Breaking News - Gregg withdraws as Commerce Sec

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Bottom line, Gregg thought Obama was serious about reaching across the isle, so he wanted to sign on to be a part of the new administrtation. When he started meeting with Emanuel and other such ilk, the "we won, you lost, get over it" message was probably loud and clear and he didn't want to be a part of it. Sounds like he did exactly what he should have, step back and let the trainwreck go on it's own so they can't pin the blame on you later.

That may be a conclusion you want to believe, but it is exactly opposite of what Gregg repeatedly said during his press conference. Bascially he said I thought about it more and changed my mind. He admitted that HE initially approached the Obama administration about giving him the job. He minimalized the significance of the census. Gregg squarely took responsibility for his withdrawal decision, saying "I screwed up" repeatedly. And he spoke quite admiringly of Obama, and Obama's bipartisan efforts, throughout.

What else do you expect him to say? He indeed did make a mistake, the mistake of believing the current administration wants to be bipartisan. Once he got in there and quickly realized that was not the case, he realized his mistake and bailed.

 

[bdude]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: PokerGuy
Bottom line, Gregg thought Obama was serious about reaching across the isle, so he wanted to sign on to be a part of the new administrtation. When he started meeting with Emanuel and other such ilk, the "we won, you lost, get over it" message was probably loud and clear and he didn't want to be a part of it. Sounds like he did exactly what he should have, step back and let the trainwreck go on it's own so they can't pin the blame on you later.

That may be a conclusion you want to believe, but it is exactly opposite of what Gregg repeatedly said during his press conference. Bascially he said I thought about it more and changed my mind. He admitted that HE initially approached the Obama administration about giving him the job. He minimalized the significance of the census. Gregg squarely took responsibility for his withdrawal decision, saying "I screwed up" repeatedly. And he spoke quite admiringly of Obama, and Obama's bipartisan efforts, throughout.

What else do you expect him to say? He indeed did make a mistake, the mistake of believing the current administration wants to be bipartisan. Once he got in there and quickly realized that was not the case, he realized his mistake and bailed.

Funny.

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

What else do you expect him to say? He indeed did make a mistake, the mistake of believing the current administration wants to be bipartisan. Once he got in there and quickly realized that was not the case, he realized his mistake and bailed.

Once again you aren't letting the facts interfer with your "analysis." The fact of the matter is that Gregg never became Secretary of Commerce, so how can you possibly claim "Once he got in there and quickly released that was not the case. . . "

I swear since W.F. Buckley died the concept of any sort of critical thinking has been totally abandoned by the GOP and replaced with sloganeering.

 

[SP33Demon]

Apparently the rumor is that the WH wants to institute statistical estimates for people who aren't counted which is horsesht because statistics can be manipulated in any way. It's unconstitutional (see: enumeration in our Constitution) and hopefully we continue counting people one by one. It was one of the few things the Bush admin got correct and Clinton fcked up; political boundaries are at stake here and Gregg probably didn't want to be associated with it.

 

[PokerGuy]

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

What else do you expect him to say? He indeed did make a mistake, the mistake of believing the current administration wants to be bipartisan. Once he got in there and quickly realized that was not the case, he realized his mistake and bailed.

Once again you aren't letting the facts interfer with your "analysis." The fact of the matter is that Gregg never became Secretary of Commerce, so how can you possibly claim "Once he got in there and quickly released that was not the case. . . "

Huh? Everything indicated that he was tapped to be the secretary of commerce. Are you telling me that happened without any kind of discussions between the administration and Gregg? Of course not. Once they had some more detailed discussions with him about things like the census, the fleecing of america "stimulus" etc, he saw what was coming and said "no thanks". This makes perfect sense to anyone who isn't a blind partisan.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

What else do you expect him to say? He indeed did make a mistake, the mistake of believing the current administration wants to be bipartisan. Once he got in there and quickly realized that was not the case, he realized his mistake and bailed.

Once again you aren't letting the facts interfer with your "analysis." The fact of the matter is that Gregg never became Secretary of Commerce, so how can you possibly claim "Once he got in there and quickly released that was not the case. . . "

Huh? Everything indicated that he was tapped to be the secretary of commerce. Are you telling me that happened without any kind of discussions between the administration and Gregg? Of course not. Once they had some more detailed discussions with him about things like the census, the fleecing of america "stimulus" etc, he saw what was coming and said "no thanks". This makes perfect sense to anyone who isn't a blind partisan.

Your homework assignment for tonight is to watch the video of WHAT HE SAID and stop pulling shit out of your ass. I understand that your own little reality is probably easier for you to deal with but sooner or later you are going to have to come to terms with the fact that it is a fantasy.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Are there any rep left on Obamas staff. I really would like to see all of this on the Dem . Rep should just walk away from the government as they are not needed. And it will surely wake America up .The republicans have an opertunity here to walk away from washington . As a result it could save us . Because it would be one hugh wake up call.

 

[Nemesis 1]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Are there any rep left on Obamas staff. I really would like to see all of this on the Dem . Rep should just walk away from the government as they are not needed. And it will surely wake America up .The republicans have an opertunity here to walk away from washington . As a result it could save us . Because it would be one hugh wake up call.

Hay I live in blue state. But man people are really getting jumpy around here. Its crazy. We aren't even affected by the economic Bs. People are wound tight.

 

[Nemesis 1]

A day after dropping out of cabinet contention, New Hampshire Sen. Judd Gregg says he will vote against the $787 billion stimulus package.

Gregg said Friday the package contains a great deal of money that isn't well spent. He said he can support a robust stimulus package that focuses more on shoring up the real estate market and keeping people in their homes. He said it also should have focused more aggressively on small business tax breaks.

Gregg said the amount of money isn't the issue. Rather, he said it is the underlying policy.

On Thursday, Gregg withdrew as President Obama's nominee as commerce secretary.

 

[Thump553]

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

What else do you expect him to say? He indeed did make a mistake, the mistake of believing the current administration wants to be bipartisan. Once he got in there and quickly realized that was not the case, he realized his mistake and bailed.

Once again you aren't letting the facts interfer with your "analysis." The fact of the matter is that Gregg never became Secretary of Commerce, so how can you possibly claim "Once he got in there and quickly released that was not the case. . . "

Huh? Everything indicated that he was tapped to be the secretary of commerce. Are you telling me that happened without any kind of discussions between the administration and Gregg? Of course not. Once they had some more detailed discussions with him about things like the census, the fleecing of america "stimulus" etc, he saw what was coming and said "no thanks". This makes perfect sense to anyone who isn't a blind partisan.

Go to CSPAN & watch the press conference and listen to Gregg in his own words. Like I said (several times) above you are ignoring the evidence. Gregg made it very clear that the census was a minor point at most in his decision to back out. And Greg certainly knew the basic gist of Obama's stimulus plan before his nomination or he is a hopelessly uninformed Senator.

I find it ironically humorous you accuse me of being a blind partisan when you spout these unsupported conclusions.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1

Originally posted by: Nemesis 1
Are there any rep left on Obamas staff. I really would like to see all of this on the Dem . Rep should just walk away from the government as they are not needed. And it will surely wake America up .The republicans have an opertunity here to walk away from washington . As a result it could save us . Because it would be one hugh wake up call.

Hay I live in blue state. But man people are really getting jumpy around here. Its crazy. We aren't even affected by the economic Bs. People are wound tight.

These are two of the worst formed posts I have ever tried to read, and let's not overlook the fact that you quoted yourself.

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

Originally posted by: Thump553

Originally posted by: PokerGuy

What else do you expect him to say? He indeed did make a mistake, the mistake of believing the current administration wants to be bipartisan. Once he got in there and quickly realized that was not the case, he realized his mistake and bailed.

Once again you aren't letting the facts interfer with your "analysis." The fact of the matter is that Gregg never became Secretary of Commerce, so how can you possibly claim "Once he got in there and quickly released that was not the case. . . "

Huh? Everything indicated that he was tapped to be the secretary of commerce. Are you telling me that happened without any kind of discussions between the administration and Gregg? Of course not. Once they had some more detailed discussions with him about things like the census, the fleecing of america "stimulus" etc, he saw what was coming and said "no thanks". This makes perfect sense to anyone who isn't a blind partisan.

Go to CSPAN & watch the press conference and listen to Gregg in his own words. Like I said (several times) above you are ignoring the evidence. Gregg made it very clear that the census was a minor point at most in his decision to back out. And Greg certainly knew the basic gist of Obama's stimulus plan before his nomination or he is a hopelessly uninformed Senator.

I find it ironically humorous you accuse me of being a blind partisan when you spout these unsupported conclusions.

He doesn't want to listen to facts. They get in the way of the stuff he knows.

 

[sciwizam]

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: sciwizam
Can you spot the spin? :laugh:

"This is not the Senator Gregg I once knew"

LOOK OUT Senator! Here comes the bus!

Truth behind the spin: Harry Reid Spokesman: Rahm Asked For Names, We Offered Gregg

 

[SirStev0]

Originally posted by: sciwizam

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: sciwizam
Can you spot the spin? :laugh:

"This is not the Senator Gregg I once knew"

LOOK OUT Senator! Here comes the bus!

Truth behind the spin: Harry Reid Spokesman: Rahm Asked For Names, We Offered Gregg

Well... I guess than Gregg is a liar... since his own comments say the exact opposite.

 

[sciwizam]

Originally posted by: SirStev0

Originally posted by: sciwizam

Originally posted by: spidey07

Originally posted by: sciwizam
Can you spot the spin? :laugh:

"This is not the Senator Gregg I once knew"

LOOK OUT Senator! Here comes the bus!

Truth behind the spin: Harry Reid Spokesman: Rahm Asked For Names, We Offered Gregg

Well... I guess than Gregg is a liar... since his own comments say the exact opposite.

Did you even read the link? What part of this suggests Gregg was the person who contacted the White House?

I asked Reid's spokesman, Jim Manley to help me clear the air of confusion. And this is what he had to say: Chief of Staff Rahm Emanuel "asked for ideas" and "Reid suggested Gregg as a possibility."

Had Gregg ever expressed interest in being Commerce Secretary to Reid? "I don't believe he ever did," Manley replied.