Breaking: bombing suspect to be tried as civilian.

[Steeplerot]

"I killed Americans and all I got for it was this lousy tea shirt".

Freudian slip

 

[Incorruptible]

So the theme is going to be "the brother put him up to it"?
Reminds me of the scene in the film Schindler's List where the Nazi is asking a lineup of prisoners "who took the chicken", and the boy points at one of the dead prisoners saying "he did it".
Im guessing it will be life in prison, cable tv, library, internet, three squares a day, full medical, gym, college, and birthday cards from mom and dad. Probably several tv spots on the best news shows from time to time. And then, his own reality tv show, "I killed Americans and all I got for it was this lousy tea shirt".

Hey moron, Did you not realize that the suspects aren't Tea Party?

Pathetic how you use the deaths of innocent people to attack the Tea Party

 

[JulesMaximus]

Hey moron, Did you not realize that the suspects aren't Tea Party?

Pathetic how you use the deaths of innocent people to attack the Tea Party

Who needs the death of innocent people to attack the tea party? Those loons stand on their own insanity.

 

[Doppel]

Civilian court is appropriate.

 

[Wreckem]

The question is 'which due process'.



http://www.bataraimmigrationlaw.com/denaturalization-revocation-citizenship.html

He only received citizenship a matter of months ago (either Sept or Dec of last year, depending upon the source). Is it possible he went ahead with citizenship, even though he hated the USA, in anticipation of better treatment?

Fern

He'd still have the same due process even if he wasnt a US citizen.

As for denaturalization. So far they are saying they have found no ties to terrorist organizations. And even if the brother does have ties, doesn't mean the younger brother was also a member.

 

[umbrella39]

Who needs the death of innocent people to attack the tea party? Those loons stand on their own insanity.

Indeed... they are like Libertarians but slightly more patriotic and intelligent...

 

[Balt]

Civilian court is appropriate.

Indeed. While I have zero sympathy for this murdering scumbag, I'm very disappointed that some notable senators were calling for him to be labeled as an "enemy combatant" just to avoid civilian courts.

Edit: 'Disappointed' is probably not the right word. 'Disgusted' would be more accurate.

 

[IronWing]

The only true penalty in the bomber case has to be death. But the liberals are not up to the job. Send the suspect to Texas, we know how to take care of criminals.

Make up evidence and, when caught doing so, kill them anyway? Yeah, Texas knows justice.

 

[nextJin]

Indeed... they are like Libertarians but slightly more patriotic and intelligent...

Nice slam on libertarians! Those tea party folks are PhD's in a world of silly pot head libertarian douche bags!

+1

 

[JEDIYoda]

This doesn't mean that the right thing will be done (which would be restitution to the victims' families), but I'm still somewhat pleasantly surprised.

so how exactly do you propose restitution to the families be carried out??

 

[Anarchist420]

so how exactly do you propose restitution to the families be carried out??

the families would own the suspect and they could do whatever they wanted to him.

 

[s0me0nesmind1]

Make up evidence and, when caught doing so, kill them anyway? Yeah, Texas knows justice.

Yes, yes, we all know the drill. "Justice", apparently, is putting them in a home with a roof, food, gym for health, and outside activities on a daily basis - all of which many upstanding citizens do not have access to one or all of the above.

PAID EXCLUSIVELY BY..... <Wait for it> YOUUUUUUUUU! Weeeeeeeeeeeeeeee :awe:

 

[Murloc]

But then again, Massachusetts does not support the death penality which will be the only true form of justice. Massachusetts did not think it all the way through by abolishing the death penalty.

that's just your opinion.
I would not want death penalty for a terrorist because I oppose death penalty period.
You're saying it like if you knew that everyone in massachusetts would like death penalty for him right now, I wouldn't be so sure about that. Not everyone is a hyprocrite.

Spread hate in prison? More like getting his ass kicked because he's a scrawny child killer.

 

[Fern]

He'd still have the same due process even if he wasnt a US citizen.
-snip-

Even aside form from the whole "enemy combatant" thing, it is not clear if he would have had the exact same rights as a citizen. We had a case that I believe went to the SCOTUS. It involved a Mexican national. I cannot recall the details ATM, but but he wasn't granted the all the "Due Process" (using that term broadly) in that evidence was admitted in the charges against him that would not be allowed were he a US citizen.

I say in this case it's not clear because the Mexican didn't have a Green Card whereas Dzokar (sp?) did (before he was granted citizenship). Since the SCOTUS never ruled on that point (they didn't need to in that case) we can't know for certain what would apply here.

Fern

 

[Darwin333]

Link.

I'd have been happier if the U.S. govt stayed out of it and left it to the State of Massachusetts, but at least he should be getting due process.

This doesn't mean that the right thing will be done (which would be restitution to the victims' families), but I'm still somewhat pleasantly surprised.

Outstanding news.

 

[bradley]

Link.

I'd have been happier if the U.S. govt stayed out of it and left it to the State of Massachusetts, but at least he should be getting due process.

This doesn't mean that the right thing will be done (which would be restitution to the victims' families), but I'm still somewhat pleasantly surprised.

Speaking of the 4th, 5th and 14th Amendment, which have become optional, something you won't find on the news... probably because average Americans might finally awaken.

Police perform house-to-house raids in Watertown MA ripping innocent families from their homes
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2LrbsUVSVl8&feature=player_embedded

 

[Darwin333]

the families would own the suspect and they could do whatever they wanted to him.

Yeah, that would be the hallmark of a civilized society....

Besides, with so many victims who actually gets to decide? Do they have to vote? Would it be simple majority or like the UN where one person can veto the plan? Maybe you could cut him into equal pieces and give each of the victims their "fair share"? Do the families of the dead get preference over those who have been left maimed?

 

[fskimospy]

Even aside form from the whole "enemy combatant" thing, it is not clear if he would have had the exact same rights as a citizen. We had a case that I believe went to the SCOTUS. It involved a Mexican national. I cannot recall the details ATM, but but he wasn't granted the all the "Due Process" (using that term broadly) in that evidence was admitted in the charges against him that would not be allowed were he a US citizen.

I say in this case it's not clear because the Mexican didn't have a Green Card whereas Dzokar (sp?) did (before he was granted citizenship). Since the SCOTUS never ruled on that point (they didn't need to in that case) we can't know for certain what would apply here.

Fern

If you're referring to the case I think you are it doesn't apply here. The Mexican national in question was protesting US searches of his property IN Mexico. The basic holding was that if you are either a US citizen or in the US you are protected, but if you are neither a citizen nor in the US it doesn't apply.

 

[Cattlegod]

life in solitary is much much worse than death