Breaking Bad

[Ksyder]

are you kidding? do you think the actors on saturday night live magically go from long hair to bald and back every week? they're called wigs buddy.

Yeah buddy, I considered the fact that it could have been a wig. The idea is that they could have shot that a long time ago rather than empty out that house to shoot that scene.

The fact that it didn't have any real relevance to anything in the episode is what made me think it was possibly generically done a long time ago. Its just pure speculation man.

 

[DayLaPaul]

Yeah buddy, I considered the fact that it could have been a wig. The idea is that they could have shot that a long time ago rather than empty out that house to shoot that scene.

The fact that it didn't have any real relevance to anything in the episode is what made me think it was possibly generically done a long time ago. Its just pure speculation man.

Empty out a house? It's called a set. I doubt they actually filmed that scene inside a real house.

 

[nageov3t]

Yeah buddy, I considered the fact that it could have been a wig. The idea is that they could have shot that a long time ago rather than empty out that house to shoot that scene.

The fact that it didn't have any real relevance to anything in the episode is what made me think it was possibly generically done a long time ago. Its just pure speculation man.

Last night’s finale, “Full Measure,” opened with an interesting flashback that shed light on the earlier stages of Walt’s inner yearning. As he and Skyler tour the house that they would later move into and start a family, younger Walt is underwhelmed. Skyler questions why he does not think that the home is enough for their starter and Walt responds, “Where else can we go but up?”


Flash forward to present day, where Walt is trapped by that very pursuit of “more” that manifested itself years ago when searching for the perfect first home. But unlike the younger Walt, who was surprisingly cheery and hopeful, Walt is dead inside. His body may have outlived the doctor’s “three year” prognosis from the series premiere, but his heart has not. He conceded earlier this season that he would be better off dead, but even so, begs Mike for his life and orders a kill on an innocent person.



http://www.movieline.com/2010/06/was-breaking-bads-season-finale-tvs-darkest-hour-ever.php

 

[Ksyder]

Empty out a house? It's called a set. I doubt they actually filmed that scene inside a real house.

Ok then the roof that Walt thew the pizza on wasn't a real roof either. It was inside a huge dome that was really a fake neighborhood which was on a fake earth.

I don't know whether or not it was a set or not. Christ. I said it was just speculation. If it makes you feel smart to pick apart my speculation then go right ahead.

 

[slackerinabox]

Ok then the roof that Walt thew the pizza on wasn't a real roof either. It was inside a huge dome that was really a fake neighborhood which was on a fake earth.

I don't know whether or not it was a set or not. Christ. I said it was just speculation. If it makes you feel smart to pick apart my speculation then go right ahead.

You remind me of Karl Pilkington... Just saying..

 

[daniel1113]

For what it's worth, Walt's home is a real house in Albuquerque:

http://www.flickr.com/photos/24869473@N02/4475763892/in/set-72157623732482564/

I have no idea if the house is used to film the interior scenes. My guess is that the interior scenes are shot on a set.

 

[Ksyder]

The other thing that struck me about the opening scene is that Walt looked strikingly like the Bryan Cranston we saw in Malcolm in the Middle. That was my other reasoning for the possibility that maybe they shot that scene a long time ago and just threw it in there knowing that it could have fit in anywhere.

I don't know though. I'm certainly not the most astute viewer out there. Thats why I'm bouncing the idea off here. Others have made valid points about the existence of that scene. Either way it ends up being kind of generic and you can read into it in a few ways.

 

[K1052]

Walt was wearing the Heisenberg hat when he went to meet Gus.

Increasingly Walt is becoming the fiction that he created.

 

[slayer202]

Walt was wearing the Heisenberg hat when he went to meet Gus.

Increasingly Walt is becoming the fiction that he created.

no

 

[BrokenVisage]

I re-watched the finale last night, first time I saw it on my HT. The last scene with the gun shot scared the crap out of me! I knew it was coming, I had the volume at a moderate level, but the sound it made was still so loud and sudden I almost jumped out of my seat! I never heard my bass kick on a gunshot as much as it did there. Whatever sound editing was done to bring out the gun noise was brilliant.

 

[Slick5150]

I re-watched the finale last night, first time I saw it on my HT. The last scene with the gun shot scared the crap out of me! I knew it was coming, I had the volume at a moderate level, but the sound it made was still so loud and sudden I almost jumped out of my seat! I never heard my bass kick on a gunshot as much as it did there. Whatever sound editing was done to bring out the gun noise was brilliant.

They've been using deep bass noise throughout this season to indicate "evil", or bad intentions or whatever.

 

[BrokenVisage]

They've been using deep bass noise throughout this season to indicate "evil", or bad intentions or whatever.

Yup, I remember having to turn the volume way down during the final scene in Half Measures when Jesse is walking up to the dealers. The bass made it sound like I was inside the heart of a blue whale!

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

Walt was wearing the Heisenberg hat when he went to meet Gus.

Increasingly Walt is becoming the fiction that he created.

no

Great, you thread shit with Breaking Bad just like with LOST.

I liked the finale, although I was a little surprised at just how emphatic Jesse was about not hurting Gale. He had been fully resolved to kill a couple drug dealers mere days before. And he really had no relationship with Gale, so I doubt he'd have any strong feelings about his innocence. Nonetheless, his emotional struggle was good TV and the ending was tense. I was sad to see Gale go, if he is truly dead; he seemed like an OK dude.

 

[gorcorps]

Great, you thread shit with Breaking Bad just like with LOST.

I liked the finale, although I was a little surprised at just how emphatic Jesse was about not hurting Gale. He had been fully resolved to kill a couple drug dealers mere days before. And he really had no relationship with Gale, so I doubt he'd have any strong feelings about his innocence. Nonetheless, his emotional struggle was good TV and the ending was tense. I was sad to see Gale go, if he is truly dead; he seemed like an OK dude.

You were surprised that Jesse didn't want to hurt Gale? The only motivation Jesse had to kill him was to keep Walt alive, which Gale really had nothing to do with. It's not surprising at all that Jesse didn't want to kill really a pretty nice person who didn't deserve to die at all.

With the drug dealers, he had a HUGE reason to want them dead... not just dead, but suffer. Killing is not just killing, which has been a point that's been touched on a few times in the show.

Just shows that Jesse has a heart, but at this point is willing to make himself feel horrible to keep Walt alive.

 

[geecee]

But was Gale really that good of a guy? When he has his talk with Gus about replacing Walt, he seems to realize that Gus wants Walt out of the picture, and not just due to the uncertainty of Walt's cancer. He even goes down on the estimate as to how many more cooks he needs to be able to thoroughly understand the process after Gus gives him some cues. I'm thinking he understood that taking over for Walt didn't mean Walt would get to retire gracefully.

 

[slayer202]

Great, you thread shit with Breaking Bad just like with LOST.

I liked the finale, although I was a little surprised at just how emphatic Jesse was about not hurting Gale. He had been fully resolved to kill a couple drug dealers mere days before. And he really had no relationship with Gale, so I doubt he'd have any strong feelings about his innocence. Nonetheless, his emotional struggle was good TV and the ending was tense. I was sad to see Gale go, if he is truly dead; he seemed like an OK dude.

you are comparing gale to the kid-killing drug dealers. I'm glad we have very different opinions on things. You clearly have some screws loose.


"Increasingly Walt is becoming the fiction that he created."

that shit is funny

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

You were surprised that Jesse didn't want to hurt Gale? The only motivation Jesse had to kill him was to keep Walt alive, which Gale really had nothing to do with. It's not surprising at all that Jesse didn't want to kill really a pretty nice person who didn't deserve to die at all.

With the drug dealers, he had a HUGE reason to want them dead... not just dead, but suffer. Killing is not just killing, which has been a point that's been touched on a few times in the show.

Just shows that Jesse has a heart, but at this point is willing to make himself feel horrible to keep Walt alive.

My point was that Jesse was pleading with Walt for Gale's life despite having no knowledge or attachment to the man. Jesse even agreed with Walt about not being a murderer by nature, despite having expressed murderous intent quite recently. I understand that the targets are different, but I still find his change of heart uncharacteristic. If anything, I would expect him to be apathetic about Walt's plans.

 

[nageov3t]

But was Gale really that good of a guy? When he has his talk with Gus about replacing Walt, he seems to realize that Gus wants Walt out of the picture, and not just due to the uncertainty of Walt's cancer. He even goes down on the estimate as to how many more cooks he needs to be able to thoroughly understand the process after Gus gives him some cues. I'm thinking he understood that taking over for Walt didn't mean Walt would get to retire gracefully.

he wasn't mother theresa, but I don't think he's all that different than Walt when Walt first started cooking.

I felt like Gale was trying to at least warn Walt in that one scene where they were talking and the guard kinda interrupted them.

if Gus wants Walt dead, there's really not a damn thing Gale can do about it.

 

[BrokenVisage]

But was Gale really that good of a guy? When he has his talk with Gus about replacing Walt, he seems to realize that Gus wants Walt out of the picture, and not just due to the uncertainty of Walt's cancer. He even goes down on the estimate as to how many more cooks he needs to be able to thoroughly understand the process after Gus gives him some cues. I'm thinking he understood that taking over for Walt didn't mean Walt would get to retire gracefully.

Yes, I think Gale was that good of a guy. Obviously we didn't get to see him very much but if you add up what we know from the scenes he was in it's pretty clear he's the most innocent character of the entire show next to Walt Jr. There was a review I read of the finale that put this discussion into perfect perspective..

Although there had been hints before that Gale might be mean or evil underneath his obsequious lab room sucking up, in this episode we find out definitively that Gale really does believe in going about his life and not bothering anyone - the unobtrusive libertarian. He's an odd, somewhat carefree duck (recumbent bike, quirky foreign music, reading temperatures with a laser, etc.), so killing him will be that much harder. But as Walt makes the only play he's got left - tipping off Jesse to quickly kill Gale, the emotional morality storm that "Breaking Bad" always seems to kick into motion takes a wrenching turn.

I'm sure he liked Walt and appreciated his professionalism as a cook, and Walt definately took a shine to him to the point of kismet, but after what happened with Jesse and Hank he had to placate Jesse and his anger by giving him the chance to be his assistant and make a cool 1.5 million bucks. Frankly I don't see how Gus doesn't have him whacked after they let him go but now we see why.

I also thought the "you don't have to do this" line was pretty powerful because he really didn't have to shoot him, and obviously he didn't want to, but after all Walt did he had to come through for him there even though he was just an innocent pawn who didn't even argue when he was replaced by Jesse. But as for Gale "coming down" in the number of times he needed to cook with Walt to be ready, I think he put 2 and 2 together and was just trying to make Gus happy. As much as he appreciated Walt there's nothing he can really do about how Gus wants things, he's not even close to the problem solver Walt tries to be and would never push his luck, quite the opposite as pointed out by the "unobtrusive libertarian" moniker given to him in the review.

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

you are comparing gale to the kid-killing drug dealers. I'm glad we have very different opinions on things. You clearly have some screws loose.

Only we as the audience have a real basis for comparison. Jesse knows next to nothing about Gale. I don't see Jesse as a bloodthirsty killer, but he's always been self-interested and morally questionable, so I did not expect him to express so strong a reaction when Walt proposed eliminating Gale. It seems like his sudden burst of altruism served only to make his actions in the end more profound.

"Increasingly Walt is becoming the fiction that he created."

that shit is funny

His point makes perfect sense. Heisenberg was a construction Walt made to hide his identity and make himself seem more believable in the subculture he found himself entering. As the seasons have gone on, we've seen the real Walt become more like his made-up Heisenberg persona, especially in his willingness to make moral concessions (and his propensity for wearing a hat, I guess).

Stop being an asshole.

 

[slayer202]

stop being an idiot and i'll stop being an asshole.

walt wearing the hat is not showing any signs of walt becoming heisenberg, that is ridiculous. walt was in a bind and trying to do what he needed to do to survive, the same thing he has ALWAYS done.

and its a fucking tv show which you can't seem to comprehend

 

[CoinOperatedBoy]

stop being an idiot and i'll stop being an asshole.

walt wearing the hat is not showing any signs of walt becoming heisenberg, that is ridiculous. walt was in a bind and trying to do what he needed to do to survive, the same thing he has ALWAYS done.

The hat thing is obviously a joke. But are you trying to claim that Walt hasn't changed at all over the course of the series?

and its a fucking tv show which you can't seem to comprehend

What does this even mean?

You seem pretty much incapable of interpreting a TV show beyond the most shallow grasp, and anyone who disagrees with you gets the "it's a fucking tv show" treatment and a slew of insults. Stop being so hostile. Give it a rest and go watch some cartoons.

 

[DayLaPaul]

It's pretty obvious to me that the hat is a symbol intentionally planted by the writers to have some meaning. Now whether it signifies his transformation to Heisenberg or not is up to interpretation, but I think it's safe to say he didn't just don the hat to keep his chrome dome protected from the sun.

 

[Slick5150]

stop being an idiot and i'll stop being an asshole.

walt wearing the hat is not showing any signs of walt becoming heisenberg, that is ridiculous. walt was in a bind and trying to do what he needed to do to survive, the same thing he has ALWAYS done.

and its a fucking tv show which you can't seem to comprehend

Well, without resorting to name calling like you seem to like to do, I think you're actually wrong on this. Why would Walt BRING the hat, let alone wear it, unless it made him feel like Heisenberg. He's more confident in dealing with the kind of situation he was walking into when he's acting as Heisenberg (much like when he confronted the 2 dealers in the parking lot in Season 2). Heisenberg is is alter-ego in that sense, and yes, the show was making it very clear that he was relying on that.

 

[slayer202]

Well, without resorting to name calling like you seem to like to do, I think you're actually wrong on this. Why would Walt BRING the hat, let alone wear it, unless it made him feel like Heisenberg. He's more confident in dealing with the kind of situation he was walking into when he's acting as Heisenberg (much like when he confronted the 2 dealers in the parking lot in Season 2). Heisenberg is is alter-ego in that sense, and yes, the show was making it very clear that he was relying on that.

except that gus and mike and vince know that walt is not heisenberg. the hat makes walt feel more comfortable, its a wall. just like people wearing a hat or sunglasses. it doesn't mean he is becoming another person, because he's not. obviously things have changed for him, but he isn't turning into heisenberg because heisenberg was never a seperate entity



coinboy isn't intelligent enough to warrant a response from me anymore. ignore list time