Braveheart

[Locut0s]

I just finished watching it for the first time. Yes I know I fail for waiting 14 years to see it. I remember at the time looking at the trailers and reading a bit about the movie and wondering what the heck all the fuss was about. Now that I've seen it I can only say WHAT THE FUCK WAS ALL THE FUSS ABOUT!?!?! How the hell does a movie like that walk away with 5 Oscars!? Let alone best director and best picture? I mean it was okay in places, I suppose as a period piece it replicates the feel of the time well enough, the scenery was beautiful and you can tell a lot of $$$ went into it but that's about where my praise ends and even that's stretching things.

Edit: The main reason I dislike the film is that for such a highly rated film it just seems too over the top. It comes across more like a testosterone infused gore fest whose main goal seems to be to put Mel Gibson on some godlike pedestal. Yes yes I know I need to hand in my man card, sorry I never got one to hand in. I wouldn't be complaining if it weren't for the high praise the film received from many critics. I never got the feeling like I was watching a film about William Wallace so much as bowing down to Mel Gibson.

 

[bigrash]

I agree. My friend used to say how this was her favorite movie and she made me watch it and all I can say is that it was meh.

 

[JDub02]

FRREEEEEEEEEEEDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!

 

[Fingolfin269]

I just don't understand some people and apparently you two are 'some people'.

 

[sswingle]

I have never seen it. Thinking about picking up the Blu-Ray since the PQ on it is stellar.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: sswingle
I have never seen it. Thinking about picking up the Blu-Ray since the PQ on it is stellar.

I watched the blu-ray version. In places the quality is stellar but truthfully I didn't think it stood heads and shoulders above anything else I've seen recently on blu-ray.

 

[alexjohnson16]

What are good movies then?

 

[bigrash]

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
What are good movies then?

Gladiator was 50 times better.

 

[Locut0s]

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
What are good movies then?

From a previous post:

Magnolia
goodfellas
full metal jacket
there will be blood
2001

 

[lokiju]

Braveheart is one of my all time favorite movies.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: bigrash

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
What are good movies then?

Gladiator was 50 times better.

This.

 

[Aharami]

Originally posted by: bigrash
I agree. My friend used to say how this was her favorite movie and she made me watch it and all I can say is that it was meh.

YOU ARE 'MEH'!!! YOU ARE!!

 

[Aharami]

oh and

 

[zoiks]

Originally posted by: bigrash

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
What are good movies then?

Gladiator was 50 times better.

I thought Gladiator sucked.

 

[calvinbiss]

Originally posted by: JDub02
FRREEEEEEEEEEEDDDOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM!!!!!

/thread

If you didn't feel emotional at this scene you are dead.

 

[BrokenVisage]

Originally posted by: zoiks

Originally posted by: bigrash

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
What are good movies then?

Gladiator was 50 times better.

I thought Gladiator sucked.

Gladiator is such an over-rated pile of crap that it should not even be compared to Braveheart unless you're discussing the quality of their Blu-ray transfers or something, and even then Braveheart wins by miles.

OK it's not "crap" but still overly praised IMHO. The ending was good, but Crowe's performance and the story itself just did nothing for me, not to mention it was filmed in such an annoyingly over-the-top way that Ang Lee would cringe. You want to talk about a movie walking away with more Oscars then it deserved, look no further (OK Shakespear in Love was less deserving but that grand larceny is well understood). Braveheart on the other hand made me cry and I'll admit to that 7 days a week and twice on Tuesday.

 

[GTaudiophile]

Originally posted by: Locut0s

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
What are good movies then?

From a previous post:

Magnolia
goodfellas
full metal jacket
there will be blood
2001

Magnolia: Probably Cruise's best performance, but otherwise the movie was way too long and a stinking pile.

Goodfellas: Never seen it.

FMJ: The Marine Corp. Drill Instructor wins this movie, but after he gets blown away and the movie moves to Vietnam, it becomes a stinking pile. Well, except for the, "Me love you long time" part.

Blood: One of the best acting jobs ever by a lead male (DDL). Otherwise the movie was okay.

2001: What? Are you kidding me? I suppose it is a safer alternative to a real acid trip.

 

[SillyOReilly]

Originally posted by: bigrash

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
What are good movies then?

Gladiator was 50 times better.

This is what makes the world go around, different opinions.

My great opinion is that Braveheart is awesome, your shitty opinion is that Gladiator was awesome.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Braveheart is one of my all time favorites. It's a great story of courage and honor. The acting is superb, Patrick McGoohan (Longshanks), Angus Macfadyen (Robert the Bruce), both gave powerful performances one as an evil man and one who is saved from losing his humanity (from becoming evil) by meeting William Wallace. I love the scene where he and Wallace are arguing and Wallace offers him his hand to unite the clans and fight against the English.

And let us not forget the direction, the cinematography. Braveheart is glorious, beautiful to look at. The slow motion pictures of horses preparing to charge armed combatants, the entire landscape of Scotland that Mel Gibson captures with the camera. The soundtrack is also fantastic. Yes there is violence in this film but that violence does serve a point...that freedom isn't free and sometimes it takes death, gruesome and horrible, to let ones people taste what it is like to be free.

Also, to anyone who hasn't seen Goodfellas. Watch it, you won't be disappointed. It is one of the all time great gangster flicks.

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus
Braveheart is one of my all time favorites. It's a great story of courage and honor. The acting is superb, Patrick McGoohan (Longshanks), Angus Macfadyen (Robert the Bruce), both gave powerful performances one as an evil man and one who is saved from losing his humanity (from becoming evil) by meeting William Wallace. I love the scene where he and Wallace are arguing and Wallace offers him his hand to unite the clans and fight against the English.

And let us not forget the direction, the cinematography. Braveheart is glorious, beautiful to look at. The slow motion pictures of horses preparing to charge armed combatants, the entire landscape of Scotland that Mel Gibson captures with the camera. The soundtrack is also fantastic. Yes there is violence in this film but that violence does serve a point...that freedom isn't free and sometimes it takes death, gruesome and horrible, to let ones people taste what it is like to be free.

Also, to anyone who hasn't seen Goodfellas. Watch it, you won't be disappointed. It is one of the all time great gangster flicks.

i agree with what you said.

it's funny, i've watched braveheart well over 10 times, and when I got the bluray I picked up on something i never EVER noticed, and I'm kind of embarassed to mention it heh.

the scene they are in the woods right before they meet the irishman, they are discussing their battle plan, then wallace looks up. it then has this cool, almost fish eye view, of the trees rising up high into the air, and at that point he talks about making wooden spears, and that he got the idea from looking up at the trees.

dunno how i never caught that ever heh.

such an awesome movie, definitely one of my favs.

 

[dainthomas]

Originally posted by: SillyOReilly

Originally posted by: bigrash

Originally posted by: alexjohnson16
What are good movies then?

Gladiator was 50 times better.

This is what makes the world go around, different opinions.

My great opinion is that Braveheart is awesome, your shitty opinion is that Gladiator was awesome.

This. People who don't think Braveheart is awesome need to go back to watching Paul Blart Mall Cop.

 

[WA261]

I love that show. I have seen it several times. It is one of those shows like "Master and Commander" you can watch over and over.

 

[BoomerD]

Originally posted by: Locut0s
I just finished watching it for the first time. Yes I know I fail for waiting 14 years to see it. I remember at the time looking at the trailers and reading a bit about the movie and wondering what the heck all the fuss was about. Now that I've seen it I can only say WHAT THE FUCK WAS ALL THE FUSS ABOUT!?!?! How the hell does a movie like that walk away with 5 Oscars!? Let alone best director and best picture? I mean it was okay in places, I suppose as a period piece it replicates the feel of the time well enough, the scenery was beautiful and you can tell a lot of $$$ went into it but that's about where my praise ends and even that's stretching things.

Double up on your psycho meds did ya?

I've seen Braveheart several times. Very well made, for the most part, well scripted and well acted. Is it "The best movie of all time?" No, but it's enjoyable to watch some of Scotland's history being re-enacted and wondering where the hell my ancestors were during this...and what part they may have played.

 

[TehMac]

Originally posted by: WA261
I love that show. I have seen it several times. It is one of those shows like "Master and Commander" you can watch over and over.

:thumbsup:


As soon as I get blu ray I am getting Master and Commander + Kingdom of Heaven Director's Cut on blu ray.

 

[Train]

Braveheart was good, but not list of greatest movies of all time kinda good.

It may have just been a week year for the Oscars, and Braveheart was all they had.

Oscars tend to like "Epic-y" movies. They also like to stroke egos of people like Mel Gibson.