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Breaking Bad Season 4 - Official Discussion Thread

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gorcorps said:
Good start to the season. Last season started off slow so I'm glad to see how exciting this is going already.

One thing I've noticed though, and I don't know if anybody else sees stuff like this but the product placement is getting a little ridiculous. We've known what car Walt drives for a while so none of that is a surprise anymore, but there's more. Hank sets his laptop down ever so perfectly to make sure we see it's a Vaio. When Jesse and Walt are at the diner, the shot is angled just so you can see the Dennys sign between them out the window. Angled shot to see Gale's phone ringing... then a zoom in to see it's a Samsung. I don't know if it's really paid-for product placement, but some of the angles seem fairly odd and the logos are quite apparent. Not really a problem, but something I notice.
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You can't seriously think that the Aztek Walt drives was in any way product placement. Pontiac is no more and by the time the show started the Aztek stopped being made. He drives an Aztek to convey how ordinary (or boring) Walt really is.

The Dennys sign and the Samsung logo on the phone didn't even catch my eye when I watched it. I didn't notice it. I did notice the laptop though thinking to myself "Good, not another crappy Mac used in a television show".
 
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Btw, there is no reason that Gus cannot keepthem imprisoned and force them to work for him.. ridiculous to let them go home and still get paid... give me a break. Intelligent show? Where? Not a single thing happened in the first episode.
 
shadow9d9 said:
Btw, there is no reason that Gus cannot keepthem imprisoned and force them to work for him.. ridiculous to let them go home and still get paid... give me a break. Intelligent show? Where? Not a single thing happened in the first episode.
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Ok we get it, you're too smart for the show, now kindly go away so that the rest of us idiots can continue to discuss the greatness that is Breaking Bad.
 
shadow9d9 said:
Btw, there is no reason that Gus cannot keepthem imprisoned and force them to work for him.. ridiculous to let them go home and still get paid... give me a break. Intelligent show? Where? Not a single thing happened in the first episode.
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Gah! Blast. Guess I can't watch anymore.

What would you suggest? CSI: New York?
 
shadow9d9 said:
Btw, there is no reason that Gus cannot keepthem imprisoned and force them to work for him.. ridiculous to let them go home and still get paid... give me a break. Intelligent show? Where? Not a single thing happened in the first episode.
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Sure there is. What's the point of living if you're confined to a meth lab? They could easily refuse to cook just as easily as he could lock them up. Then they'd be in the same pickle they are now... where Gus doesn't have anybody else to make the purity he needs. Until Gus finds somebody else that already knows how to cook like that, Walt actually has the upper hand. He could still butcher Jesse without much thought though.

See how easy it is to poke holes in things? You already have holes in your plot line and it's only a sentence long. If you don't like the show that's fine, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
 
gorcorps said:
He could still butcher Jesse without much thought though.
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Not really. Jesse is the only person in the criminal world who Walt truly trusts. Walt wouldn't be able to run that lab alone and Jesse knows how to cook his product. Gus can't kill Jesse because: 1. Walt can't run the lab alone and Gus has no qualified person to replace Jesse and 2. Walt would refuse to cook alongside a stranger, because of what happened with Gale. Gus needs the cooking to happen, he can't afford to stop it.
 
anyusername said:
Gus needs the cooking to happen, he can't afford to stop it.
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Yeah Gus needs that product since he cut himself off from the cartel. Remember Mike going all James Bond on those cartel guys holding the chemical company hostage? We'll probably see a lot more stuff like that. Maybe they'll bring back Tio.
 
Gus does not strike me as the type of character with a penchant for violence. Every move of his is calculated, and he does not engage in killings just for the sake of killing.

When he killed his assistant it was because he was seen at the scene of the crime, not because he was angry at Walt/Jessie. He won't kill Walt/Jessie yet because he doesn't have a suitable replacement. Once he does, they are as good as dead.

In order to escape, Gus must die. It's the only way for Walt. Gonna be a great season.
 
Yea, I always thought Gus was the type of drug boss who wouldn't get his hands dirty. I was surprised to see that he is cold blooded killer.
 
anyusername said:
Not really. Jesse is the only person in the criminal world who Walt truly trusts. Walt wouldn't be able to run that lab alone and Jesse knows how to cook his product. Gus can't kill Jesse because: 1. Walt can't run the lab alone and Gus has no qualified person to replace Jesse and 2. Walt would refuse to cook alongside a stranger, because of what happened with Gale. Gus needs the cooking to happen, he can't afford to stop it.
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I thought about that too, but there's different ways it can happen. The assistant
that Gus just killed
pretty much showed that he could cook by himself. If HE could do it by himself then there's not much reason Walt can't other than simply refusing. By refusing to cook though, Walt is no longer good to Gus and Walt knows that... so it'd be a pretty big risk to stop cooking and hope Gus needs you that badly to keep you alive (even though you're obviously of no use to him).

They're both stuck. Gus needs Walt to cook, and Walt needs to cook to stay alive so right now its in both of their interests to have Walt keep at it. Jesse is really no longer needed in this equation because you still have a visibly shaken Walt that I believe would still have to keep at it if Jesse was taken out.

HOWEVER, it's also true that Gus doesn't want people dead unless it's for a good reason. Right now there's not a huge reason to kill Jesse as like I said, he's not really an important piece anymore regardless of how Walt feels.
 
anyusername said:
Yea, I always thought Gus was the type of drug boss who wouldn't get his hands dirty. I was surprised to see that he is cold blooded killer.
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Was I the only one impressed by how physically built Gus is?
When he took off his clothes, the first thought in my head was, wow he isn't the nerdy chicken salesman I thought he was. 😀
 
gorcorps said:
Sure there is. What's the point of living if you're confined to a meth lab? They could easily refuse to cook just as easily as he could lock them up. Then they'd be in the same pickle they are now... where Gus doesn't have anybody else to make the purity he needs. Until Gus finds somebody else that already knows how to cook like that, Walt actually has the upper hand. He could still butcher Jesse without much thought though.

See how easy it is to poke holes in things? You already have holes in your plot line and it's only a sentence long. If you don't like the show that's fine, but you obviously don't know what you're talking about.
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Umm, I'm, sure torture would get them cooking. No holes, just more elaboration needed.
 
SpongeBob said:
Ok we get it, you're too smart for the show, now kindly go away so that the rest of us idiots can continue to discuss the greatness that is Breaking Bad.
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It has nothing to do with my level of smart. It has to do with a show with no plot whatsoever, which has been limping along with no direction for a while now.

Literally NOTHING happened in the first episode.
 
PottedMeat said:
what did you think about Fly?
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It was an episode with less than 0 plot. A filler. An attempt at being artsy. A failure. I actually felt embarrassed for the actors. They must realize they were on a show with nothing left to give.

This is the way of american shows though... keep it going beyond its time if it has ratings... just like the Office and Dexter.
 
purbeast0 said:
hey negative nancy, how bout you just GTFO of this thread? we get it ... you don't like good shows, especially the one that this thread is about.
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No, I ONLY like good shows... not shows that have run out of plot and have to resort to a character walking slowly around a room for 5 minutes as a substitution for actual plot.
 
shadow9d9 said:
It has nothing to do with my level of smart. It has to do with a show with no plot whatsoever, which has been limping along with no direction for a while now.

Literally NOTHING happened in the first episode.
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then don't watch it. nobody cares. watch star trek reruns.
 
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