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aigomorla

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Originally posted by: taltamir
its a choice... do you want to OC your CPU more? then go with an intel mobo and get crossfire.
You want to get faster video cards? then OC your CPU a little less and get an nvidia mobo with SLI.

Personally the second option makes more sense. Because the higher end games are all video card limited. So two 8800GTS in SLI with an E8400 @ 3.5-3.8ghz will give you more in games then two 3870 in xfire with E4800 @4ghz

Click on that link i gave you.


Its a 3870X2

It benches about the same as Xfire with 2 3870's on 1 Card option. You add 2 you get 4 3870's.

Now if 2 3870's can keep up with with a SLI 8800GTS (G92) and sometimes even beat it, then image what 4 can do.



Also, 4ghz requires a lot of stable eq. Expecially if you hope to keep it prime stable. Go with my board and PSU recomendation expecially since it fits your budget. The video card is up to you.
 

taltamir

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4 crossfire is not available yet.
and the nvidia 9800GX2 also is not available.

You can wait a couple of monthes and then decide which route to go. But right now neither works.
And two 3870 cards work better then a single 3870x2 card.

Anyways, you can get 8800GTS in SLI, and then in a couple of months upgrade and sell your existing cards on ebay.
 

aigomorla

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Originally posted by: taltamir
4 crossfire is not available yet.
and the nvidia 9800GX2 also is not available.

You can wait a couple of monthes and then decide which route to go. But right now neither works.
And two 3870 cards work better then a single 3870x2 card.

Anyways, you can get 8800GTS in SLI, and then in a couple of months upgrade and sell your existing cards on ebay.



And you can buy the cards now. LOOK AT LINK I GAVE ABOVE

Drivers should come out soon.
 

MTDEW

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ryanneedzhelp,
As i'm sure youve noticed by now, even when you are "up to date" on the latest hardware, it doesnt make choosing any easier....LOL

And of course, no matter which you choose, there always seems like theres a "catch", but thats what keeps the products competitive, they each have their own strengths and weaknesses.

Believe me we would ALL LOVE to have Intel Chipsets with SLi support!!
But Nvidia just wont let that happen yet, hopefully in the future. (knock on wood)


I figured i'd better point out that the Abit IP35 Pro mobo i suggested, does not support SLI.
I chose that motherboard because its known to hit 500fsb consistently.
And it has RAID , which you wanted.
And it is an Intel chipset, just like all my personal pcs are because the Intel chipsets seem a bit more stable than Nvidia's at high fsb bus speeds.
(i figured i'd better be clear on the no sli support just in case you werent aware)

And thats also why i chose the Gskill ddr2 1000 ram, because it will get you to 500fsb also.

That way the only thing holdng you back, would be the cpu because you'd have a motherboard and ram that both did 500fsb and wouldnt hold back your cpu overclock.
500fsb would get your cpu to 4.5ghz and the cpu is most likely to "top out" its overclock before 4.5ghz especially on air cooling.
(so you have "headroom" with the mobo and ram)




Anyway, if you choose Sli and the 780i motherboard, just be SURE you get ram thats KNOWN to work well with that board/nvidia chipset.
And be aware, that there will most likely be more "tweaking" / "troubleshooting" with the 780i/sli board.

But that doesnt mean i think its a its a bad choice, it just means that some people have no problems getting the 780i boards to a high fsb and others with the same hardware seem to have nothing but issues.

And nobody seems to know exactly why.
I do know its not user error or lack of knowledge, because ive seen some people who definitely know their hardware get frustrated and have no luck with the Nvidia boards.

Thats not meant to keep you from buying a 780i board, i just want you to be AWARE, that it could go smoothly or it could take some patience to tweak to get it stable at the speeds you want.

Your best bet, is if you want to go Sli / 780i, then ask in the motherboard forum, who has that 780i board and what other hardware they are running at a stable / high fsb and try to stick to the components that are already proven to work together with that motherboard.
That will definitely increase your chances of a high/stable overclock on a Nvidia board.

And look at what hardware the boutique pc shops use with the 780i boards in their HIGH END / OVERCLOCKED offerings. (like Falcon Northwest / Alienware / Hypersonic etc..etc..)
Because if they sell MANY systems that all are overclocked , then that proves the 780i board and components they use for thier overclocks produce consistant enough results to be repeated time and time again.

And good luck with your setup.

Hopefully us suggesting "back and forth" in this thread doesnt distract you from the best reason to build a pc.
Its just plain fun to put a pc together yourself and see how fast you can make it go...LOL





 

TTjd

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Need a monitor? try the Samsung 40' LCD Flat screen television as it comes with VGA input, HDMI, and component. I use one for my computer and it doubles as a TV also. Screen resolution is as high as 1980 x 1080. it is a 1080p tv

I play Witcher, Madden 08, Oblivion mainly and the screen looks better than any monitor ive seen.
 

Apocalypse23

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Maybe go with a setup similar to mine in my signature. I built it for 1300$ CAD (not incliding monitor) after taxes. One more thing, you can't play Crysis with filtering on and it's a shame that its not smooth even for the best cards out there today, so i would say go SLI if you game with 4x AA and 16x AF , if not, stick to a single card, get the radeon 3870x2 perhaps or a low budget 8800 gts. only go sli with the 8800 512mb gts (G92 1.94ghz only) imo, prices willl come down in 6 months i think for cards. For SLI, go with evga 780i board, for crossfire go with my board. PS- PCI E 2.0 is not necessary for today's systems, so go smart and buy a p35 mobo similar to mine and overclock your e8400. Your most expensive item will be the graphics card and thats the bottom line which one you want it up to you.
 

Amaroque

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If I were you, I'd just buy the fastest Gfx card avail. At the resolutions you want to use, the CPU isn't a bottleneck. Your graphics card(s) are the bottleneck.