Breaking Bad

[Perknose]

It seemed to me, going by memory, that they showed Jesse deliberately re-aiming the gun just a tad to the side before he shot. Did anyone else see that? I think I'm going to have to go back and look again . . . want to re-watch the ep anyway!

Jesse STUPIDLY wanted to die confronting and trying to off those drug dealers because they killed an 11 year old kid after also killing his buddy, but I don't think his character is a killer at heart, so I don't think he's killed Gale.

I think he fired near his head and will now tell him to immediately skedaddle for his life, which will only UP the ongoing possible plot complications down the road!

Also, again following Checkov's eternal dictum that a gun introduced in the first act will go off in the third, OF COURSE Walt wearing that hat is meaningful, and meant to be so!

Dayum, but this show delivers! I hope to hell the creator and his other writers have a legitimate two more seasons in them, I'm gonna' hate to see this show go.

 

[slackerinabox]

on jesse killing gale being the same as him wanting to kill the drug dealers - Jesse, like walt, obviously has a strange moral code. The drug dealers killed his partner/friend and also killed a kid who was linked to someone he was (at the very least) sleeping with, revenge and justice were motives to him. Gale? He was an innocent, at least to Jesse. I don't think it's hard to understand at all - two scumbag drug dealers were easier to kill than a nerdy guy who doesn't seem all that bad of a person, all things considered.

 

[thegimp03]

Last episode was awesome. I can't wait for next season.

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

on jesse killing gale being the same as him wanting to kill the drug dealers - Jesse, like walt, obviously has a strange moral code. The drug dealers killed his partner/friend and also killed a kid who was linked to someone he was (at the very least) sleeping with, revenge and justice were motives to him. Gale? He was an innocent, at least to Jesse. I don't think it's hard to understand at all - two scumbag drug dealers were easier to kill than a nerdy guy who doesn't seem all that bad of a person, all things considered.

Nobody has claimed they were the same. I just see a strangely large range between his gung ho attitude with the dealers and his beseeching attitude with Walt when it came to Gale. Why should Jesse give a shit about Gale, a man whom he ignored the one time they met? But like I said, either way it set up a good emotional conflict for Jesse so we could see what he was willing to do for Walt.

God damn, people get hung up on the littlest things. I'm proud to get added to slayer's ignore list over something so stupid.

 

[olds]

Well, without resorting to name calling like you seem to like to do, I think you're actually wrong on this. Why would Walt BRING the hat, let alone wear it, unless it made him feel like Heisenberg. He's more confident in dealing with the kind of situation he was walking into when he's acting as Heisenberg (much like when he confronted the 2 dealers in the parking lot in Season 2). Heisenberg is is alter-ego in that sense, and yes, the show was making it very clear that he was relying on that.

I concur.

 

[dahunan]

I think a cool thing about the gap now til next one is getting to go back and get high and watch the The Fly again..

Big fan of Pink Floyd The Wall... I liked that one

 

[DayLaPaul]

except that gus and mike and vince know that walt is not heisenberg. the hat makes walt feel more comfortable, its a wall. just like people wearing a hat or sunglasses. it doesn't mean he is becoming another person, because he's not. obviously things have changed for him, but he isn't turning into heisenberg because heisenberg was never a seperate entity



coinboy isn't intelligent enough to warrant a response from me anymore. ignore list time

You guys must have some history or something because I think coinboy made some valid points. I see no reason to get so hostile with someone just because they have a different interpretation of the art that they see on the screen. But I guess I have thicker skin than most people.

 

[Balt]

It seemed to me, going by memory, that they showed Jesse deliberately re-aiming the gun just a tad to the side before he shot. Did anyone else see that? I think I'm going to have to go back and look again . . . want to re-watch the ep anyway!

The gun didn't move, the camera did so that it would be looking down the barrel.

 

[Kev]

you are comparing gale to the kid-killing drug dealers. I'm glad we have very different opinions on things. You clearly have some screws loose.


"Increasingly Walt is becoming the fiction that he created."

that shit is funny

I think it's funny how people can't have a conversation about A TELEVISION SHOW without resorting to personal insults.

It's really quite pathetic.

 

[Kev]

It's pretty obvious to me that the hat is a symbol intentionally planted by the writers to have some meaning. Now whether it signifies his transformation to Heisenberg or not is up to interpretation, but I think it's safe to say he didn't just don the hat to keep his chrome dome protected from the sun.

It's like a shield for Walt. He puts it on to get himself in character, so he can deal with people. AKA his dealers in S2, his boss in S3

 

[pcslookout]

One of the best tv shows I have ever seen. Was hooked ever sense I started from the beginning. I didn't expect to like this kind of show either but Bryan Cranston is awesome! He makes the show!

Rewatching the whole seasons again at this moment.

 

[pcslookout]

Anyone else feel this show is better than Dexter?

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

You guys must have some history or something because I think coinboy made some valid points. I see no reason to get so hostile with someone just because they have a different interpretation of the art that they see on the screen. But I guess I have thicker skin than most people.

He was singing the same tune because I didn't like the way LOST ended. No big deal.

But anyway, Breaking Bad has been a really awesome ride so far. Season 1 had some great hooks, but I was blown away by season 2. I think this one has been a bit of a lull, but still far better than most other shows on television, and the climax was excellent.

However, I do find myself wishing that, for once, a good TV drama might feature a tolerable wife character. I really can't stand Skyler and I'm not-so-secretly hoping she gets the Rita treatment a la Dexter. There are signs of hope with her willingness to help Walt should he choose to take over the car wash, but she's still a bitter wench most of the time. Marie has surprisingly become a bit of a foil for Skyler, and seems genuinely supportive of Hank at this point, but she's still a bit shrill and manic.

Going to be tough waiting for season 4.

 

[AdamK47]

The gun didn't move, the camera did so that it would be looking down the barrel.

That may be true. I still think he shot over his shoulder.

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

Anyone else feel this show is better than Dexter?

Way better. Dexter was only good through season 1, although I'm hoping it's on a bit of an upswing.

 

[Perknose]

That may be true. I still think he shot over his shoulder.

I re-watched it, Balt is correct, the camera moved and not the gun . . . but I still kinda agree that Jesse didn't, and wouldn't kill him. Guess we'll all see next year!

 

[A Casual Fitz]

It seemed to me, going by memory, that they showed Jesse deliberately re-aiming the gun just a tad to the side before he shot. Did anyone else see that? I think I'm going to have to go back and look again . . . want to re-watch the ep anyway!

Jesse STUPIDLY wanted to die confronting and trying to off those drug dealers because they killed an 11 year old kid after also killing his buddy, but I don't think his character is a killer at heart, so I don't think he's killed Gale.

I think he fired near his head and will now tell him to immediately skedaddle for his life, which will only UP the ongoing possible plot complications down the road!

Also, again following Checkov's eternal dictum that a gun introduced in the first act will go off in the third, OF COURSE Walt wearing that hat is meaningful, and meant to be so!

Dayum, but this show delivers! I hope to hell the creator and his other writers have a legitimate two more seasons in them, I'm gonna' hate to see this show go.

No, watch it again. It's just the camera moving. Gilligan also confirmed that Gale is dead.

 

[slayer202]

I think it's funny how people can't have a conversation about A TELEVISION SHOW without resorting to personal insults.

It's really quite pathetic.

I wish people didn't spew "everyone's opinion is valid" garbage, because there are way too many stupid people with stupid opinions.

 

[BrokenVisage]

No, watch it again. It's just the camera moving. Gilligan also confirmed that Gale is dead.

I thought all he confirmed was that Jesse shot him. I do believe he blew his brains out but "shot" could mean non-lethal.

 

[slayer202]

and let me pose this question. who was heisenberg? how did he differ from walt at all, and how is walt becoming more like this person?

 

[gorcorps]

and let me pose this question. who was heisenberg? how did he differ from walt at all, and how is walt becoming more like this person?

Dear god, you sound like my stuffy ass English teachers picking shit apart till all of the enjoyment has been sucked out of it. I hope you're just trolling. D:

 

[A Casual Fitz]

I thought all he confirmed was that Jesse shot him. I do believe he blew his brains out but "shot" could mean non-lethal.

Yeah I suppose it's possible. I honestly believed Jesse moved the gun the first time I saw it too but on a second viewing it's clear that he had the gun pointed at his head and the camera swivels around.

 

[Kev]

and let me pose this question. who was heisenberg? how did he differ from walt at all, and how is walt becoming more like this person?

Wow. Get a GED then come back to this thread ok?

 

[DayLaPaul]

and let me pose this question. who was heisenberg? how did he differ from walt at all, and how is walt becoming more like this person?

Heisenberg was a creation of Walt's imagination. Heisenberg is everything Walt imagines a perfect drug kingpin to be: smart, cunning, ruthless, powerful. While Walt himself possessed some of these qualities to begin with, it is fair to say that he grew into the role of Heisenberg and that his transformation was/is somewhat gradual.

Now you may believe that Walt was always Heisenberg or that his transformation had already been completed long before he put on the hat in the season finale and that may be true, but for those that see it another way, you can't just summarily label them as idiots because it's not black and white.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Only been catching new episodes of BB on Sunday nights for a couple weeks now, sucks it's already gone, especially with nothing good on at 10:00 last night.