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BREAKING: Bush bio-lab trailer claim debunked before a 2003 speech

Phokus

Lifer
You know how neo-con winguts keep saying bush never lied and the intel was bad? You guys are living a seperate reality from the rest of the world.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/co...rticle/2006/04/11/AR2006041101888.html


On May 29, 2003, 50 days after the fall of Baghdad, President Bush proclaimed a fresh victory for his administration in Iraq: Two small trailers captured by U.S. and Kurdish troops had turned out to be long-sought mobile "biological laboratories." He declared, "We have found the weapons of mass destruction."

The claim, repeated by top administration officials for months afterward, was hailed at the time as a vindication of the decision to go to war. But even as Bush spoke, U.S. intelligence officials possessed powerful evidence that it was not true.

A secret fact-finding mission to Iraq -- not made public until now -- had already concluded that the trailers had nothing to do with biological weapons. Leaders of the Pentagon-sponsored mission transmitted their unanimous findings to Washington in a field report on May 27, 2003, two days before the president's statement.

The three-page field report and a 122-page final report three weeks later were stamped "secret" and shelved. Meanwhile, for nearly a year, administration and intelligence officials continued to publicly assert that the trailers were weapons factories.

The authors of the reports were nine U.S. and British civilian experts -- scientists and engineers with extensive experience in all the technical fields involved in making bioweapons -- who were dispatched to Baghdad by the Defense Intelligence Agency for an analysis of the trailers. Their actions and findings were described to a Washington Post reporter in interviews with six government officials and weapons experts who participated in the mission or had direct knowledge of it.

None would consent to being identified by name because of fear that their jobs would be jeopardized. Their accounts were verified by other current and former government officials knowledgeable about the mission. The contents of the final report, "Final Technical Engineering Exploitation Report on Iraqi Suspected Biological Weapons-Associated Trailers," remain classified. But interviews reveal that the technical team was unequivocal in its conclusion that the trailers were not intended to manufacture biological weapons. Those interviewed took care not to discuss the classified portions of their work.

"There was no connection to anything biological," said one expert who studied the trailers. Another recalled an epithet that came to be associated with the trailers: "the biggest sand toilets in the world."

Primary Piece of Evidence

The story of the technical team and its reports adds a new dimension to the debate over the U.S. government's handling of intelligence related to banned Iraqi weapons programs. The trailers -- along with aluminum tubes acquired by Iraq for what was claimed to be a nuclear weapons program -- were primary pieces of evidence offered by the Bush administration before the war to support its contention that Iraq was making weapons of mass destruction.

Intelligence officials and the White House have repeatedly denied allegations that intelligence was hyped or manipulated in the run-up to the U.S.-led invasion of Iraq in March 2003. But officials familiar with the technical team's reports are questioning anew whether intelligence agencies played down or dismissed postwar evidence that contradicted the administration's public views about Iraq's weapons of mass destruction. Last year, a presidential commission on intelligence failures criticized U.S. spy agencies for discounting evidence that contradicted the official line about banned weapons in Iraq, both before and after the invasion.

Spokesmen for the CIA and the Defense Intelligence Agency declined to comment on the specific findings of the technical report because it remains classified. A spokesman for the DIA asserted that the team's findings were neither ignored nor suppressed, but were incorporated in the work of the Iraqi Survey Group, which led the official search for Iraqi weapons of mass destruction. The survey group's final report in September 2004 -- 15 months after the technical report was written -- said the trailers were "impractical" for biological weapons production and were "almost certainly intended" for manufacturing hydrogen for weather balloons.

"Whether the information was offered to others in the political realm I cannot say," said the DIA official, who spoke on the condition that he not be identified.

Intelligence analysts involved in high-level discussions about the trailers noted that the technical team was among several groups that analyzed the suspected mobile labs throughout the spring and summer of 2003. Two teams of military experts who viewed the trailers soon after their discovery concluded that the facilities were weapons labs, a finding that strongly influenced views of intelligence officials in Washington, the analysts said. "It was hotly debated, and there were experts making arguments on both sides," said one former senior official who spoke on the condition that he not be identified.

The technical team's findings had no apparent impact on the intelligence agencies' public statements on the trailers. A day after the team's report was transmitted to Washington -- May 28, 2003 -- the CIA publicly released its first formal assessment of the trailers, reflecting the views of its Washington analysts. That white paper, which also bore the DIA seal, contended that U.S. officials were "confident" that the trailers were used for "mobile biological weapons production."

Throughout the summer and fall of 2003, the trailers became simply "mobile biological laboratories" in speeches and press statements by administration officials. In late June, Secretary of State Colin L. Powell declared that the "confidence level is increasing" that the trailers were intended for biowarfare. In September, Vice President Cheney pronounced the trailers to be "mobile biological facilities," and said they could have been used to produce anthrax or smallpox.

By autumn, leaders of the Iraqi Survey Group were publicly expressing doubts about the trailers in news reports. David Kay, the group's first leader, told Congress on Oct. 2 that he had found no banned weapons in Iraq and was unable to verify the claim that the disputed trailers were weapons labs. Still, as late as February 2004, then-CIA Director George J. Tenet continued to assert that the mobile-labs theory remained plausible. Although there was "no consensus" among intelligence officials, the trailers "could be made to work" as weapons labs, he said in a speech Feb. 5.

Tenet, now a faculty member at Georgetown's Edmund A. Walsh School of Foreign Service, declined to comment for this story.

Kay, in an interview, said senior CIA officials had advised him upon accepting the survey group's leadership in June 2003 that some experts in the DIA were "backsliding" on whether the trailers were weapons labs. But Kay said he was not apprised of the technical team's findings until late 2003, near the end of his time as the group's leader.

"If I had known that we had such a team in Iraq," Kay said, "I would certainly have given their findings more weight."

A Defector's Tales

Even before the trailers were seized in spring 2003, the mobile labs had achieved mythic stature. As early as the mid-1990s, weapons inspectors from the United Nations chased phantom mobile labs that were said to be mounted on trucks or rail cars, churning out tons of anthrax by night and moving to new locations each day. No such labs were found, but many officials believed the stories, thanks in large part to elaborate tales told by Iraqi defectors.

The CIA's star informant, an Iraqi with the code name Curveball, was a self-proclaimed chemical engineer who defected to Germany in 1999 and requested asylum. For four years, the Baghdad native passed secrets about alleged Iraqi banned weapons to the CIA indirectly, through Germany's intelligence service. Curveball provided descriptions of mobile labs and said he had supervised work in one of them. He even described a catastrophic 1998 accident in one lab that left 12 Iraqis dead.

Curveball's detailed descriptions -- which were officially discredited in 2004 -- helped CIA artists create color diagrams of the labs, which Powell later used to argue the case for military intervention in Iraq before the U.N. Security Council.

"We have firsthand descriptions of biological weapons factories on wheels and on rails," Powell said in the Feb. 5, 2003, speech. Thanks to those descriptions, he said, "We know what the fermenters look like. We know what the tanks, pumps, compressors and other parts look like."

The trailers discovered in the Iraqi desert resembled the drawings well enough, at least from a distance. One of them, a flatbed trailer covered by tarps, was found in April by Kurdish fighters near the northern city of Irbil. The second was captured by U.S. forces near Mosul. Both were painted military green and outfitted with a suspicious array of gear: large metal tanks, motors, compressors, pipes and valves.

Photos of the trailers were quickly circulated, and many weapons experts were convinced that the long-sought mobile labs had been found.

Yet reaction from Iraqi sources was troublingly inconsistent. Curveball, shown photos of the trailers, confirmed they were mobile labs and even pointed out key features. But other Iraqi informants in internal reports disputed Curveball's story and claimed the trailers had a benign purpose: producing hydrogen for weather balloons.

Back at the Pentagon, DIA officials attempted a quick resolution of the dispute. The task fell to the "Jefferson Project," a DIA-led initiative made up of government and civilian technical experts who specialize in analyzing and countering biological threats. Project leaders put together a team of volunteers, eight Americans and a Briton, each with at least a decade of experience in one of the essential technical skills needed for bioweapons production. All were nongovernment employees working for defense contractors or the Energy Department's national labs.

The technical team was assembled in Kuwait and then flown to Baghdad to begin their work early on May 25, 2003. By that date, the two trailers had been moved to a military base on the grounds of one of deposed president Saddam Hussein's Baghdad palaces. When members of the technical team arrived, they found the trailers parked in an open lot, covered with camouflage netting.

The technical team went to work under a blistering sun in 110-degree temperatures. Using tools from home, they peered into vats, turned valves, tapped gauges and measured pipes. They reconstructed a flow-path through feed tanks and reactor vessels, past cooling chambers and drain valves, and into discharge tanks and exhaust pipes. They took hundreds of photographs.

By the end of their first day, team members still had differing views about what the trailers were. But they agreed about what the trailers were not.

"Within the first four hours," said one team member, who like the others spoke on the condition he not be named, "it was clear to everyone that these were not biological labs."

News of the team's early impressions leaped across the Atlantic well ahead of the technical report. Over the next two days, a stream of anxious e-mails and phone calls from Washington pressed for details and clarifications.

The reason for the nervousness was soon obvious: In Washington, a CIA analyst had written a draft white paper on the trailers, an official assessment that would also reflect the views of the DIA. The white paper described the trailers as "the strongest evidence to date that Iraq was hiding a biological warfare program." It also explicitly rejected an explanation by Iraqi officials, described in a New York Times article a few days earlier, that the trailers might be mobile units for producing hydrogen.

But the technical team's preliminary report, written in a tent in Baghdad and approved by each team member, reached a conclusion opposite from that of the white paper.

Key Components Lacking

Team members and other sources intimately familiar with the mission declined to discuss technical details of the team's findings because the report remains classified. But they cited the Iraqi Survey Group's nonclassified, final report to Congress in September 2004 as reflecting the same conclusions.

That report said the trailers were "impractical for biological agent production," lacking 11 components that would be crucial for making bioweapons. Instead, the trailers were "almost certainly designed and built for the generation of hydrogen," the survey group reported.

The group's report and members of the technical team also dismissed the notion that the trailers could be easily modified to produce weapons.

"It would be easier to start all over with just a bucket," said Rod Barton, an Australian biological weapons expert and former member of the survey group.

The technical team's preliminary report was transmitted in the early hours of May 27, just before its members began boarding planes to return home. Within 24 hours, the CIA published its white paper, "Iraqi Mobile Biological Warfare Agent Production Plants," on its Web site.

After team members returned to Washington, they began work on a final report. At several points, members were questioned about revising their conclusions, according to sources knowledgeable about the conversations. The questioners generally wanted to know the same thing: Could the report's conclusions be softened, to leave open a possibility that the trailers might have been intended for weapons?

In the end, the final report -- 19 pages plus a 103-page appendix -- remained unequivocal in declaring the trailers unsuitable for weapons production.

"It was very assertive," said one weapons expert familiar with the report's contents.

Then, their mission completed, the team members returned to their jobs and watched as their work appeared to vanish.

"I went home and fully expected that our findings would be publicly stated," one member recalled. "It never happened. And I just had to live with it."
 
Originally posted by: ntdz
THe 2003 SOTU happened before the Iraq War...we found those trailers in April of 2003...?

Yeah, i copied/pasted the subject line from someone else, didn't check it... i'll edit it.
 
Take the SOTU part out and it's still damning. Damning in a relative, typically meaningless sense however since all of these ciriticisms are amounting to a hill of beans. Kind of seems like the guy could eat babies at this point and still a.) be a righteous man of God sent forth to usher in the Second Coming (!) , and b.) retaining the legal insulation of a republican controlled congress and judiciary.
 
Just heard on NPR on the way home an interview w/ the author of this article.. he said that contrary (or supporting.. depends how you look at it) to what WhiteHouse, spokesman Scott McClellan said this morning, he had no evidence nor meant to infer that Bush actually knew about the questionability of the evidence. He went on to say that many other intelligence agencies outside of the US had a corroborated opinion w/ the WH that the bio-lab trailers were in fact, real. Further (and obviously) the WH was, of course, biased, as is any other administration, group and/or individual attempting to make a case/prove a point. Duh.

but hey, don?t let the horse?s-mouth get in the way of the Bush-bashing/nitwit-hyperbole that?s surely in the wings for this thread..
/yawn
 
McClellan said today that the Washington Post and ABC news should apologize to the President for claiming he knew about the bio-lab trailers not being used for WMDs and the manufacture of bio weapons prior to his speech claiming the opposite. I guess now we're supposed to believe that the President either didn't look at the intel or glanced at it and chose (cherry picking intelligence again) the intel he wanted form the report to bolster his case and make the stupid claim that WMDs had been found. I find it impossible to believe that the President didn't see it nor that he wasn't informed what the entirety of the report said. So he's either a liar or an idiot or how about both.
 
Originally posted by: ValuedCustomer
Just heard on NPR on the way home an interview w/ the author of this article.. he said that contrary (or supporting.. depends how you look at it) to what WhiteHouse, spokesman Scott McClellan said this morning, he had no evidence nor meant to infer that Bush actually knew about the questionability of the evidence. He went on to say that many other intelligence agencies outside of the US had a corroborated opinion w/ the WH that the bio-lab trailers were in fact, real. Further (and obviously) the WH was, of course, biased, as is any other administration, group and/or individual attempting to make a case/prove a point. Duh.

but hey, don?t let the horse?s-mouth get in the way of the Bush-bashing/nitwit-hyperbole that?s surely in the wings for this thread..
/yawn

Ya, poor Bush he didn't know. He's not in the loop. Maybe he shouldn't say anything in public, it tends to make him look uninformed or like a liar.
 
HAHA! If anyone has any sense of technical knowledge they would realize how hard it would be to make biochemicals in the back of a uhaul truck.
 
Originally posted by: ValuedCustomer
Just heard on NPR on the way home an interview w/ the author of this article.. he said that contrary (or supporting.. depends how you look at it) to what WhiteHouse, spokesman Scott McClellan said this morning, he had no evidence nor meant to infer that Bush actually knew about the questionability of the evidence. He went on to say that many other intelligence agencies outside of the US had a corroborated opinion w/ the WH that the bio-lab trailers were in fact, real. Further (and obviously) the WH was, of course, biased, as is any other administration, group and/or individual attempting to make a case/prove a point. Duh.

but hey, don?t let the horse?s-mouth get in the way of the Bush-bashing/nitwit-hyperbole that?s surely in the wings for this thread..
/yawn

Yeah - That's believable. Bush didn't know. Like they weren't waiting for confirmation from that field team of experts. Totally believable that Bush didn't know that a team of experts was over there trying to justify his casus belli.

So you have a couple choices: Either Bush didn't know that a team of experts was investigating the only evidence of potential WMD's that we found, which makes him incompetent; or Bush lied about the WMD / trailers. Your choice. Is Bush incompetent or is he a liar? Or is he both?

And it is especially choice how the BushCo mouthpiece said that they had to vet the information for a couple of months. Something this important and it takes a couple months to vet? Yeah - that's totally believable too.

They talked about the trailers as WMD for months. It was propaganda intended to be planted firmly in the freepi's pea--sized brains. Just like the laughably bogus Niger yellowcake claims.

Don't you guys ever get tired of sticking up for his incompetency and lying?

 
Originally posted by: strummer
Originally posted by: ValuedCustomer
Just heard on NPR on the way home an interview w/ the author of this article.. he said that contrary (or supporting.. depends how you look at it) to what WhiteHouse, spokesman Scott McClellan said this morning, he had no evidence nor meant to infer that Bush actually knew about the questionability of the evidence. He went on to say that many other intelligence agencies outside of the US had a corroborated opinion w/ the WH that the bio-lab trailers were in fact, real. Further (and obviously) the WH was, of course, biased, as is any other administration, group and/or individual attempting to make a case/prove a point. Duh.

but hey, don?t let the horse?s-mouth get in the way of the Bush-bashing/nitwit-hyperbole that?s surely in the wings for this thread..
/yawn

Yeah - That's believable. Bush didn't know. Like they weren't waiting for confirmation from that field team of experts. Totally believable that Bush didn't know that a team of experts was over there trying to justify his casus belli.

So you have a couple choices: Either Bush didn't know that a team of experts was investigating the only evidence of potential WMD's that we found, which makes him incompetent; or Bush lied about the WMD / trailers. Your choice. Is Bush incompetent or is he a liar? Or is he both?

And it is especially choice how the BushCo mouthpiece said that they had to vet the information for a couple of months. Something this important and it takes a couple months to vet? Yeah - that's totally believable too.

They talked about the trailers as WMD for months. It was propaganda intended to be planted firmly in the freepi's pea--sized brains. Just like the laughably bogus Niger yellowcake claims.

Don't you guys ever get tired of sticking up for his incompetency and lying?


Touche'
 
Originally posted by: strummer
Originally posted by: ValuedCustomer
Just heard on NPR on the way home an interview w/ the author of this article.. he said that contrary (or supporting.. depends how you look at it) to what WhiteHouse, spokesman Scott McClellan said this morning, he had no evidence nor meant to infer that Bush actually knew about the questionability of the evidence. He went on to say that many other intelligence agencies outside of the US had a corroborated opinion w/ the WH that the bio-lab trailers were in fact, real. Further (and obviously) the WH was, of course, biased, as is any other administration, group and/or individual attempting to make a case/prove a point. Duh.

but hey, don?t let the horse?s-mouth get in the way of the Bush-bashing/nitwit-hyperbole that?s surely in the wings for this thread..
/yawn

Yeah - That's believable. Bush didn't know. Like they weren't waiting for confirmation from that field team of experts. Totally believable that Bush didn't know that a team of experts was over there trying to justify his casus belli.

So you have a couple choices: Either Bush didn't know that a team of experts was investigating the only evidence of potential WMD's that we found, which makes him incompetent; or Bush lied about the WMD / trailers. Your choice. Is Bush incompetent or is he a liar? Or is he both?

And it is especially choice how the BushCo mouthpiece said that they had to vet the information for a couple of months. Something this important and it takes a couple months to vet? Yeah - that's totally believable too.

They talked about the trailers as WMD for months. It was propaganda intended to be planted firmly in the freepi's pea--sized brains. Just like the laughably bogus Niger yellowcake claims.

Don't you guys ever get tired of sticking up for his incompetency and lying?

Well the only downside to lemmings is once one goes over a cliff, they all do

 
It looks like the Washington Post may have jumped the gun on this one.

Link
The Washington Post reported Wednesday that experts on a Pentagon-sponsored mission who examined the trailers concluded that they had nothing to do with biological weapons and sent their findings to Washington in a classified report on May 27, 2003.

One day later, the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency publicly issued an assessment saying the opposite ? that U.S. officials were confident that the trailers were used to produce biological weapons. The assessment said the mobile facilities represented "the strongest evidence to date that Iraq was hiding a biological warfare program." On May 29, 2003, the president repeated the claims from the public intelligence report.
Not quite the way WP reported it...

While the trailers were later (months later) determined not to be mobile weapons labs, at the time that Dub made his statement he was working with current information and was not repeating a known falsehood.
 
i was aware of this a long time ago..this isnt new, im not criticizing the op for posting it..it just disturbs me how info that was available at the time it happened is somehow now just revealed

my girlfriend and i made a massive binder of all the news stories and info with the intelligence arguements back and forth and this one was debunked pretty much instantaneously
 
Originally posted by: LumbergTech
i was aware of this a long time ago..this isnt new, im not criticizing the op for posting it..it just disturbs me how info that was available at the time it happened is somehow now just revealed

my girlfriend and i made a massive binder of all the news stories and info with the intelligence arguements back and forth and this one was debunked pretty much instantaneously

Your girlfriend and yourself didn't have anything better to do? 😛
 
Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
It looks like the Washington Post may have jumped the gun on this one.

Link
The Washington Post reported Wednesday that experts on a Pentagon-sponsored mission who examined the trailers concluded that they had nothing to do with biological weapons and sent their findings to Washington in a classified report on May 27, 2003.

One day later, the Central Intelligence Agency and Defense Intelligence Agency publicly issued an assessment saying the opposite ? that U.S. officials were confident that the trailers were used to produce biological weapons. The assessment said the mobile facilities represented "the strongest evidence to date that Iraq was hiding a biological warfare program." On May 29, 2003, the president repeated the claims from the public intelligence report.
Not quite the way WP reported it...

While the trailers were later (months later) determined not to be mobile weapons labs, at the time that Dub made his statement he was working with current information and was not repeating a known falsehood.

Or...maybe they realized they had false information, and just released their CIA/DIA report to counteract the Pentagon one, a la Plamegate. The timing sure seems kinda suspect. With this president, we can't assume anything.

It also seems funny that the DIA did not know about the Pentagon-sponsored report! No wonder the DIA got it wrong, they can't even get the correct intelligence from their own backyard! If I had my conspiricy hat on, I would think the Pentagon was looking for reasons to discredit the Bush administration, mainly because there were so many high-ranking military members in the Pentagon who were against the military action in the first place.

 
Good thing the USA only impeaches presidents who lie about their sex-life, and not when they lie about reasons of starting wars and causing the deaths of thousands of US soldiers.

Just like more US soldiers will probably have to die soon in order to ensure Iranian oil will use the Dollar rather than the Euro in the future.
 
Try this one on for size . . . in SEPTEMBER 2003 Cheney was still claiming we found mobile bioweapons labs. I guess he was too busy declassifying propaganda to actually read anything.
 
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