Brain scans 1 step closer to reality

tontod

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Brain scans

Not sure how I feel about this one, no problem as long as my brain isnt scanned, hah. The implications are obviously huge esp. if they can precisely sort through all the jumble in someone's brain to precisely pinpoint something at a particular point in time.
 

ConstipatedVigilante

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If this could create visual representations of things that people are simply thinking of, it could produce some very interesting results. A lot of people have really wild imaginations, but no artistic talent to put those things into tangible form - imagine if someone could hook themselves up to a computer and have it draw what they're thinking!
 

tontod

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This could have big implications in the criminal justice system too. Would work great in the case of alibis.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Maybe we will finally find out why liberals are bat shit insane.

i think its time for you to take a step back from the computer and go for a walk outside.
 

JSt0rm

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Originally posted by: ConstipatedVigilante
If this could create visual representations of things that people are simply thinking of, it could produce some very interesting results. A lot of people have really wild imaginations, but no artistic talent to put those things into tangible form - imagine if someone could hook themselves up to a computer and have it draw what they're thinking!

lets hope not, creativity is like the last place to produce product in this country.
 

gevorg

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This will be a great addition to Patriot Act XXIV.

Wireless surveillance brain scans. :evil:
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Maybe we will finally find out why liberals are bat shit insane.

What I find interesting is that I believe if given a chance to test your sanity you would jump at it sure in the conviction that you are. Am I wrong. Would you hesitate, honestly? Hehe, would that we could test for that too.
 

fskimospy

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I'm actually helping conduct some fMRI research attempting to predict political behavior based upon card game playing, etc. I'm tired now but I'll write some more about it later, it's pretty amazing.
 

Modelworks

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Very nice. This has a lot of potential. One area this could help in is mental illness. If they can target the areas of the brain that are causing a particular disorder they can treat it better. Right now they have general ideas of what areas are responsible for mental illness but nothing specific and many drugs work but they are not sure entirely how.

 

shira

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I find this technology to be very scary. As indicated in the article, there's no reason that it would be limited to being able to determine only what you've seen. It could easily be extended to determine what you're thinking about.

For one thing, it turns protection against self-incrimination on its head: If you don't subject yourself to a brain scan, your guilt is presumed. If you DO, you're essentially testifying against yourself.

And there are many, many other problems. For example:

Suppose you think unflattering thoughts about someone (your wife, your boss, a relative), but it's not something you would ever actually say out loud.

Or suppose you engage in kinky sexual fantasies for pleasure, with perhaps some of the "action" illegal, but not anything you really intend to do.

Or suppose you merely THINK about actually breaking the law in some way, but ultimately decide against it.

In our present world, none of the above thoughts would "count" against you. You remain a loving husband, a loyal employee, a favorite nephew, a morally-upright citizen. But can you imagine a world in which the fact that someone could ask you - to "prove" your worthiness - to subject yourself to a brain scan that could determine all your private thoughts?

I think it's a terrifying prospect.

 

3chordcharlie

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Originally posted by: shira
I find this technology to be very scary. As indicated in the article, there's no reason that it would be limited to being able to determine only what you've seen. It could easily be extended to determine what you're thinking about.

For one thing, it turns protection against self-incrimination on its head: If you don't subject yourself to a brain scan, your guilt is presumed. If you DO, you're essentially testifying against yourself.

And there are many, many other problems. For example:

Suppose you think unflattering thoughts about someone (your wife, your boss, a relative), but it's not something you would ever actually say out loud.

Or suppose you engage in kinky sexual fantasies for pleasure, with perhaps some of the "action" illegal, but not anything you really intend to do.

Or suppose you merely THINK about actually breaking the law in some way, but ultimately decide against it.

In our present world, none of the above thoughts would "count" against you. You remain a loving husband, a loyal employee, a favorite nephew, a morally-upright citizen. But can you imagine a world in which the fact that someone could ask you - to "prove" your worthiness - to subject yourself to a brain scan that could determine all your private thoughts?

I think it's a terrifying prospect.

I think we should accelerate this research; it's about time we had a way to screen people for thought crimes. That way we can put away all the dangerous people before they can cause any damage.
 

Cogman

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Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Maybe we will finally find out why liberals are bat shit insane.

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: tontod
Topic Title: Brain scans 1 step closer to reality

Good, maybe they can see what the fuck is wrong with Republicans brains

Glad to see that both parties are insane. (anyone who believe that one party is fully insane and theirs isn't, is insane)
 

dmcowen674

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Originally posted by: Cogman
Originally posted by: Fear No Evil
Maybe we will finally find out why liberals are bat shit insane.

Originally posted by: dmcowen674
Originally posted by: tontod
Topic Title: Brain scans 1 step closer to reality

Good, maybe they can see what the fuck is wrong with Republicans brains

Glad to see that both parties are insane. (anyone who believe that one party is fully insane and theirs isn't, is insane)

I didn't say Democrats don't have their share of nuts.
 

Moonbeam

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Originally posted by: shira
I find this technology to be very scary. As indicated in the article, there's no reason that it would be limited to being able to determine only what you've seen. It could easily be extended to determine what you're thinking about.

For one thing, it turns protection against self-incrimination on its head: If you don't subject yourself to a brain scan, your guilt is presumed. If you DO, you're essentially testifying against yourself.

And there are many, many other problems. For example:

Suppose you think unflattering thoughts about someone (your wife, your boss, a relative), but it's not something you would ever actually say out loud.

Or suppose you engage in kinky sexual fantasies for pleasure, with perhaps some of the "action" illegal, but not anything you really intend to do.

Or suppose you merely THINK about actually breaking the law in some way, but ultimately decide against it.

In our present world, none of the above thoughts would "count" against you. You remain a loving husband, a loyal employee, a favorite nephew, a morally-upright citizen. But can you imagine a world in which the fact that someone could ask you - to "prove" your worthiness - to subject yourself to a brain scan that could determine all your private thoughts?

I think it's a terrifying prospect.

Interesting. I don't have any private thoughts I would worry about being public.
 

shira

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Originally posted by: Moonbeam
Originally posted by: shira
I find this technology to be very scary. As indicated in the article, there's no reason that it would be limited to being able to determine only what you've seen. It could easily be extended to determine what you're thinking about.

For one thing, it turns protection against self-incrimination on its head: If you don't subject yourself to a brain scan, your guilt is presumed. If you DO, you're essentially testifying against yourself.

And there are many, many other problems. For example:

Suppose you think unflattering thoughts about someone (your wife, your boss, a relative), but it's not something you would ever actually say out loud.

Or suppose you engage in kinky sexual fantasies for pleasure, with perhaps some of the "action" illegal, but not anything you really intend to do.

Or suppose you merely THINK about actually breaking the law in some way, but ultimately decide against it.

In our present world, none of the above thoughts would "count" against you. You remain a loving husband, a loyal employee, a favorite nephew, a morally-upright citizen. But can you imagine a world in which the fact that someone could ask you - to "prove" your worthiness - to subject yourself to a brain scan that could determine all your private thoughts?

I think it's a terrifying prospect.

Interesting. I don't have any private thoughts I would worry about being public.

If people knew my private thoughts, I'd be in big trouble.
 

PricklyPete

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Originally posted by: tontod
This could have big implications in the criminal justice system too. Would work great in the case of alibis.

If applied to the Criminal Justice system...I see this being a mess.
 

FerrelGeek

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Originally posted by: 3chordcharlie
Originally posted by: shira
I find this technology to be very scary. As indicated in the article, there's no reason that it would be limited to being able to determine only what you've seen. It could easily be extended to determine what you're thinking about.

For one thing, it turns protection against self-incrimination on its head: If you don't subject yourself to a brain scan, your guilt is presumed. If you DO, you're essentially testifying against yourself.

And there are many, many other problems. For example:

Suppose you think unflattering thoughts about someone (your wife, your boss, a relative), but it's not something you would ever actually say out loud.

Or suppose you engage in kinky sexual fantasies for pleasure, with perhaps some of the "action" illegal, but not anything you really intend to do.

Or suppose you merely THINK about actually breaking the law in some way, but ultimately decide against it.

In our present world, none of the above thoughts would "count" against you. You remain a loving husband, a loyal employee, a favorite nephew, a morally-upright citizen. But can you imagine a world in which the fact that someone could ask you - to "prove" your worthiness - to subject yourself to a brain scan that could determine all your private thoughts?

I think it's a terrifying prospect.

I think we should accelerate this research; it's about time we had a way to screen people for thought crimes. That way we can put away all the dangerous people before they can cause any damage.

I certainly hope for your sake that you're being sarcastic. If you are, then :); if not, then you're everything that you allegedly claim to hate.

shira has it correct here.
 

StageLeft

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Originally posted by: DucatiMonster696
If this technology develops well it could be used to solve crimes.
We'll do it for the kids. Even one pedophile put behind bars makes it worth it to do whatever :0