Boy who fired bottle rockets into traffic dies fleeing driver

[frodrick]

alive kid should be charged with something similar to assault with a deadly weapon. passenger should be charged with assault/battery. driver should be charged with assault. if dead kid weren't dead, he should be charged similar to his friend, but he's dead so the world is a better place. too bad both kids didn't run into traffic.

 

[silverpig]

Not responsible for the death. Charge one with assault on the minor, and both of them with leaving the scene.

 

[QuitBanningMe]

Originally posted by: silverpig
Not responsible for the death. Charge one with assault on the minor, and both of them with leaving the scene.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: codeyf
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SPANAWAY, Wash. ? A driver angry that a 12-year-old Tacoma boy was shooting bottle rockets at cars early today got out of his vehicle and chased the boy into traffic, where he was struck and killed by another car, authorities said.

Witnesses tried to revive the boy, identified by the Pierce County Medical Examiner's Office as Garnet Wilis II. Two men were arrested shortly afterward for investigation of manslaughter, the Washington State Patrol said.

The episode happened around midnight near an intersection on Washington 7 in Spanaway, a small town south of Tacoma. Wilis and his 12-year-old cousin had been hiding in bushes and shooting bottle rockets into traffic, trooper Johnny R. Alexander said.

A green Toyota stopped, and its passenger, Tyrone Sherrod, 22, of Tacoma, got out, chased one of the boys and started beating him, Alexander said.

The Toyota's driver, Mario N. Haley, 22, of Lakewood, made a U-turn and chased the second boy into a nearby parking lot, Alexander said. Haley then got out of the car and continued chasing the boy, who ran onto the highway and was struck by a car driven by a 17-year-old Spanaway girl, the patrol said.

Investigators determined the girl who hit Garnet was not at fault. The other boy was treated for injuries and released to his parents.

Sherrod and Haley fled, but police found them three hours later at homes in Tacoma and Lakewood.

I don't know how to feel about this. I'd be pissed too. Should the guys be responsible for the kids death??

Hell yes, who beats up a 12 year old? He was scared and running for his life! WTF???

 

[BW86]

Originally posted by: stan394

Originally posted by: codeyf
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I don't know how to feel about this. I'd be pissed too. Should the guys be responsible for the kids death??

i think so

of course.

 

[codeyf]

Originally posted by: JulesMaximus

Originally posted by: codeyf
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SPANAWAY, Wash. ? A driver angry that a 12-year-old Tacoma boy was shooting bottle rockets at cars early today got out of his vehicle and chased the boy into traffic, where he was struck and killed by another car, authorities said.

Witnesses tried to revive the boy, identified by the Pierce County Medical Examiner's Office as Garnet Wilis II. Two men were arrested shortly afterward for investigation of manslaughter, the Washington State Patrol said.

The episode happened around midnight near an intersection on Washington 7 in Spanaway, a small town south of Tacoma. Wilis and his 12-year-old cousin had been hiding in bushes and shooting bottle rockets into traffic, trooper Johnny R. Alexander said.

A green Toyota stopped, and its passenger, Tyrone Sherrod, 22, of Tacoma, got out, chased one of the boys and started beating him, Alexander said.

The Toyota's driver, Mario N. Haley, 22, of Lakewood, made a U-turn and chased the second boy into a nearby parking lot, Alexander said. Haley then got out of the car and continued chasing the boy, who ran onto the highway and was struck by a car driven by a 17-year-old Spanaway girl, the patrol said.

Investigators determined the girl who hit Garnet was not at fault. The other boy was treated for injuries and released to his parents.

Sherrod and Haley fled, but police found them three hours later at homes in Tacoma and Lakewood.

I don't know how to feel about this. I'd be pissed too. Should the guys be responsible for the kids death??

Hell yes, who beats up a 12 year old? He was scared and running for his life! WTF???

Just curious, but if you were running for your life, would you run on to a highway? Not meant as a counter-argument or anything, but just asking.

 

[Kadarin]

Originally posted by: Nik
No way are the drivers at fault for the kid's death. The kid mad the choice to run out into traffic and get hit. I'd charge the one guy with assaulting a minor, but what are you going to charge the other guy with? CHASING a minor? It's not like the guy MADE the kid run into traffic, sheesh. Does the law clearly define manslaughter in such a way that would, without a doubt, define the guy chasing the kid as committing a crime? Hell no.

If some little bastard shot bottle rockets at my car, I'd get out and chase him down too. It's not my fault if the dumbass runs out into traffic and gets killed. Dumbass got what he deserved. Natural selection, ya know?

I agree. :thumbsup:

 

[PHiuR]

he's 12 he shouldnt be out at midnight shooting bottle rockets...

 

[NikPreviousAcct]

To all those saying that the driver needs to be charged with manslaughter, consider the idea stated earlier about if a police officer were chasing the kid. Would the officer be charged with manslaughter? Hell no. Neither should this guy.

What if a really huge biker badass at a bar gets pissed off at some puny fvck who won't leave the biker's girlfriend alone? The biker gets up to beat the hell out of the guy, but the guy runs out of the bar, gets into his car, drives away, but gets into this huge accident because he's more worried about escape than control of the vehicle. The driver kills himself and others in the accident.

Is the biker at fault for all those deaths?

...of course not.

 

[PingSpike]

Originally posted by: tami
yes, they should. they were chasing the kids in a dangerous area. look what they did. now a boy is dead and a 17-year-old girl has to live with the fact that she hit a kid, despite the fact that the police told her that she was not at fault.

Lets say it was an off duty police officer that stops and chased the kid. Should the police officer be charged with manslaughter for doing his job?

No, this is a simple case of instant karma.

The guy that beat up the other kid, assault charge. Charge both with leaving the scene and be done with it.

 

[chambersc]

i wanna see the video? one exist?

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: chambersc
i wanna see the video? one exist?

Yes of course one exists. They had a television crew out there while the kids shot bottle rockets at motorists. When the chase commenced, the crew chased them to follow the action.

 

[codeyf]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: chambersc
i wanna see the video? one exist?

Yes of course one exists. They had a television crew out there while the kids shot bottle rockets at motorists. When the chase commenced, the crew chased them to follow the action.

Consequently, the camera crew is being charged as acomplices. The kid was also running as he didn't want to be identified/on tv.

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: codeyf

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: chambersc
i wanna see the video? one exist?

Yes of course one exists. They had a television crew out there while the kids shot bottle rockets at motorists. When the chase commenced, the crew chased them to follow the action.

Consequently, the camera crew is being charged as acomplices. The kid was also running as he didn't want to be identified/on tv.

Looks like codeyf also has the inside scoop!

 

[frodrick]

Originally posted by: Nik
To all those saying that the driver needs to be charged with manslaughter, consider the idea stated earlier about if a police officer were chasing the kid. Would the officer be charged with manslaughter? Hell no. Neither should this guy.

What if a really huge biker badass at a bar gets pissed off at some puny fvck who won't leave the biker's girlfriend alone? The biker gets up to beat the hell out of the guy, but the guy runs out of the bar, gets into his car, drives away, but gets into this huge accident because he's more worried about escape than control of the vehicle. The driver kills himself and others in the accident.

Is the biker at fault for all those deaths?

...of course not.

of course he shouldn't get hit up for manslaughter. he didn't actually do the killing. however, he should definitely be charged with assault.

 

[Nebben]

I don't know how to feel about this. I'd be pissed too. Should the guys be responsible for the kids death??

A green Toyota stopped, and its passenger, Tyrone Sherrod, 22, of Tacoma, got out, chased one of the boys and started beating him, Alexander said.

Yes. You don't chase a little kid and attack him for something like that. That guy is more of an idiot than the kid is.

He's an adult, he should have more brains than that. The kid did something stupid, don't get me wrong, but a 22 year old should have more maturity than to do that. Pull your car over, call the cops, let them handle it.

I don't think he should be charged with manslaughter, but he should definitely feel some responsibility for the kid being killed...

 

[sygyzy]

Originally posted by: Nebben

I don't know how to feel about this. I'd be pissed too. Should the guys be responsible for the kids death??

A green Toyota stopped, and its passenger, Tyrone Sherrod, 22, of Tacoma, got out, chased one of the boys and started beating him, Alexander said.

Yes. You don't chase a little kid and attack him for something like that. That guy is more of an idiot than the kid is.

He's an adult, he should have more brains than that. The kid did something stupid, don't get me wrong, but a 22 year old should have more maturity than to do that. Pull your car over, call the cops, let them handle it.

I don't think he should be charged with manslaughter, but he should definitely feel some responsibility for the kid being killed...

Did you read the article from Atlanta? The cops said by the time it gets there (a few minutes), there is nobody to arrest or catch because the kids are long gone. Sorry, the real world does not operate that way.

 

[classy]

This is a tough one. In reality the two men were actually victims of assault. But its the old question did their response go to far. They had the right to try and stop them because those kids could have killed someone or worse cause a major accident where several people could have died.

 

[Nebben]

Originally posted by: sygyzy

Originally posted by: Nebben

I don't know how to feel about this. I'd be pissed too. Should the guys be responsible for the kids death??

A green Toyota stopped, and its passenger, Tyrone Sherrod, 22, of Tacoma, got out, chased one of the boys and started beating him, Alexander said.

Yes. You don't chase a little kid and attack him for something like that. That guy is more of an idiot than the kid is.

He's an adult, he should have more brains than that. The kid did something stupid, don't get me wrong, but a 22 year old should have more maturity than to do that. Pull your car over, call the cops, let them handle it.

I don't think he should be charged with manslaughter, but he should definitely feel some responsibility for the kid being killed...

Did you read the article from Atlanta? The cops said by the time it gets there (a few minutes), there is nobody to arrest or catch because the kids are long gone. Sorry, the real world does not operate that way.

Oh, that one.

What's wrong with catching the kid and pinning him on the ground? :/

 

[Chrono]

Fvck the kids! I have to deal with bratty kids playing and causing trouble all the damn time. I'm glad the kid got what he deserved.

 

[Nebben]

Anyone think parenting has something to do with this, or am I in the minority here? Because my parents taught me stuff like "how to not do really stupid things" and "how to respect other humans" and I don't recall ever doing things such as shooting explosives into traffic.

But hey, that's just me.

 

[quakefiend420]

the man who chased the kid into traffic isn't responsible for his death...he was actually assulted by the kids...

the kid that's still alive should be charged with assult for firing the bottle rocket.

the man who beat on the kid should be charged with assult as well...but personally, i would have smacked him also...i don't think i would have beat his ass...but i would have slapped him for being a douchebag anyway

 

[sonoma1993]

there was news article that was close to this one a few weeks ago. some kids were shooting bottle rocket into traffic, one went into a semi truck. id dont remember what all happen just the part about the bottle rocket going into a semi and hitting the driver.

 

[myusername]

Much like someone robbing a bank while a patron has a heart-attack, the chaser should face manslaughter charges since the death occurred during the comission of a crime (assault and intent to batter).

The only reason cops get away with it is because they are not committing a crime by running down a fugitive.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: myusername
Much like someone robbing a bank while a patron has a heart-attack, the chaser should face manslaughter charges since the death occurred during the comission of a crime (assault and intent to batter).

The only reason cops get away with it is because they are not committing a crime by running down a fugitive.

All the guy did was chase him, he didn't have a chance to commit a crime before the kid ran into traffic. The kid was stupid to run across a highway to try to get away from him.

No, I don't think the driver should be charged with anything, the passenger should be charged with whatever is appropriate for beating the other kid.

I really hope the parents didn't know their kids were out at midnight.

Edit: You do raise a good point though, and if the kid didn't initiate the incident I'd be more inclined to agree with you.