Boycot Naked Dixie chics?
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They look better with their clothes on.
I can't wait until the tearful plea on ABC tonight (actually I'll be watching the Lakers game)...
"Boo hoo, we were just exercising our first amendment rights, now nobody wants to buy our records or hear us on the radio and we're not selling out arenas on our upcoming tour... it's just so unamerican. We love Jessic Lynch and all our soldiers... hopefully she'll be in our next video."
France and the Baghdad Babes are finding out that exercising your rights is not always free... especially when you ally yourself with a losing cause. Freedom requires sacrifice, and it sure sounds like these girls (and their new buddy Bruce Springfield) expect to profit by waving a US flag but consider it unamerican to suffer poor album and ticket sales when you exercise your first amendment right to burn it.
I can't wait until the tearful plea on ABC tonight (actually I'll be watching the Lakers game)...
"Boo hoo, we were just exercising our first amendment rights, now nobody wants to buy our records or hear us on the radio and we're not selling out arenas on our upcoming tour... it's just so unamerican. We love Jessic Lynch and all our soldiers... hopefully she'll be in our next video."
France and the Baghdad Babes are finding out that exercising your rights is not always free... especially when you ally yourself with a losing cause. Freedom requires sacrifice, and it sure sounds like these girls (and their new buddy Bruce Springfield) expect to profit by waving a US flag but consider it unamerican to suffer poor album and ticket sales when you exercise your first amendment right to burn it.
6 million copies sold, 34 weeks on the charts, and number one on the country charts as recently as last week. Seems the only people boycotting them are those who never bought their stuff in the first place.
Ticket sales seem to be doing just fine as well.
Originally posted by: Fausto1
6 million copies sold, 34 weeks on the charts, and number one on the country charts as recently as last week. Seems the only people boycotting them are those who never bought their stuff in the first place.
Ticket sales seem to be doing just fine as well.
The whole Dixie Chick thing was ridiculous to begin with. Let it go. They have a right to their opinion, people have the right to boycott blah blah blah. Obviously not enough people care to where it makes a difference. As a Texan I agree with what they said. I don't want people thinking that all Texans are like Bush.
Originally posted by: Fausto1
6 million copies sold, 34 weeks on the charts, and number one on the country charts as recently as last week. Seems the only people boycotting them are those who never bought their stuff in the first place.
Ticket sales seem to be doing just fine as well.
And 50 cent has two albums in Billboard top 10. Then there's Kelly Clarkston, Cher, Linkin Park, Lisa Marie Presley, Justin Timberlake, and the Lizzie McGuire soundtrack all above The Dixie Chicks.
I never claimed Americans had good taste in music.
Originally posted by: Stark
And 50 cent has two albums in Billboard top 10. Then there's Kelly Clarkston, Cher, Linkin Park, Lisa Marie Presley, Justin Timberlake, and the Lizzie McGuire soundtrack all above The Dixie Chicks.
I never claimed Americans had good taste in music.
The point was that the financial backlash that all the Bush people seemed to envision never happened.
Originally posted by: Stark
Originally posted by: Fausto1
6 million copies sold, 34 weeks on the charts, and number one on the country charts as recently as last week. Seems the only people boycotting them are those who never bought their stuff in the first place.
Ticket sales seem to be doing just fine as well.
And 50 cent has two albums in Billboard top 10. Then there's Kelly Clarkston, Cher, Linkin Park, Lisa Marie Presley, Justin Timberlake, and the Lizzie McGuire soundtrack all above The Dixie Chicks.
I never claimed Americans had good taste in music.
Come on now, you know that's not the point.
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Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Stark
And 50 cent has two albums in Billboard top 10. Then there's Kelly Clarkston, Cher, Linkin Park, Lisa Marie Presley, Justin Timberlake, and the Lizzie McGuire soundtrack all above The Dixie Chicks.
I never claimed Americans had good taste in music.
The point was that the financial backlash that all the Bush people seemed to envision never happened.
replace "all the Bush people" with "their manager" and you might have the jist of it
It's just another example of the dumbing down of America. Most of those people calling in to radio stations couldn't articulate why they're so outraged at the Dixie Chicks beyond, "They otta keep thur mouths shut like good Umericuns." I'll bet most of them couldn't answer 5 basic questions about the Constitution of the United States.
It's called Operation Iraqi Freedom. Did they see the pictures of those Iraqi citizens celebrating when the American troops arrived in Baghdad? What were they so happy about? These people lived in a country where you weren't allowed to speak out for fear of retribution. This was a country where you didn't say anything bad about your leader for fear of punishment. One of the reasons our troops went over there was to put an end to that sort of thing. Do you think any of those people calling into radio stations saying the Dixie Chicks are unAmerican get the irony?
It's called Operation Iraqi Freedom. Did they see the pictures of those Iraqi citizens celebrating when the American troops arrived in Baghdad? What were they so happy about? These people lived in a country where you weren't allowed to speak out for fear of retribution. This was a country where you didn't say anything bad about your leader for fear of punishment. One of the reasons our troops went over there was to put an end to that sort of thing. Do you think any of those people calling into radio stations saying the Dixie Chicks are unAmerican get the irony?
umm..i think YOU missed the point.
The Iraqi people were oppressed by thier GOVERNMENT..get it?...not by each other per say.
And the freedom thing you are talking about..that door swings both ways. Now if our government was doing something to these girls the you would have a point. But you are talking about people who are/were fans who have a right to speak out in a public forum such as radio and speak thier mind...agree or disagree it is thier right, just like it was her right to say what she said....unfortunately for her and her bandmates there might be some ramifications from the public.
If the financial backlash wasn't legit, they wouldn't be bawling their eyes out on TV and pleading for some kind of forgiveness. I really think its silly. I wouldn't buy their CD but not because they disagree with me politically.
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Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Stark
And 50 cent has two albums in Billboard top 10. Then there's Kelly Clarkston, Cher, Linkin Park, Lisa Marie Presley, Justin Timberlake, and the Lizzie McGuire soundtrack all above The Dixie Chicks.
I never claimed Americans had good taste in music.
The point was that the financial backlash that all the Bush people seemed to envision never happened.
Well it forced the dixie chicks to apologize, and in my opinion that makes them look dumber than making the statement about Bush in the first place. Their ideals flow with their popularity.
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Stark
And 50 cent has two albums in Billboard top 10. Then there's Kelly Clarkston, Cher, Linkin Park, Lisa Marie Presley, Justin Timberlake, and the Lizzie McGuire soundtrack all above The Dixie Chicks.
I never claimed Americans had good taste in music.
The point was that the financial backlash that all the Bush people seemed to envision never happened.
replace "all the Bush people" with "their manager" and you might have the jist of it
They just won a grammy... which usually equates to a big payout and jump on the charts for a CD. It seems like they didn't get it. Oh well.
In the immortal words of Patrick Ewing: Baghdad Babes make a lot of money... but they spend a lot too.
Yup. Yup.
I don't think it's crazy for celebrities to use their status to spread a message, but they should expect some people won't care what they have to say, and others will resent them. That's why there are speech writers and PR people to prevent them from saying something stupid, un-PC, and/or unpatriotic.
Part of this Dixie Chics boycott mentality is sexist in that there is still an attitude among some that women aren't supposed to have political views.
Why don't celebrities understand that they are a product for us to purchase, and if we don't like the label on the product, we aren't going to buy it? This stuff happens all the time and celebrities are always shocked by it. Liberals boycotting orange juice because they advertised on Rush Limbaugh, Bill O'Reilly organizing boycotting Pepsi because they were going to have Ludacris as a spokesperson, The NAACP boycotting "insert product here" for not having a good minority hiring policy, and:
WOW I'M SURPRISED Conservatives boycotting Dixie Chicks because they said they were ashamed of the president. This is nothing new. The Dixie Chicks need to get a better manager, or switch their style of music if they expect to voice their opinions and not get a backlash.
WOW I'M SURPRISED Conservatives boycotting Dixie Chicks because they said they were ashamed of the president. This is nothing new. The Dixie Chicks need to get a better manager, or switch their style of music if they expect to voice their opinions and not get a backlash.
Nobody will even care about this a few months from now. The Chicks will put out another album, people will buy it, business as usual since they'll have a new celebrity activist to bash by then (anyone heard Sean Penn mentioned around here recently? I thought not.) Americans have the collective attention-span of a crack-addicted chipmunk. Honestly, who cares what celebrities have to say about anything? The only difference between me ripping on Bush and them doing so is that they're famous and I'm not. Does this make their opinion any more valid? Nope. Do I give a sh*t if you don't buy their albums? Nope. But the constant chest-beating and yelling about them needing to be deported, lynched, whatever is the Biggest. Waste. Of. Time. Ever. You want to get pissed about something for a purpose? Go get involved in real national or local politics where your opinion actually means something (and I mean "you" collectively, not just StarkOriginally posted by: Stark
Originally posted by: ElFenix
Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Stark
And 50 cent has two albums in Billboard top 10. Then there's Kelly Clarkston, Cher, Linkin Park, Lisa Marie Presley, Justin Timberlake, and the Lizzie McGuire soundtrack all above The Dixie Chicks.
I never claimed Americans had good taste in music.
The point was that the financial backlash that all the Bush people seemed to envision never happened.
replace "all the Bush people" with "their manager" and you might have the jist of it
They just won a grammy... which usually equates to a big payout and jump on the charts for a CD. It seems like they didn't get it. Oh well.
In the immortal words of Patrick Ewing: Baghdad Babes make a lot of money... but they spend a lot too.
)Originally posted by: jaeger66
Originally posted by: Stark
And 50 cent has two albums in Billboard top 10. Then there's Kelly Clarkston, Cher, Linkin Park, Lisa Marie Presley, Justin Timberlake, and the Lizzie McGuire soundtrack all above The Dixie Chicks.
I never claimed Americans had good taste in music.
The point was that the financial backlash that all the Bush people seemed to envision never happened.
Speak for yourself bud. I never envisioned anything to happen with the Dixie Chicks. I never cared.
This is exactly what I'm talking about. So many people can't seem to look any deeper into a topic than what the current helmet-hair is telling them about it.
First of all, if you think the Iraqi people weren't taking part in the suppression of opinion out of fear, and that in turn a lot of people here are either keeping quiet or joining in the bashing for the same reason, you have no understanding of human nature and history.
Secondly, the way that George W. Bush was addressing the questions of many American people about the war and dismissing them as either "for us or against us", was the whole point of the comment made by one of the band members in the first place. When the President of the United States says that you should just go along with whatever he says and not ask any questions or you're not a good American, well that could be interpreted as a form of oppression by many thinking people.
Then there's the legislator in South Carolina who made a speech in a government building, during a government meeting, as a government representative saying that when the Dixie Chicks start their tour there next week that people should run them out of town and anyone who attends the concert should be run out of town with them. He's not trying to intimidate or suppress the opinions of anyone is he?
Thirdly, of course people have a right to speak out and voice their opinion of anyone and anything; and I'm all for boycotts of products by those you want to send a message to, but that's not all that happened here. You have people calling into radion stations saying in a much ruder way than this, that these women and their families shouldn't be allowed to live in this country if they're going to question anything our government does. (This should sound awfully familiar to those of you old enough to remember the treatment of young people who opposed the Vietnam War.) Not to mention the radio station DJ who said he had their home addresses and that a mob should get together and go down there and teach them a lesson. Or the many death threats they've received over the air waves and in letters.
Fourth, yeah it does have something to do with their fan base and sexism and they should have known they'd get hit hard for expressing their opionions, but that doesn't make it the all-American thing to do. Where's the boycott against "The West Wing"? Martin Sheen went way out there in his protesting of the war in parades and television and radion commercials. Where's the outrage? What about Bruce Springsteen? Where are the headlines and the death threats?
Like I said before, the people doing these things have absolutely no understanding of what real American values are and what sort of behaviors make you un-American.
Get it?
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