Breitbart and Infowars Under FBI Investigation?

[cytg111]

Does "the hook" mean the code? Because a quick Google shows many results offering the exact same code to be added to websites desiring indexing by Yandex, Russian intelligence was certainly not necessary.

fwiw, from what Archive.org is telling me, the Yandex bit was added on March 31st 2016, which could be conducive with the Russian interference theory:

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20160331210419/http://www.breitbart.com/

Yes, that would be the code if I am reading it correctly.
I am well aware that its not a smoking gun if thats what you're getting at? At best circumstantial. One way or the other though, you have to print out the dots before you can connect them.
What other US media has yandex metadata? I've done a quick roundabout, didnt find any besides breitbart.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Does "the hook" mean the code? Because a quick Google shows many results offering the exact same code to be added to websites desiring indexing by Yandex, Russian intelligence was certainly not necessary.

fwiw, from what Archive.org is telling me, the Yandex bit was added on March 31st 2016, which could be conducive with the Russian interference theory:

https://web-beta.archive.org/web/20160331210419/http://www.breitbart.com/

Heh. Manafort officially joined Trumps campaign March 29th.

 

[JSt0rm]

good. charge them with sedition. Hang them and shoot their dogs.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Yes, that would be the code if I am reading it correctly.
I am well aware that its not a smoking gun if thats what you're getting at? At best circumstantial. One way or the other though, you have to print out the dots before you can connect them.
What other US media has yandex metadata? I've done a quick roundabout, didnt find any besides breitbart.

Yeah I'll admit I couldn't find any others either that refer to them.

Heh. Manafort officially joined Trumps campaign March 29th.

lol, seems to be a common theme. He's going to be the fall guy no matter how complicit Trump and others are.

 

[JSt0rm]

Yeah I'll admit I couldn't find any others either that refer to them.



lol, seems to be a common theme. He's going to be the fall guy no matter how complicit Trump and others are.

Until he is offered fbi witness protection. He better reach out before he ends up dead.

 

[woolfe9998]

I don't see how that's illegal. Is it now illegal to speak with Russians? It sure seems the Left feels that way.

If it's illegal for Breitbart and infowars to communicate or collude with the Russia, how the hell has RT (USA corp) not been busted?

All this Russian fear mongering is insane.

Fern

Nonsense. This has never been about mere contacts and communications. If we're talking about the Trump campaign, this is about contacts and communications with Russian officials during a time from they were hacking democratic organizations to help Trump win, then lying about said communications.

So far as this particular story, I don't see the illegality here. Not only is talking to Russians not a crime. Seeding false propaganda on the internet isn't either. Deeply immoral, sure. But not illegal. Which is why I'm perplexed that they are under investigation.

 

[Grooveriding]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...-top-stories_alexjones&utm_term=.28cffb19da73

Alex Jones, the Info wars lunatic apologizes for spreading the pizzagate conspiracy theory. Apparently he is trying to avoid a lawsuit. Someone's getting nervous he'll be reduced to making up conspiracies about who made him drop the soap in the prison shower.

 

[JSt0rm]

apologies are admission of guilt in a court of law so he must not have good lawyers.

 

[lopri]

Espionage Act of 1917
Espionage Act of 1996

Of course it has to be more than merely speaking to a Russian about weather.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

apologies are admission of guilt in a court of law so he must not have good lawyers.

Actually under Texas law he had 30 days to make the retraction after getting the letter from the owner of the pizza place or face a lawsuit. The admission avoids court.

 

[flexy]

I agree, the 4th estate for me is the basis of our democracy from the beginning.

When a working-class person spends time on these sites and SERIOUSLY (as had happened) believes that Clinton performs satanic rituals and eats babies while heading a pedophile rape ring...and then makes voting decision based on this...is it still democracy?

Well, fuck yes,I guess it is, unfortunately.

I guess here it comes down to whether BB and Nutter Alex really collaborated with Russian "intelligence" or the government....as opposed to spamming their crap in other ways via Russia which technically sure isn't illegal per se. So or so this was an extremely dirty campaign with BB and IW and then social media certainly having a big impact, if not ultimately deciding this election. I also personally hope they'd find something actually illegal so that the scumbags are held accountable...but I guess chances are slim for this.

During the campaign, I felt that these sites WAY, WAY crossed the border of what was acceptable with their shit stories...but of course the question here is whether they did something illegal. The stupidity of Americans who visit those sites (IW in particular) and then believe the shit is unfortunately not a crime.

 

[Balt]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/life...-top-stories_alexjones&utm_term=.28cffb19da73

Alex Jones, the Info wars lunatic apologizes for spreading the pizzagate conspiracy theory. Apparently he is trying to avoid a lawsuit. Someone's getting nervous he'll be reduced to making up conspiracies about who made him drop the soap in the prison shower.

Sooo.. what you're saying is.. Alex Jones is part of the Pizzagate coverup conspiracy now.

 

[Fern]

Nonsense. This has never been about mere contacts and communications. If we're talking about the Trump campaign, this is about contacts and communications with Russian officials during a time from they were hacking democratic organizations to help Trump win, then lying about said communications.

So far as this particular story, I don't see the illegality here. Not only is talking to Russians not a crime. Seeding false propaganda on the internet isn't either. Deeply immoral, sure. But not illegal. Which is why I'm perplexed that they are under investigation.

I used to watch RT (I changed satellite providers and no longer have access) and they were definitely trying to influence US policy. If they weren't during the election I would be surprised.

And influence is what this is about. AFAIK no one is claiming a US person helped Russia hack the DNC.

Fern

 

[Double Trouble]

Breitbard, infowars and anyone else could be working hand in hand with the Russians to spread whatever stories they wanted, and there's nothing illegal about it. Freedom of speech and freedom of the press and all that.

The only thing I could see the FBI investigating is to try and find out if anyone in the new administration was directly involved or might know about Russian propaganda.

 

[HomerJS]

I used to watch RT (I changed satellite providers and no longer have access) and they were definitely trying to influence US policy. If they weren't during the election I would be surprised.

And influence is what this is about. AFAIK no one is claiming a US person helped Russia hack the DNC.

Fern

No one is saying that. The investigation is on coordinating the release info from the hacks for the purposes of damaging Hillary Clinton. Unless something comes out the Russians did the actual hacking.

BTW - it is illegal to traffic in stolen property

 

[Fern]

No one is saying that. The investigation is on coordinating the release info from the hacks for the purposes of damaging Hillary Clinton. Unless something comes out the Russians did the actual hacking.

BTW - it is illegal to traffic in stolen property

What?

When you say "no one is saying that" are you agreeing with me that no one is saying that a US person helped with Russian hacking? Your phrasing is odd.

How would one "coordinate the release of info"? What does that even mean? What coordination? Wikileaks released it, so what are you people talking about?

And I don't believe trafficking in stolen property has anything to do with releasing such info, even if it was illegally obtained. (If the info was patents etc, yes it may apply. But that's not relevant here.)

Fern

 

[woolfe9998]

What?

When you say "no one is saying that" are you agreeing with me that no one is saying that a US person helped with Russian hacking? Your phrasing is odd.

How would one "coordinate the release of info"? What does that even mean? What coordination? Wikileaks released it, so what are you people talking about?

And I don't believe trafficking in stolen property has anything to do with releasing such info, even if it was illegally obtained. (If the info was patents etc, yes it may apply. But that's not relevant here.)

Fern

Experts say Russia has been hacking American political institutions for years. But they've never released any of it to the public, because that was never their strategy. In the past, they used it internally to keep apprised of what was going on and being said inside these institutions. This time, they decided to release the stolen data to the public. The accusation is that this was done in exchange for favorable rhetoric and/or policy changes from Trump.

With that, I'm done educating you. All of this is out there. You can find it yourself.

 

[Thunder 57]

They don't appear to be suspected of hacking, but rather in colluding with Russia in the dissemination of anti-Cltinton propaganda.

who fed them with anti-Clinton fake news

Because letting us see what she really is was "fake news?".

I am not at all a fan of Trump, but she had just as many problems if not worse. First time I voted for a 3rd party.


https://pics.me.me/democratic-party-fucking-russian-hackers-https-t-co-yd5yzax6ak-8933367.png

 

[Fern]

Experts say Russia has been hacking American political institutions for years. But they've never released any of it to the public, because that was never their strategy. In the past, they used it internally to keep apprised of what was going on and being said inside these institutions. This time, they decided to release the stolen data to the public. The accusation is that this was done in exchange for favorable rhetoric and/or policy changes from Trump.

With that, I'm done educating you. All of this is out there. You can find it yourself.

Good God, "educating me".

This is the only site I visit promoting such lunacy (meaning I have a reason to not know "what's out there" when it involves such drivel).

Furthermore, "in exchange for" is not "coordination", not close. Are you "coordinating" with McDonald's when you hand them a dollar in exchange for a cheeseburger? And you're the one in another thread trying to tell me that neither I or Clapper understand the definition of " evidence". :rollyeyes:

Fern

 

[Thunder 57]

Good God, "educating me".

This is the only site I visit promoting such lunacy (meaning I have a reason to not know "what's out there" when it involves such drivel).

Furthermore, "in exchange for" is not "coordination", not close. Are you "coordinating" with McDonald's when you hand them a dollar in exchange for a cheeseburger? And you're the one in another thread trying to tell me that neither I or Clapper understand the definition of " evidence". :rollyeyes:

Fern

Where have you been? The Russians have been doing it forever. They really worked hard to keep that Reagan guy in office despite him helping break up the Soviet Union.

 

[Thebobo]

Good God, "educating me".

This is the only site I visit promoting such lunacy (meaning I have a reason to not know "what's out there" when it involves such drivel).

Furthermore, "in exchange for" is not "coordination", not close. Are you "coordinating" with McDonald's when you hand them a dollar in exchange for a cheeseburger? And you're the one in another thread trying to tell me that neither I or Clapper understand the definition of " evidence". :rollyeyes:

Fern

Come on seriously? This site is but a drizzle of what you call lunacy compared to the thousands of others. Even the FBI is investigating exactly what woolfe said.

Obviusly you have internet where you live is it one way?

 

[emperus]

Good God, "educating me".

This is the only site I visit promoting such lunacy (meaning I have a reason to not know "what's out there" when it involves such drivel).

Furthermore, "in exchange for" is not "coordination", not close. Are you "coordinating" with McDonald's when you hand them a dollar in exchange for a cheeseburger? And you're the one in another thread trying to tell me that neither I or Clapper understand the definition of " evidence". :rollyeyes:

Fern

You do know that Comey said that he is investigating collusion between Trumps associates and Russia. What exactly do you think that means or do you think COmey is promoting lunacy/

 

[Fern]

Where have you been? The Russians have been doing it forever. They really worked hard to keep that Reagan guy in office despite him helping break up the Soviet Union.

Where have I been? What are you referring to?

If you think I said I don't believe the Russians are hacking us I don't know how anybody even remotely familiar with the English language could read that in anything I've posted here.

We're all hacking each other's brains out.

I just recently commented here on the digital war that has been going on for some years and is not reported in the MSM. I referenced a lengthy article in Vanity Fair magazine that covered it some years ago. (STUXNET and what not.)

Fern

 

[Fern]

Come on seriously? This site is but a drizzle of what you call lunacy compared to the thousands of others. Even the FBI is investigating exactly what woolfe said.

Obviusly you have internet where you live is it one way?

I don't hang around the goofy sites you people do. I don't do any social media, which is where a lot of this crap seems to come from.

The sites I visit are BBC, CNN, Fox, and France24. I've seen none of this on those.

I watch the above channel broadcasts plus MSNBC (I can't tolerate their web format so stopped visiting their page). I've only seen rather vague accusations of collusion. But to what end (for Russia)? IDK, that's why I say it's vague.

Fern

 

[Fern]

You do know that Comey said that he is investigating collusion between Trumps associates and Russia. What exactly do you think that means or do you think COmey is promoting lunacy/

As I've said, it find it rather vague.

Fern