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'Breathalyzer in every car' bill passes house

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Originally posted by: Skoorb
KnightBreed The problem is that people want absolute freedom to do what they want, but also absolute freedom from what everybody else is doing that may contrast with it.

I don't think throwing people in jail is necessarily the answer considering how many are already in jail, but obviously people need to stop drving and being repeat offenders. Garnishing wages with a stiff automatica penalty would be a good start. A humilating license plate would be another, or a big sticker on their car that says "I'm a drunk.". I guess the bad offenders should go in jail. I hear about people who've been convicted of DUI like 10 times and shake my head. Why haven't they been beaten already?
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Well unless you plan on moving to a secluded island or possibly surrounding yourself in an indestructible bubble, you will never escape the stupidity of the populous.

The more I think about it, the more I realize the only to solve this problem is some means of detoxicating people after they are done drinking - besides simply waiting, of course. Can you patent a concept that doesn't work yet?🙂
 
Can't you just get someone who isn't drunk to breathe into the thing and start your car for you? I'm sure someone would do it for a small fee, or as a favour. Not going to be very hard to bypass.
 
Originally posted by: Lonyo
Can't you just get someone who isn't drunk to breathe into the thing and start your car for you? I'm sure someone would do it for a small fee, or as a favour. Not going to be very hard to bypass.
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You could but here is how the conversation would go "Hey Bob, I'm drunk. I shouldn't be driving, but can you be a buddy and breath into my car?" Also, I've no doubt that bob would then be in part liable for any death that the driver causes, should he.
 

This was the best /. response:

There's NO WAY to blow air into a tube wihout it coming from a human lung. Billows do not exist. And these things are so inexpensive, they can put two or three in each car, to make sure the passengers are sober too!

Wait, none of that is true.

What the story doesn't mention is the Special Edition model for bishops and politicians. When they fail a drunk test, a HUD shows up on the windshield and locks on to pedestrians. Makes life a LOT easier, let me tell you.
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Originally posted by: caitlion
wow.. thats really stupid.
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So are the people who drink and drive, then kill somebody which in turn "kills" a whole family. The worst part is the drunk survives most of the time. I think anything will have to do at this point... it's been too long.
 
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: caitlion
wow.. thats really stupid.
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So are the people who drink and drive, then kill somebody which in turn "kills" a whole family. The worst part is the drunk survives most of the time.
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Then what do you propose to solve the problem?
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I edited my post above, then saw this question... if there were an end-all solution, it wouldn't take a lowly ATOT'er to provide it. Besides, a deterrent is better than nothing... especially in this case... true or not ?
 
Why do we need all of this crap? It's so stupid. Just stiffen the penalties. Simple as that. How many people do you know in HS/College who had DUI's? They got a slap on the wrist. A friend wrecked his car while drunk and lost his license for a measley 3 months. Oh big deal! Just the fear of something like losing your license for a couple years, losing your car, jail time, etc, would keep most people from even casually drinking and then driving (like 2-3 beers). We don't need all of these stupid gadgets.
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: rh71
Originally posted by: caitlion
wow.. thats really stupid.
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So are the people who drink and drive, then kill somebody which in turn "kills" a whole family. The worst part is the drunk survives most of the time.
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Then what do you propose to solve the problem?
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I edited my post above, then saw this question... if there were an end-all solution, it wouldn't take a lowly ATOT'er to provide it. Besides, a deterrent is better than nothing... especially in this case... true or not ?
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I agree, but are you willing to give up another personal liberty for this to happen?
 
Hmm, I dont really have any objection to this. To me I see it as well if im not drinking then my car is going to start no problem. It's like being carded for ID when you go to buy something that says "SEE ID" (yes i realise this is there by choice) on the back of your credit card or carded when you buy booze/cigs.. no problem if what you are doing is legal. Sure it's not fair to make everyone do it but I'd rather know that anyone behind the wheel had to 'pass' a breathalizer in order to start the car and arent endangering the lives of my whole family.


Edit: I also recommend a super bright colored license plate for drunk drivers.. or something that says in their plate number "Drunk0001" and so on maybe hot pink .

*runs for cover*
 
Good question - I would't like it, but if it's a standard, I'm not going to b!tch to anyone about it.

But wait... I'm sorry, why is alcohol allowed to be consumed again ? Ban that instead. Why not ? Because it's another liberty we'd have to give up ?
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Good question - I would't like it, but if it's a standard, I'm not going to b!tch to anyone about it.

But wait... I'm sorry, why is alcohol allowed to be consumed again ? Ban that instead. Why not ?
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😀 Can opened. Worms everywhere. No way in hell I'm getting involved in that debate.
 
I have no problem with this. Of course it will need to be thought out more before actually implemented to avoid people just circumventing the device, but drunk drivers are the worst. I like the idea of a special license plate for drunk drivers so that EVERYONE knows it.
 
Originally posted by: KnightBreed
Originally posted by: rh71
Good question - I would't like it, but if it's a standard, I'm not going to b!tch to anyone about it.

But wait... I'm sorry, why is alcohol allowed to be consumed again ? Ban that instead. Why not ?
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😀 Can opened. Worms everywhere. No way in hell I'm getting involved in that debate.
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Actually I don't want to take the position of - "just because I don't drink, I think it should be banned". I really want to know why it's legal to consume alcohol when the effects are NEVER good...

I mean, you have college kids getting drunk for that "buzz" only to upchuck a few hours later, not to mention waking up the next morning with his head in a world of hurt. Oh don't forget about the girl who got too drunk to know her panties were pulled off and now she's got vaginal tears she can't explain... or the girl on the side of the street puking her guts out outside a bar - yeah, she was real hot... real attractive there. And then... you have these fvcktards who decide to try and make it home on their own while fully-knowing their judgment is impaired. Feeling sorry for the rest of your life after you've completely destroyed another is not good enough. While I'm here, I think 10-years minimum for drunk driving would do it...

Now I ask - what's the source of the problem ? 😀
 
Originally posted by: Viper GTS
Originally posted by: Jhill
This would be awesome at parties. We could run out to the driveway every 15 minutes and see who was "winning".
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You can pick up breathalyzers for like $50 these days, why bother with one in a vehicle.

Viper GTS
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The acuracy of thoose $50 devices is suspect at best.
 
Originally posted by: TheKub
Hehe. Ill hang out in the bar parking lot charging people $10 to start thier car for them 😀
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and hope they dont get into accidents on the way home and have your dna all over the breathalyzer 😛
 
Couldnt you just get a hand pump to blow air through it and fool it. I am thinking of something will just push air, like a bike pump.
 
Originally posted by: rh71

Actually I don't want to take the position of - "just because I don't drink, I think it should be banned". I really want to know why it's legal to consume alcohol when the effects are NEVER good...
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Except there are a number of studies which suggest there are assorted health benefits from alcohol when consumed in moderation. Binge drinking is not the only way to drink.
 
The solution is simple, DUI/DWI should be charged as attempted murder, simple as that. It should be treated no differently than someone who fires a weapon at someone and misses, because more often than not, that's exactly what happens when someone is driving drunk.

Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear arguements for or against this idea too. It seems to simple to me and I'm wondering why in the hell no one has implemented a law like this already.
 
Originally posted by: Rogue
The solution is simple, DUI/DWI should be charged as attempted murder, simple as that. It should be treated no differently than someone who fires a weapon at someone and misses, because more often than not, that's exactly what happens when someone is driving drunk.

Just out of curiosity, I'd like to hear arguements for or against this idea too. It seems to simple to me and I'm wondering why in the hell no one has implemented a law like this already.
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Your analogy is flawed. If you fire a weapon directly at somebody, that usually implies you are trying to kill them. I don't know of many people that drive drunk with the intent of crashing into a group of children.
 
Originally posted by: FeathersMcGraw
Originally posted by: rh71

Actually I don't want to take the position of - "just because I don't drink, I think it should be banned". I really want to know why it's legal to consume alcohol when the effects are NEVER good...
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Except there are a number of studies which suggest there are assorted health benefits from alcohol when consumed in moderation. Binge drinking is not the only way to drink.
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Like that's going to fly with the college crowd. 😛

- M4H
 
Originally posted by: rh71
Well marijuana helps in health cases as well... yet that is illegal, is it not ?
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First of all, your statement was that alcohol consumption was never good, which (if you believe the studies) is false.

Second, your position fails to recognize the difference between excessive alcohol consumption and any alcohol consumption.

Third, there's a lot of debate whether marijuana should be illegal for precisely the reason that it has useful medicinal properties. Unfortunately, issues of legality are not always in line with utilitarian purposes (e.g. stem-cell research).
 
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