab

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2010/04/11/the-veil-is-un-islamic.html

For the people defending the burka it would be nice if you were this passionate about defending Christians as well but apparently the Christians are all evil, nice double standards.

 

[actuarial]

Here you go. It clearly states the burka isn't part of Islam.

None of your links matter, because someone's religious beliefs are not dictated by others. You cannot say what is part of someone's religious beliefs. Full Stop.

For the people defending the burka it would be nice if you were this passionate about defending Christians as well but apparently the Christians are all evil, nice double standards.

It would be nice if you were as passionate at defending Islamic religious expression as you are of defending Christian religious expression, but apparently the Muslims are all evil, nice double standard.

You defend the Christmas tree but no where in the bible is the Christmas tree mentioned. Nice double standards.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Are you a fascist or do you just hate freedom?



Why?

He needs to be able to positively identify the people he means to hate.

 

[JulesMaximus]

For the people defending the burka it would be nice if you were this passionate about defending Christians as well but apparently the Christians are all evil, nice double standards.

Defending them from what exactly?