*BREAKING NEWS: Peyton Manning tests positive for hydraulic fluid* Week 6 NFL Thread

[smackababy]

Dear Jax Jag Fans,

I apologize in advance for the utter devastation and sheer destruction your team will undergo this Sunday in Denver.

The world is comprised of many of these yin-yang concepts. For each 0-16 team there will be a powerhouse trying to go undefeated. For every Blaine Gabbert there is a Peyton Manning out there to bring balance to the force. Some are comparing you to the 1978 Buccaneers, and the 2008 Lions. I don't think you are that bad, perhaps you will be able to win a game this season, but it won't be this week.

On the bright side, you guys have Justin Blackmon who should be there as a #1 receiver as you rebuild. On the down side, here are a few QB's drafted after Blaine Gabbert in the 2011 NFL draft: Andy Daltin, Colin Kaepernick and Ryan Mallett. Yes that was a poor choice there.

We Bronco fans appreciate your sacrifice on the way to our 19-0 season

Sincerely,

City of Denver

PS. Go Avalanche !!

Can I put this in my signature if the Jags beat Denver?

If you haven't seen the image already, it says "Choke - Official Soft Drink of Tony Romo."

From an objective standpoint, Romo is pretty good but he just has a tendency to screw something up at the last minute in crucial situations. Ever since his fumbled snap in that playoff game against the Seahags way back in '07.

Yeah, I saw it. It is sad that every QB has these moments, but Romo has had his bad moments in the most inopportune times enough people only remember that. Eli just threw the interception that cost them the game, but nobody will remember that a week or two down the road. They will remember how awesome his 4th quarter comeback drives are. Romo, on the other hand, has a near perfect game and throws a single interception in the last 2 minutes (which after a 500 yard / 5 touchdown performance shouldn't have mattered) and he is a choke artist.

Don't get me wrong, I by no means think Romo is the most clutch guy in the world, but a lot of that isn't just his fault. If the Cowboys had gotten one other 3 and out or held Denver to a field goal on just one other drive, Cowboys could have easily won.

 

[lupi]

So much lulz to be had when they don't go 19-0.

 

[MetalMat]

Can I put this in my signature if the Jags beat Denver?

People might start getting confused with the Broncos score and this on Sunday

 

[Nintendesert]

If you haven't seen the image already, it says "Choke - Official Soft Drink of Tony Romo."

From an objective standpoint, Romo is pretty good but he just has a tendency to screw something up at the last minute in crucial situations. Ever since his fumbled snap in that playoff game against the Seahags way back in '07.



Yeah, you win. Look, not trying to rub the nose of Jets fans in it but I musta watched the butt fumble like 100 times on youtube. My only gripe with the Sanchez injury is that we won't have a blooper reel for 2013/2014.


Just a thought on how bad the NFC East is this year. Prior to tonight's game, the Giants were 2 games out of first place...and they were 0-5 before tonight's game. Assuming the Cowgirls and Eagles also lose this week, they'd still only be 2 games out of first place at 0-6.

The stats just don't back up the assertion that Romo is a huge chock artist. The level of publicity his turnovers have received is what's created this false image of him. The fact is his numbers are better than all the QBs in the NFL spare 2 or 3. This is for comebacks and his turnover rate at the end of games.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4716706/is-there-a-trend-to-romos-picks-in-clutch

In the final three minutes of one-score games, Romo has had seven of 272 attempts intercepted during his career. A sample of Super Bowl winners with much higher pick percentages in such situations since Romo became a starter in 2006: Eli Manning (15 of 220), Drew Brees (13 of 234), Ben Roethlisberger (13 of 249) and Joe Flacco (seven of 136).

Romo has pulled off 18 fourth-quarter comebacks in his career, a few more than Roger Staubach, aka Captain Comeback. Romo has engineered 19 game-winning drives, including five last season. And Romo has the highest fourth-quarter passer rating (102.0) in NFL history.

Cowboys are generally hated by other fans, so any chance to disproportionally attribute losses to his choking at the end of games is taken. It's just not supported by the numbers. Perception however is reality for most people so it's a stigma he's stuck with that he's being forced to shed by being even better than other QBs.

 

[smackababy]

The stats just don't back up the assertion that Romo is a huge chock artist. The level of publicity his turnovers have received is what's created this false image of him. The fact is his numbers are better than all the QBs in the NFL spare 2 or 3. This is for comebacks and his turnover rate at the end of games.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4716706/is-there-a-trend-to-romos-picks-in-clutch






Cowboys are generally hated by other fans, so any chance to disproportionally attribute losses to his choking at the end of games is taken. It's just not supported by the numbers. Perception however is reality for most people so it's a stigma he's stuck with that he's being forced to shed by being even better than other QBs.

The problem is, at least what I believe the problem is, is that the Cowboys get a ton of publicity. So, when Romo drops a snap in the playoffs and loses the game or throws an interception with 2 minutes left and loses, it gets a lot of air play (regardless of Romos play). Last season Romo did great and most were quiet about him, but there were some great stories to cover instead (the freshman class of last year had some superstars, the replacement refs, Manning the greaters return).

 

[dougp]

You two are trying to make the argument I have for the past few years. No one wants to hear it, they just want to hate.

 

[purbeast0]

uh oh amdzen making another guaranteed prediction. we all know how that turned out last year!

just kidding, i agree with him on this one 100%.

 

[techs]

uh oh amdzen making another guaranteed prediction. we all know how that turned out last year!

just kidding, i agree with him on this one 100%.

Still, on any given Sunday.......

 

[purbeast0]

Still, on any given Sunday.......

on any given sunday, peyton will rape you!

 

[lupi]

Until peyton goes down 7 minutes into the game from a freak injury after a hard sack.

 

[MetalMat]

The stats just don't back up the assertion that Romo is a huge chock artist. The level of publicity his turnovers have received is what's created this false image of him. The fact is his numbers are better than all the QBs in the NFL spare 2 or 3. This is for comebacks and his turnover rate at the end of games.






Cowboys are generally hated by other fans, so any chance to disproportionally attribute losses to his choking at the end of games is taken. It's just not supported by the numbers. Perception however is reality for most people so it's a stigma he's stuck with that he's being forced to shed by being even better than other QBs.

Its been proven over and over again that Romo blows it when it comes down to the important games.

2006 - Famous botched field goal in the playoffs
2007 - Romo Throws a pick late in the 4th quarter against the giants, out of the playoffs
2008 - Not totally on Romo but the Cowboys stink it up in week 17 against the Eagles, had they won they would have made the playoffs
2009 - Romo fumbles twice and throws a pick, Cowboys get smoked by the Vikings in the playoffs
2010 - The Whole team just sucked
2011 - Yet again the Cowboys have a chance to make the playoffs with a week 17 win, Romo fumbles late in the 4th quarter and they lose
2012 - Yet again the Cowboys have a chance to make the playoffs with a week 17 win, Romo throws 3 picks including one late in the 4th quarter and they lose


Romo will be fantastic at times but will stick a dagger in your heart when you need him the most.

 

[purbeast0]

Until peyton goes down 7 minutes into the game from a freak injury after a hard sack.

100% honest truth ... i had a dream 2 nights ago that peyton got injured on a scramble and got drilled as he was running out of bounds lol. but it was a dream and was exaggerated and he like broke bones and stuff. in a dream it looked like something out of nfl blitz.

 

[AMDZen]

So much lulz to be had when they don't go 19-0.

Not really, never said they would go to 19-0 - just implied that this is their goal, obviously. As long as they win the last game, it doesn't matter if they lose one along the way

 

[diesbudt]

100% honest truth ... i had a dream 2 nights ago that peyton got injured on a scramble and got drilled as he was running out of bounds lol. but it was a dream and was exaggerated and he like broke bones and stuff. in a dream it looked like something out of nfl blitz.

You mean the free 5 seconds after the play is over to fucking mess up the person with the ball? lol

I don't know... I could see the Jags winning, it will not be easy. But going in with the mindset that its going to be a joke will hurt the Broncos. Even though they suck, the Jaguars are still made up from some of the top college players to make it to the NFL. They are also 5'6" - 6'6" like every other team. Heavy and muscular players just like them. You just never know. This is why you cannot count anyone out until it is over.

It isn't like the Broncos are going in and playing a 3 foot midgets team.

 

[AMDZen]

Until peyton goes down 7 minutes into the game from a freak injury after a hard sack.

Yea because he's been sacked so much this season even when going up against real pass rushers like Dumervil, Demarcus Ware, etc.

Jax's proficient pass rush is sure to succeed where they failed.

 

[rudeguy]

So much lulz to be had when they don't go 19-0.

every team's goal is to go 19-0.

If you have a few minutes, we can detail the differences between goals and expectations. For instance: my goal is to bang every hot girl on Earth but my expectation is that I will die a virgin.

Get it?

 

[zinfamous]

That's been one of the main QB storylines for the last decade.

I know he made the playoffs and all that, but couldn't remember precisely if they actually made it to the SB.

...really, a main QB storyline for the past decade? dude retired some 15 years ago. Sure, people talk about great players "that never won it" all the time, but I don't remember specifics of him actually making it to a SB in those discussions (again, too young to care when that actually happened), and I generally don't follow the mindless bloviating of sports chatter. :\

 

[lupi]

Something bad happening at AD's place.

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/9808039/adrian-peterson-son-injured-father-says

 

[rudeguy]

someone please talk me out of betting on the Jags.


Please

 

[AMDZen]

someone please talk me out of betting on the Jags.


Please

If the bet is for them to cover the spread - it might not be a bad bet. Manning may not even play after sometime in the 3rd quarter allowing Osweiller to not score at all and have the Jags come back a bit. If they lose by 20 then you still win. I'd make that bet

 

[zinfamous]

I got my ass handed to me last week when I just suggested that maybe Eli was getting old and it was time to trade him while he still has value.

Well, the value part is pretty much gone this season.

While we are on qb's I grew up a Jets fan living near their stadium. Ken Obrien and Richard Todd, two middle of the road qb's were gone by 33 after about 10-11 seasons. Eli is 32 and in his 10th year and the guy almost never missed a game. Most qb's are not Peyton or Eli or Favre. Carson Palmer is one year older than Eli and nobody is looking forward to him taking a team to the Super Bowl.

So, just possibly, maybe, could be, Eli has lost a little something in his throwing arm. And unlike some qb's he is unable to compensate with his smarts.

OK OK...so not only are you a bandwagoner Pat's fan, you abandoned your home team for their hated rival.

that takes some balls to admit.

 

[zinfamous]

We Bronco fans appreciate your sacrifice on the way to our 19-0 season

well, that's bold. I think not too bold for the regular season, considering the relatively easy schedule...but the playoffs? with Manning at the helm...history is not friendly to you, my friend.

 

[lupi]

It was brought up again last year about both RG3 attempting to play on a bumb leg and Strasburg being pulled out before the playoffs.

Marino making it to the SB during his first full year as a starter and never returning, much less winning, is a gold standard discussion of the NFL that carries over to other sports annually.

 

[zinfamous]

The stats just don't back up the assertion that Romo is a huge chock artist. The level of publicity his turnovers have received is what's created this false image of him. The fact is his numbers are better than all the QBs in the NFL spare 2 or 3. This is for comebacks and his turnover rate at the end of games.

http://espn.go.com/blog/dallas/cowboys/post/_/id/4716706/is-there-a-trend-to-romos-picks-in-clutch

Cowboys are generally hated by other fans, so any chance to disproportionally attribute losses to his choking at the end of games is taken. It's just not supported by the numbers. Perception however is reality for most people so it's a stigma he's stuck with that he's being forced to shed by being even better than other QBs.

The problem is, at least what I believe the problem is, is that the Cowboys get a ton of publicity. So, when Romo drops a snap in the playoffs and loses the game or throws an interception with 2 minutes left and loses, it gets a lot of air play (regardless of Romos play). Last season Romo did great and most were quiet about him, but there were some great stories to cover instead (the freshman class of last year had some superstars, the replacement refs, Manning the greaters return).

pretty much. But Romo's case is made worse because of the fumbled snap very early on in his career, in such a crucial game. This guy's ability was still very much up in the air--it was his first season, wasn't it? Maybe his first full season, iirc.

He didn't have a chance to be defined by 4th quarter comebacks, because he instantly became defined by such a catastrophic fuckup in such a crucial game. Shit happens that way. He hasn't done himself much service by playing to that type in people's minds.

I agree--it's unfair because I think he's actually very talented as a QB and probably 60% of the teams out there would prefer him to be starting for their team, but it seems that whenever he is involved in a high profile game--e.g the cusp of defeating the feared Denver Mannings, he manages to destroy a brilliant, career-defining performance with one late-game fuckup that forever colors that image.

He manages these comebacks in games that are off the radar--not in playoff games or big, national games or late season divisional games (afaik). That is the issue. Again, unfair, but it is what it is.

Romo needs to seriously consider some therapy. Maybe some hypnosis training that can help him find his zen moment in those situations. I'm serious about that, by the way.

 

[zinfamous]

uh oh amdzen making another guaranteed prediction. we all know how that turned out last year!

just kidding, i agree with him on this one 100%.

I think you missed the part where he said: 19-0

:hmm: