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brioche - bread or pastry?

  • 1. bread

    Votes: 10 71.4%
  • 2. pastry

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • 3. what's a brioche?

    Votes: 1 7.1%
  • 4. I don't like you

    Votes: 2 14.3%
  • comedy option

    Votes: 0 0.0%

  • Total voters
    14

JEDI

Lifer
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Tofu's good. It can be anyway. It's a blank slate that can turn into anything you want. Texture's the only thing that doesn't substantially change. I like it marinated, then grilled on skewers.
Thinly fried into a crisp like spam :p
 

BoomerD

No Lifer
Feb 26, 2006
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There are camps that consider brioche a cross between bread and pastry.

What is brioche?

Brioche bread is a French bread, and a cross between a pastry and bread.

This is because the bread is enriched with butter and eggs. It belongs to the family of viennoisseries (think croissants, Danish pastries, sweet rolls etc.). It’s a very buttery, soft and delicious bread and can be made into sweet brioche or savory brioche.


It can also be considered an "enriched bread" because of the eggs and butter that's added.

 
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pete6032

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Brioche is a type of bread that is often considered to be a hybrid between bread and pastry. It is enriched with ingredients like butter, eggs, and sometimes sugar, which give it a rich and tender crumb and a slightly sweet flavor. While brioche is categorized as a bread, its texture and flavor can be quite pastry-like, making it a versatile option that can be used in both sweet and savory dishes. It's commonly used in French cuisine for items like breakfast pastries, burger buns, and even dessert items like bread pudding. So, you could say it bridges the gap between bread and pastry.
 

Kaido

Elite Member & Kitchen Overlord
Feb 14, 2004
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On a tangent, I'm SUPER into no-knead bread, where you only spend about 5 minutes a day of active hands-on timing baking your gluteny project for the day:


These light brioche buns are pretty good. Same idea as your traditional no-knead bread (which is just flour, water, salt, and yeast), but with a little milk, butter, and egg:


You can also branch that concept out to make these amazing no-knead brioche cinnamon rolls:

 
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Pohemi

Lifer
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Brioche is a type of bread that is often considered to be a hybrid between bread and pastry. It is enriched with ingredients like butter, eggs, and sometimes sugar, which give it a rich and tender crumb and a slightly sweet flavor. While brioche is categorized as a bread, its texture and flavor can be quite pastry-like, making it a versatile option that can be used in both sweet and savory dishes. It's commonly used in French cuisine for items like breakfast pastries, burger buns, and even dessert items like bread pudding. So, you could say it bridges the gap between bread and pastry.
Nice AI paragraph, lol.
 
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nakedfrog

No Lifer
Apr 3, 2001
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Err fruit smoothies are not healthy at all. And it is possible to make tasty tofu dishes.
Is fruit healthy? What makes a fruit smoothie inherently unhealthy? Mine are fruit, ice, just enough plant milk (almond, coconut, oat, kinda depends) to make it easily drinkable (about 3/4 cup), and some hemp seeds.
 

lxskllr

No Lifer
Nov 30, 2004
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Is fruit healthy? What makes a fruit smoothie inherently unhealthy? Mine are fruit, ice, just enough plant milk (almond, coconut, oat, kinda depends) to make it easily drinkable (about 3/4 cup), and some hemp seeds.
Problem is it's a sugar bomb that delivers fast and hard. I wouldn't necessarily say it's unhealthy, but should be treated more like a treat imo.
 

[DHT]Osiris

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Is fruit healthy? What makes a fruit smoothie inherently unhealthy? Mine are fruit, ice, just enough plant milk (almond, coconut, oat, kinda depends) to make it easily drinkable (about 3/4 cup), and some hemp seeds.
The sugars hit your small intestines all at once and shock your blood sugar. It's not great. Fruit should (ideally) be consumed whole, after other food, and in limited quantities.

Edit: also, brioche has four times the sugar as French bread by weight. May not be as severe as cake but you're really not caring at that point, are you? May as well use donuts for bread.
 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
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Well, I'm following my doctor's advice regardless, was just curious as to the rationale behind saying "fruit smoothies are not healthy at all".
I typically have one shortly before hiking a few miles.
 

sdifox

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Is fruit healthy? What makes a fruit smoothie inherently unhealthy? Mine are fruit, ice, just enough plant milk (almond, coconut, oat, kinda depends) to make it easily drinkable (about 3/4 cup), and some hemp seeds.
Sugar. Fruit is sugar. Eating fruit is not too bad because your system has to break it down first. Blended, you may as well drink fructose.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

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Well, I'm following my doctor's advice regardless, was just curious as to the rationale behind saying "fruit smoothies are not healthy at all".
Let's say your smoothie is aforementioned 3/4ths a cup of oat milk (my favorite), a banana, half a cup of raspberries, and a peach.
In order:
75cal, 3g sugar
100cal, 14g sugar
32cal, 3g sugar
50cal, 13g sugar

So around 250-300cal, ~33g of sugar for a snack. That's very roughly equivalent to having a peice of chocolate cake along with a multivitamin. Your doc might think 'it's fruit, fruit's good', but go talk to a nutritionist. That's not good for you.
 

Kaido

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Is fruit healthy? What makes a fruit smoothie inherently unhealthy? Mine are fruit, ice, just enough plant milk (almond, coconut, oat, kinda depends) to make it easily drinkable (about 3/4 cup), and some hemp seeds.

Fruit is:

1. High sugar
2. High fiber
3. Low fat

Think of fruit sugar as parachuting down into your bloodstream & then zipping away on a speedboat. Unlike sugar, which is more like dropping an anvil into the ocean haha. However, if you're sugar-sensitive, sugar is still sugar, but it's definitely "better" to eat the whole fruit or to throw it in a smoothie rather than juice all of the fiber out of it or eat straight-up sugar.

But, everything in moderation! I eat dessert pretty much every day, but I also try to watch my daily macro intake of protein, carbs, and fats to make sure I'm not going overboard on a regular basis haha. Our modern knowledge of how our bodies work is really incredible:

 

nakedfrog

No Lifer
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Sugar. Fruit is sugar. Eating fruit is not too bad because your system has to break it down first. Blended, you may as well drink fructose.
Well, at least you've qualified your statement.
Let's say your smoothie is aforementioned 3/4ths a cup of oat milk (my favorite), a banana, half a cup of raspberries, and a peach.
In order:
75cal, 3g sugar
100cal, 14g sugar
32cal, 3g sugar
50cal, 13g sugar

So around 250-300cal, ~33g of sugar for a snack. That's very roughly equivalent to having a peice of chocolate cake along with a multivitamin. Your doc might think 'it's fruit, fruit's good', but go talk to a nutritionist. That's not good for you.
Mine come in around 200 calories and 21g of sugar. I'm very healthy, and my doc is competent, but thanks for your input :)
However, if you're sugar-sensitive, sugar is still sugar, but it's definitely "better" to eat the whole fruit or to throw it in a smoothie rather than juice all of the fiber out of it or eat straight-up sugar.
Hey, that's exactly what I'm doing :p
 
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nakedfrog

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I haven't made burgers at home in ages, but this is my preference as well, once I noticed that's what one of my favorite burger places used.
I wouldn’t think of a brioche for a burger however as I have learned they work well in unexpected ways. I may try this out when my wife is away next month.

Info: I have a vegetarian wife we have two rules that are good compromises for us. I do not cook hamburgers in the house because she hates the look & smell. She does not cook Indian food in the house because I hate the look & smell.
 

lxskllr

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I wouldn’t think of a brioche for a burger however as I have learned they work well in unexpected ways. I may try this out when my wife is away next month.

Info: I have a vegetarian wife we have two rules that are good compromises for us. I do not cook hamburgers in the house because she hates the look & smell. She does not cook Indian food in the house because I hate the look & smell.
You two can come over my house and cook me Indian food and burgers. I think both smell great!
 
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