Breaking: US sending 400 soldiers, Air Defense to Turkey

Acanthus

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Due to threats from Syria, it appears the military is responding by assisting our ally in securing some sites.

Turkey is probably our strongest ally in the region short of Kuwait.

It also appears that Turkey is getting air defense help from the Germans and Dutch as well.

http://news.yahoo.com/pentagon-send-missiles-400-troops-turkey-093600827.html

The U.S., Germany and the Netherlands are the only NATO members who have the upgraded PAC-3 missiles, capable of missile interception. Each battery has an average of 12 missile launchers, a NATO official said, speaking on condition of anonymity because alliance regulations do not allow him to speak on the record.
In a statement issued Friday NATO spokeswoman Oana Lungescu said "the deployment will be defensive only."
"It will not support a no-fly zone or any offensive operation. Its aim is to deter any threats to Turkey, to defend Turkey's population and territory and to de-escalate the crisis on NATO's south-eastern border," Lungescu said.
 
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piasabird

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We are trying to balance the budget and the president wants to take over the world for muslims. Is the President an idiot or a warmonger, is he just a facist Muslim Dictator? If a republican did this there would be an antiwar demonstration and chaos in the news. Why is it OK if a Liberal Facist is a war-monger?
 
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Jaskalas

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Curious.

Turkey must be happy that our presence would certainly require our response if Syria does anything stupid.
 

Acanthus

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We are trying to balance the budget and the president wants to take over the world for muslims. Is the President an idiot or a warmonger, is he just a facist Muslim Dictator? If a republican did this there would be an antiwar demonstration and chaos in the news. Why is it OK if a Liberal Facist is a war-monger?

This is using resources from the region (Afghanistan) and not new equipment.

Turkey is also a very strong ally of the west (they have been trying to join the EU for years).
 

trenchfoot

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Got deployed there way back in Desert Shield/Storm. The Turks I had the pleasure of working with were friendly and accommodating. But what I really enjoyed were the numerous Turkish women who IMO, are among the most beautiful in the world.

It was like "oh crap, there's another one I can't have, and and daaaa-yum, there's ANOTHER one I can't have, and aw geeeze louise, there's another, and another...."
 

feralkid

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We are trying to balance the budget and the president wants to take over the world for muslims. Is the President an idiot or a warmonger, is he just a facist Muslim Dictator? If a republican did this there would be an antiwar demonstration and chaos in the news. Why is it OK if a Liberal Facist is a war-monger?


Ever heard of NATO?


Turkey is one of our NATO allies, and we have certain treaty obligations to honor.
 

peonyu

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This is using resources from the region (Afghanistan) and not new equipment.

Turkey is also a very strong ally of the west (they have been trying to join the EU for years).


They are a decent ally sure, but if the EU ever lets them join you can kiss Europe good bye. A 99.8% Muslim country will surely use its vote to cater to its "people" [muslims], and thats not counting the vast demographic change Europe would experience as millions of Turks would likely move to Western Europe just as Poles and other dirt-poor eastern european EU nations are doing today.
 

techs

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A large Muslim country that is our ally?
That's a democracy?

Hell yes, send them some missiles.
 

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This is using resources from the region (Afghanistan) and not new equipment.

Turkey is also a very strong ally of the west (they have been trying to join the EU for years).

the EU has dicked around with turkey for years, so now turkey is turning its ambitions east.
 

WackyDan

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Ever heard of NATO?


Turkey is one of our NATO allies, and we have certain treaty obligations to honor.

True... as much as I want to focus on the tarnish on Obama's peace medal, this is an obligation to an ally that has almost always proved a better ally than some nations in the EU.
 

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the EU has dicked around with turkey for years, so now turkey is turning its ambitions east.

The EU doesn't have a chance in hell of getting Turkey now. They have had an economic growth of 9 percent for the past few years and they do not want to be a check writer for the EU.
 

peonyu

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You really know nothing about Poland or the people of Poland or about the Polish economy!

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/wor...rkers-as-it-follows-EU-immigration-rules.html

http://futurechallenges.org/local/one-way-ticket-for-polish-emigration-in-the-eu/


"After Poland joined the EU, thus gaining access to employment markets in the UK and Ireland, Polish workers flocked there in search of a better life. According to estimates by the Research Institute ARC Market and Opinion and Central Statistical Office, the total number of Poles working in EU countries is over 2.2 million witth the majority located in Ireland and the United Kingdom (over 1 million) and Germany (over 400,000). Needless to say, these figures refer only to Polish citizens registered in the host countries; the actual figure for Polish labor migrants is likely to be much higher."



The Polish economy sucks, theres not much to talk about as far as it goes. Turkey is 10x poorer than Poland and has more than twice the population, the EU is lucky it hasn't been dumb enough [yet] to admit Turkey into the EU. If they ever do its game over for the EU. As much as EU folks bitch about Poles it would be pebbles compared to the Hordes of Muslim-Turks swarming across their borders.
 

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I bet the Neocons and the Military industrial complex are rejoicing!

Now they need to just pay one of their CIA funded terrorists to shoot a rocket into Turkey, killing a couple of soldiers, and they have their war they cannot live without.

Awesome. :\
 

airdata

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All muslim countries are our friends once we replace their governments.. Then slowly they find their own way and then become our enemy and re repeat the cycle.
 

gevorg

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Now they need to just pay one of their CIA funded terrorists to shoot a rocket into Turkey, killing a couple of soldiers, and they have their war they cannot live without.

Awesome. :\

These Syrian terrists rebels will do that job just fine!
 

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Now they need to just pay one of their CIA funded terrorists to shoot a rocket into Turkey, killing a couple of soldiers, and they have their war they cannot live without.

Awesome. :\




What do you mean "they?" You and Autism voted for the President and he's the one doing it. Don't try to put it off as "they." You voted for the NeoCon expanding the wars and our presence in the ME, fucking own it.
 

blankslate

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We are trying to balance the budget and the president wants to take over the world for muslims. Is the President an idiot or a warmonger, is he just a facist Muslim Dictator? If a republican did this there would be an antiwar demonstration and chaos in the news. Why is it OK if a Liberal Facist is a war-monger?

Congratulations you have posted one of the stupidest most idiotic posts of today.... if not the week


As other people have pointed out.
Ever heard of NATO?

Turkey is one of our NATO allies, and we have certain treaty obligations to honor.

This is using resources from the region (Afghanistan) and not new equipment.

Turkey is also a very strong ally of the west (they have been trying to join the EU for years).

Or we could just follow your advice and angrily refuse to help one of our only allies in the region with a sizable muslim population.

Good God.
 

jackschmittusa

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It's actually a cheap form of goodwill, regardless of treaty obligations. And since it is an entirely defensive measure, it will be hard to criticize in the M.E. (except for some of the screwball extremists who are offended by our mere presence). And if we end up intercepting a couple of chemical warheads, it will be seen as heroic.

Seems to me that this is just what we should be doing.
 

werepossum

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It's actually a cheap form of goodwill, regardless of treaty obligations. And since it is an entirely defensive measure, it will be hard to criticize in the M.E. (except for some of the screwball extremists who are offended by our mere presence). And if we end up intercepting a couple of chemical warheads, it will be seen as heroic.

Seems to me that this is just what we should be doing.
Unfortunately there's another name for those "screwball extremists who are offended by our mere presence". They are also known as "damned near everyone in the Middle East". They hold meetings every Friday at mosques and decide which exact outrage they will protest that week. Their short term goal is 100% Muslims in the Middle East and all other "Muslim lands"; their long term goal is a 100% Islamic world.

Turkey however is Eurasian, only partly Middle East. So hopefully only some of the Turks will be offended. ;)