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Brain Anomaly Leaves Woman Without Fear

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http://www.businessweek.com/lifestyle/content/healthday/647562.html

Researchers who have studied a woman with a missing amygdala -- the part of the brain believed to generate fear -- report that their findings may help improve treatment for post-traumatic stress disorder (PTSD) and other anxiety disorders.

In perhaps the first human study confirming that the almond-shaped structure is crucial for triggering fear, researchers at the University of Iowa monitored a 44-year-old woman's response to typically frightening stimuli such as snakes, spiders, horror films and a haunted house, and asked about traumatic experiences in her past.

The woman, identified as S.M., does not seem to fear a wide range of stimuli that would normally frighten most people. Scientists have been studying her for the past 20 years, and their prior research had already determined that the woman cannot recognize fear in others' facial expressions.

S.M. suffers from an extremely rare disease that destroyed her amygdala. Future observations will determine if her condition affects anxiety levels for everyday stressors such as finance or health issues, said study author Justin Feinstein, a University of Iowa doctoral student studying clinical neuropsychology.

"Certainly, when it comes to fear, she's missing it," Feinstein said. "She's so unique in her presentation."




How soon will countries apply this to their militaries? Ideally a drug that would temporary disable this portion of the brain would be best, but I can see soldiers volunteering to have the portion just disabled permanently.
 
I wonder if she can feel love? Would she then feel fear of losing a loved one? How does she handle rollercoasters? Height? She will be a guinea pig for the rest of her life
 
I wonder if she can feel love?


I wonder if she feels pain... since it's part of the fight or flight response but if she lost the flight part(no fear) then I don't see how she can feel pain.

It's like holding your hand over fire. Pain is your body telling you you're damaging it but it's the fear it's being damaged that cause you to pull away but if you don't feel fear then does that mean you can tolerate the pain and keep it over the fire or does it mean you don't feel pain at all.
 
I wonder if she feels pain... since it's part of the fight or flight response but if she lost the flight part(no fear) then I don't see how she can feel pain.

Pain is your nervous system responding to outside stimuli. It's not a fear induced response since children are constantly doing things out of curiosity (no fear) and feeling pain if it's something that causes them to be hurt. So I don't think pain is dependent on fear.
 
I can see soldiers volunteering to have the portion just disabled permanently.
This would be beyond stupid. We stay alive because we fear obviously dangerous things. A life without fear would be a very short one, especially in the company of other people with the same disability, and doubly so in a danger-rich environment like the military. I wouldn't be surprised if this "S.M." needed constant attention from others in order not to kill herself.
 
I think this happened to Batman once, after exposure to one of Scarecrow's drugs. A person totally without fear wouldn't survive long because they wouldn't shy away from situations, animals, etc, that would easily kill them.

Also, a soldier without fear wouldn't be in a nation's best interest at all. For nearly the same reasons as above.
 
This would be beyond stupid. We stay alive because we fear obviously dangerous things. A life without fear would be a very short one, especially in the company of other people with the same disability, and doubly so in a danger-rich environment like the military. I wouldn't be surprised if this "S.M." needed constant attention from others in order not to kill herself.

You don't stick your hand in a fire because you fear the pain, but you also don't stick your hand in because you don't want your skin burned.
Seems that the logical part of her brain would keep her safe.
 
Pain is your nervous system responding to outside stimuli. It's not a fear induced response since children are constantly doing things out of curiosity (no fear) and feeling pain if it's something that causes them to be hurt. So I don't think pain is dependent on fear.

Well yes but maybe no. There has to be some fear response associated with it. It's the fear of pain that makes you do something to reduce the pain. That's why people are afraid of needles, etc. So if you are not afraid, couldn't you have the mindset to keep your hand over fire? To take the pain because you're not afraid?
 
I think this happened to Batman once, after exposure to one of Scarecrow's drugs. A person totally without fear wouldn't survive long because they wouldn't shy away from situations, animals, etc, that would easily kill them.

Also, a soldier without fear wouldn't be in a nation's best interest at all. For nearly the same reasons as above.

I remember that episode 😀 It was very cool.

Isn't Daredevil 'The man without fear"? She could be a superhero now.
 
Well yes but maybe no. There has to be some fear response associated with it. It's the fear of pain that makes you do something to reduce the pain. That's why people are afraid of needles, etc. So if you are not afraid, couldn't you have the mindset to keep your hand over fire? To take the pain because you're not afraid?

It's the pain and threat of further pain that conditions the fear response.
 
How soon will countries apply this to their militaries? Ideally a drug that would temporary disable this portion of the brain would be best, but I can see soldiers volunteering to have the portion just disabled permanently.

There is a drug that disables this part of the brain. It's called beta blockers.
 
lol I'm not sure if this is from the same woman... but look at her drawing for afraid
amygdala.jpg
 
There was also this other study done where they injected beta agonists onto the amygdala prior to a learning task.. and that basically gave the person photographic memory.
It's like how you remember what you did when you found out about 9/11.
lol I'd probably get PTSD about my exam material using this to study.
 
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There was also this other study done where they injected beta agonists onto the amygdala prior to a learning task.. and that basically gave the person photographic memory.
It's like how you remember what you did when you found out about 9/11.
lol I'd probably get PTSD about my exam material using this to study.

The term for that is flashbulb memories 😉

The amygdala is also responsible for very intense emotion, such as anger.
 
There was also this other study done where they injected beta agonists onto the amygdala prior to a learning task.. and that basically gave the person photographic memory.
It's like how you remember what you did when you found out about 9/11.
lol I'd probably get PTSD about my exam material using this to study.

I require some in an IV undiluted. Now.
 
This would be beyond stupid. We stay alive because we fear obviously dangerous things. A life without fear would be a very short one, especially in the company of other people with the same disability, and doubly so in a danger-rich environment like the military. I wouldn't be surprised if this "S.M." needed constant attention from others in order not to kill herself.

Yea there are folks that can't feel pain as well. They have trouble just surviving life. they don't know when to stop and just break their bodies.
 
Yea there are folks that can't feel pain as well. They have trouble just surviving life. they don't know when to stop and just break their bodies.

Yep. As cool as it might initially seem, not being able to feel pain (especially in your extremities) is a very dangerous condition to have. It's why many individuals with diabetic neuropathy end up losing fingers/toes or needing to have limbs amputated.
 
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