Breaking YASS This time Houston TX

[sandorski]

Illicit items people have a demand for and finding ways to get. Besides, all the ammunition for guns are consumables too.

Want to try different flavors of alcohol next you crown-clown?

Oy vey. That's all you got?

 

[HumblePie]

Illicit items people have a demand for and finding ways to get. Besides, all the ammunition for guns are consumables too.

Want to try different flavors of alcohol next you crown-clown?

Ammo is just one consumable. Cleaners, and replacement parts are another set of consumables. since guns are highly mechanical, there is wear involved and parts will break down over time eventually.

 

[OrByte]

Yep, they sure keep guns out don't they?

gun free zones were not meant to keep guns "out"

that is impossible.

you would have to do ALOT more than just designate an area as "gun free" in order to make it ACTUALLY gun free don't you think?

AGAIN. The NRA and it's followers would like you to think that gun free zones don't work....and it's the mentality behind such despicable reasoning that makes me sad and frustrated about the dialogue in the US. We arent getting anywhere on this issue...

 

[Londo_Jowo]

Lomestar college is pretty ghetto.

Afraid not, Lone Star College is located in the Spring (north of Houston). Spring is not a ghetto area of Houston, it's actually very close to the Woodlands and is a high priced area.

 

[micrometers]

At least one was a student.

And yes, innocent bystanders were hit.

This is why more guns is a bad idea.

 

[Fenixgoon]

gun free zones were not meant to keep guns "out"

that is impossible.

you would have to do ALOT more than just designate an area as "gun free" in order to make it ACTUALLY gun free don't you think?

AGAIN. The NRA and it's followers would like you to think that gun free zones don't work....and it's the mentality behind such despicable reasoning that makes me sad and frustrated about the dialogue in the US. We arent getting anywhere on this issue...

so if the purpose of a "gun free zone" is not to keep guns out, as its name would imply, what is its purpose?

 

[Wreckem]

so if the purpose of a "gun free zone" is not to keep guns out, as its name would imply, what is its purpose?

Laws don't magically prevent people from doing things. Laws punish people for doing things.

 

[TallBill]

Laws don't magically prevent people from doing things. Laws punish people for doing things.

Which in the case of firearms is predominately after they have already been used for a crime.

 

[sigurros81]

Afraid not, Lone Star College is located in the Spring (north of Houston). Spring is not a ghetto area of Houston, it's actually very close to the Woodlands and is a high priced area.

What do you know, you live in Richmond. Being close to the woodlands doesn't make it the woodlands.

 

[Genx87]

this recent shooting shows that people concealing weapons on campus doesn't do jack squat either.

So you are moving the goal posts then? What does conceal working or not working have to do with gun free zones being the location for so many mass shootings?

 

[TallBill]

So you are moving the goal posts then? What does conceal working or not working have to do with gun free zones being the location for so many mass shootings?

Anyone looking at a single event to prove things is a goof troop anyways.

 

[jpeyton]

Remind me how an assault weapons or high-capacity magazine ban would have stopped this?

 

[TallBill]

Remind me how an assault weapons or high-capacity magazine ban would have stopped this?

Don't you care about children?

 

[J-Money]

so if the purpose of a "gun free zone" is not to keep guns out, as its name would imply, what is its purpose?

Do speed limit signs stop everyone from speeding? No, but I'd wager it limits the amount that do.

Is it really that hard for you guys to figure out?

Not advocating gun control. But I do advocate common sense which really seems lacking from the pro gunners at times (such as quoted).

 

[TallBill]

Do speed limit signs stop everyone from speeding? No, but I'd wager it limits the amount that do.

Is it really that hard for you guys to figure out?

Not advocating gun control. But I do advocate common sense which really seems lacking from the pro gunners at times (such as quoted).

Speed limits are nothing like gun free zones. People don't speed in order to intentionally hurt other people. They might cause high speed wreck but there is no malice. If my plan is to shoot and kill people, no law whatsoever is going to stop me. I don't get how this is tough to understand.

The only true "gun free zones" are those like airports and courthouses with a multiple armed security as well as metal detectors on all entrances where you actually can detect if a criminal is attempting to enter while armed.

 

[ivwshane]

Speed limits are nothing like gun free zones. People don't speed in order to intentionally hurt other people. They might cause high speed wreck but there is no malice. If my plan is to shoot and kill people, no law whatsoever is going to stop me. I don't get how this is tough to understand.

The only true "gun free zones" are those like airports and courthouses with a multiple armed security as well as metal detectors on all entrances where you actually can detect if a criminal is attempting to enter while armed.

History and statistics says you are wrong. Early in this countrys car history there were a ton of accidents and deaths from automobiles, laws and rules were made and the number of traffic accidents have declined, despite an increase in the number of drivers and how much people drive.

 

[TallBill]

History and statistics says you are wrong. Early in this countrys car history there were a ton of accidents and deaths from automobiles, laws and rules were made and the number of traffic accidents have declined, despite an increase in the number of drivers and how much people drive.

I'm quite aware of traffic fatality statistics and how speed limits work, I was a radar/lidar certified instructor. I agree with your post but I don't know what it has to do with mine.

Do you honestly think anyone out there is like, man I'm gonna fucking kill my biology teacher, if only I was allowed to bring a gun in there.

This is where you'll probably project that someone with good intentions that is carrying will just snap and go nuts on the spot, which just doesn't happen with ccw's.

 

[TallBill]

Although you probably wouldn't admit that anyone has good intentions, even though a shitload of people do every day without "snapping".

 

[ivwshane]

I'm quite aware of traffic fatality statistics and how speed limits work, I was a radar/lidar certified instructor. I agree with your post but I don't know what it has to do with mine.

Do you honestly think anyone out there is like, man I'm gonna fucking kill my biology teacher, if only I was allowed to bring a gun in there.

This is where you'll probably project that someone with good intentions that is carrying will just snap and go nuts on the spot, which just doesn't happen with ccw's.

Your problem is that you are trying to relate one law and equate it to some gun law. It doesn't work that way. Guns are unique and require laws that address the issues. What those laws are can be debated but as it stands the debate is no guns versus no laws which is just stupid.

 

[Fenixgoon]

Do speed limit signs stop everyone from speeding? No, but I'd wager it limits the amount that do.

Is it really that hard for you guys to figure out?

Not advocating gun control. But I do advocate common sense which really seems lacking from the pro gunners at times (such as quoted).

so if speed limits don't stop people from speeding, and gun free zones don't actually stop people from bringing guns to a school,

how does either prevent someone from maliciously doing harm in either scenario?

because that's exactly what the scenario of any mass murder is. and the only way to stop them is to try and stop crazy people from doing crazy things.

any ordinary person could do immense harm if they really wanted to, with great ease. but there's reason it doesn't happen every day.

 

[TallBill]

so if speed limits don't stop people from speeding, and gun free zones don't actually stop people from bringing guns to a school,

how does either prevent someone from maliciously doing harm in either scenario?

because that's exactly what the scenario of any mass murder is. and the only way to stop them is to try and stop crazy people from doing crazy things.

any ordinary person could do immense harm if they really wanted to, with great ease. but there's reason it doesn't happen every day.

I wouldn't even compare the two whatsoever. This would be like saying that speed limits stop people from using their vehicles as weapons. If I'm going to ram into a crowd at 90 mph, the speed limit infraction isnt even on the table of important charges. Speed limits are to prevent accidental fatalities. I don't know what gun free zones are trying to prevent, unless done in actual secure areas like I mentioned above.

 

[blankslate]

I got an idea. Since tuition costs are so high just have every college allocate those funds to "safety" and issue a firearm and provide handgun training to the students.

 

[TallBill]

I got an idea. Since tuition costs are so high just have every college allocate those funds to "safety" and issue a firearm and provide handgun training to the students.

Nothing wrong with providing safety training. "Arming everyone" is retarded, not everyone is willing and wanting to take on concealed carry. The people that do are overwhelmingly law abiding in all crimes, not just non violent ones.

People caught carrying without a permit would be punished regardless of where they are at, bump up their punishment if caught in a school zone if you want.

 

[blankslate]

Arming everyone" is retarded

Yet according to gun advocates it's the best way to ensure everyone's safety. How dare you libel those kind hearted souls.

 

[TallBill]

Yet according to gun advocates it's the best way to ensure everyone's safety. How dare you libel those kind hearted souls.

300 million people have 300 million opinions. I'm active on a firearm message board because I'm an enthusiast. There are definitely a few quirky people on there and quite honestly I've never seen that position come up.