Boy fights to be given second round of chemo

[Pens1566]

Update

Judge finds parents "neglectful". Orders treatement to continue.

Bottom of the article says the boy only had 3 months of treatment before he decided to quit. News flash, that isn't a long enought course to treat Hodgkins. No wonder it didn't work.

 

[judasmachine]

Originally posted by: zendari

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy

Originally posted by: zendari
Damn waste of tax dollars.

Not that it matters to you... But most people would see this situation as a moral issue, not a financial one.

Wasting the money of taxpayers is most certainly immoral.

On a side note, we see what zen worships. Oh great little green pieces of paper, please save us all.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Pens1566
Update

Judge finds parents "neglectful". Orders treatement to continue.

Bottom of the article says the boy only had 3 months of treatment before he decided to quit. News flash, that isn't a long enought course to treat Hodgkins. No wonder it didn't work.

So which set of Politicians benefits from this takeover of the kid?

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pens1566
Update

Judge finds parents "neglectful". Orders treatement to continue.

Bottom of the article says the boy only had 3 months of treatment before he decided to quit. News flash, that isn't a long enought course to treat Hodgkins. No wonder it didn't work.

So which set of Politicians benefits from this takeover of the kid?

Neither. It's Virginia.

The only one I see benefitting is the kid, now he might actually live.

 

[dmcowen674]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: dmcowen674

Originally posted by: Pens1566
Update

Judge finds parents "neglectful". Orders treatement to continue.

Bottom of the article says the boy only had 3 months of treatment before he decided to quit. News flash, that isn't a long enought course to treat Hodgkins. No wonder it didn't work.

So which set of Politicians benefits from this takeover of the kid?

Neither. It's Virginia.

The only one I see benefitting is the kid, now he might actually live.

So he lives and provides tax income for Virginia?

If the kid was an illegal would Virginia gone through so much trouble to cure him?

 

[Pens1566]

Not likely. He's only 16. If anything, he's costing the state money from the court case/medical fees. Who knows about the illegal alien bit. Where are you going with this?

 

[shadow9d9]

See people... all that arguing for nothing.. if he didn't go through enough chemo for even the first treatment, then his parents are definitely neglectful according to the law.. the charge was VERY MUCH warranted... so much for "nanny government".. unless you consider looking after kids to be nanny..

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
See people... all that arguing for nothing.. if he didn't go through enough chemo for even the first treatment, then his parents are definitely neglectful according to the law.. the charge was VERY MUCH warranted... so much for "nanny government".. unless you consider looking after kids to be nanny..

Of course there will be no replies from that crowd.

 

[daniel49]

Hmm, getting in way late on this topic but as I listened to the lawyer of the parents last night, I thought he had some good points.
1)As many have already mentioned its his and his parents choice.
2)His odds for success on the second round are being touted at 25%
3)What ever happened to doctor/patient confidentiality? This doctor went to the state with the boys medical records with no release to do so from anybody.
4)they as a family did not neglect him , but after trying chemo once chose an alternative treatment from the chemo this lady doctor wanted. (who died and made her God?)

The kid himself as I understand it does not want the treatment and has a seperate lawyer representing him.

 

[GoPackGo]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: shadow9d9
See people... all that arguing for nothing.. if he didn't go through enough chemo for even the first treatment, then his parents are definitely neglectful according to the law.. the charge was VERY MUCH warranted... so much for "nanny government".. unless you consider looking after kids to be nanny..

Of course there will be no replies from that crowd.

I still firmly believe that its a patients/family right to choose course of treatment.

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: daniel49
Hmm, getting in way late on this topic but as I listened to the lawyer of the parents last night, I thought he had some good points.
1)As many have already mentioned its his and his parents choice.
2)His odds for success on the second round are being touted at 25%
3)What ever happened to doctor/patient confidentiality? This doctor went to the state with the boys medical records with no release to do so from anybody.
4)they as a family did not neglect him , but after trying chemo once chose an alternative treatment from the chemo this lady doctor wanted. (who died and made her God?)

The kid himself as I understand it does not want the treatment and has a seperate lawyer representing him.

They didn't even try Chemo "once", meaning, a full session. To say "it didn't work" is really a shocker, it's like going to the Dentist or a Filling then leaving immediately after the Freezing claiming the Filling procedure doesn't work.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel49
Hmm, getting in way late on this topic but as I listened to the lawyer of the parents last night, I thought he had some good points.
1)As many have already mentioned its his and his parents choice.
2)His odds for success on the second round are being touted at 25%
3)What ever happened to doctor/patient confidentiality? This doctor went to the state with the boys medical records with no release to do so from anybody.
4)they as a family did not neglect him , but after trying chemo once chose an alternative treatment from the chemo this lady doctor wanted. (who died and made her God?)

The kid himself as I understand it does not want the treatment and has a seperate lawyer representing him.

They didn't even try Chemo "once", meaning, a full session. To say "it didn't work" is really a shocker, it's like going to the Dentist or a Filling then leaving immediately after the Freezing claiming the Filling procedure doesn't work.

sandy: where did you get that from iits not in op. Searched and articles out there seem to be about from 2nd week of July like this one....which indicate a full first treatment??
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJ.../Lifestyle/Health/lifeHEAL01071006.htm
if you have more current news that show otherwise please link it. 🙂

 

[Jaskalas]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel49
Hmm, getting in way late on this topic but as I listened to the lawyer of the parents last night, I thought he had some good points.
1)As many have already mentioned its his and his parents choice.
2)His odds for success on the second round are being touted at 25%
3)What ever happened to doctor/patient confidentiality? This doctor went to the state with the boys medical records with no release to do so from anybody.
4)they as a family did not neglect him , but after trying chemo once chose an alternative treatment from the chemo this lady doctor wanted. (who died and made her God?)

The kid himself as I understand it does not want the treatment and has a seperate lawyer representing him.

They didn't even try Chemo "once", meaning, a full session. To say "it didn't work" is really a shocker, it's like going to the Dentist or a Filling then leaving immediately after the Freezing claiming the Filling procedure doesn't work.

The guy doesn't want to suffer something he obviously finds intolerable, and you would ... what, force it upon him against his will? Freedom then, is the will of the majority, to do whatever crimes seen fit upon the minority?

By the way, have you seen this 16 year old ?kid?, who you'd force Chemo on?

http://images.google.com/images?q=Abraham+Cherrix&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel49
Hmm, getting in way late on this topic but as I listened to the lawyer of the parents last night, I thought he had some good points.
1)As many have already mentioned its his and his parents choice.
2)His odds for success on the second round are being touted at 25%
3)What ever happened to doctor/patient confidentiality? This doctor went to the state with the boys medical records with no release to do so from anybody.
4)they as a family did not neglect him , but after trying chemo once chose an alternative treatment from the chemo this lady doctor wanted. (who died and made her God?)

The kid himself as I understand it does not want the treatment and has a seperate lawyer representing him.

They didn't even try Chemo "once", meaning, a full session. To say "it didn't work" is really a shocker, it's like going to the Dentist or a Filling then leaving immediately after the Freezing claiming the Filling procedure doesn't work.

The guy doesn't want to suffer something he obviously finds intolerable, and you would ... what, force it upon him against his will? Freedom then, is the will of the majority, to do whatever crimes seen fit upon the minority?

By the way, have you seen this 16 year old ?kid?, who you'd force Chemo on?

http://images.google.com/images?q=Abraham+Cherrix&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Yes. I thought I made that clear. 😱

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel49
Hmm, getting in way late on this topic but as I listened to the lawyer of the parents last night, I thought he had some good points.
1)As many have already mentioned its his and his parents choice.
2)His odds for success on the second round are being touted at 25%
3)What ever happened to doctor/patient confidentiality? This doctor went to the state with the boys medical records with no release to do so from anybody.
4)they as a family did not neglect him , but after trying chemo once chose an alternative treatment from the chemo this lady doctor wanted. (who died and made her God?)

The kid himself as I understand it does not want the treatment and has a seperate lawyer representing him.

They didn't even try Chemo "once", meaning, a full session. To say "it didn't work" is really a shocker, it's like going to the Dentist or a Filling then leaving immediately after the Freezing claiming the Filling procedure doesn't work.

sandy: where did you get that from iits not in op. Searched and articles out there seem to be about from 2nd week of July like this one....which indicate a full first treatment??
http://www.news-journalonline.com/NewsJ.../Lifestyle/Health/lifeHEAL01071006.htm
if you have more current news that show otherwise please link it. 🙂

Hmm, I thought I read it somewhere. At any rate, it's not unusual for the need of a second round of chemo.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: Jaskalas

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel49
Hmm, getting in way late on this topic but as I listened to the lawyer of the parents last night, I thought he had some good points.
1)As many have already mentioned its his and his parents choice.
2)His odds for success on the second round are being touted at 25%
3)What ever happened to doctor/patient confidentiality? This doctor went to the state with the boys medical records with no release to do so from anybody.
4)they as a family did not neglect him , but after trying chemo once chose an alternative treatment from the chemo this lady doctor wanted. (who died and made her God?)

The kid himself as I understand it does not want the treatment and has a seperate lawyer representing him.

They didn't even try Chemo "once", meaning, a full session. To say "it didn't work" is really a shocker, it's like going to the Dentist or a Filling then leaving immediately after the Freezing claiming the Filling procedure doesn't work.

The guy doesn't want to suffer something he obviously finds intolerable, and you would ... what, force it upon him against his will? Freedom then, is the will of the majority, to do whatever crimes seen fit upon the minority?

By the way, have you seen this 16 year old ?kid?, who you'd force Chemo on?

http://images.google.com/images?q=Abraham+Cherrix&hl=en&btnG=Search+Images

Yes. I thought I made that clear. 😱

you failed to answer my question Sanddorski...Do you have an answer?

 

[sandorski]

look up

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: sandorski
look up

ok...that answers my ? he did in fact recieve a full treatment with no sign of cancer for 2 months at which point it returned.

A second round may not be unusual but neither is it a guarantee. Shouldn't that be up to the teen and his folks?

 

[sandorski]

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: sandorski
look up

ok...that answers my ? he did in fact recieve a full treatment with no sign of cancer for 2 months at which point it returned.

A second round may not be unusual but neither is it a guarantee. Shouldn't that be up to the teen and his folks?

85% effective, it's a no-brainer what to do. Definitely not up to the teen, teens are too immature and whiny to make such decisions. Parents perhaps, but they chose stupidly.

 

[daniel49]

Originally posted by: sandorski

Originally posted by: daniel49

Originally posted by: sandorski
look up

ok...that answers my ? he did in fact recieve a full treatment with no sign of cancer for 2 months at which point it returned.

A second round may not be unusual but neither is it a guarantee. Shouldn't that be up to the teen and his folks?

85% effective, it's a no-brainer what to do. Definitely not up to the teen, teens are too immature and whiny to make such decisions. Parents perhaps, but they chose stupidly.

the lawyer last night set the success rate for his clients son at 25%.
I am not sure what he based that on however.

 

[Pens1566]

The lawyer is most likely spouting a big heap of BS. Any stage of Hodgkins with a success rate of 25% is not going to be treated with ONLY 3 months of chemo. Especially if it "disappeared and then returned" in a few months. So, either they didn't finish a full course of treatment, or the lawyer is lying about the % survival of the kid.

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

UPDATE

The kid wins in court.

Link

Teen With Cancer Can Forgo Chemotherapy
Aug 16 10:43 AM US/Eastern
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By SONJA BARISIC
Associated Press Writer


ACCOMAC, Va.


A 16-year-old cancer patient 's legal fight ended in victory Wednesday when his family's attorneys and social services officials reached an agreement that would allow him to forgo chemotherapy.

At the start of what was scheduled to be a two-day hearing, Accomack County Circuit Judge Glen A. Tyler announced that both sides had reached a consent decree, which Tyler approved.



Under the decree, Starchild Abraham Cherrix, who is battling Hodgkin's disease, will be treated by an oncologist of his choice who is board- certified in radiation therapy and interested in alternative treatments. The family must provide the court updates on Abraham's treatment and condition every three months until he's cured or turns 18.

Tyler emphasized that the decree states that the parents weren't medically neglectful.

Abraham saw the doctor last week, and defense attorneys told the judge that the doctor has indicated that he thinks that Abraham can be cured.

 

[Pens1566]

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
UPDATE

The kid wins in court.

Link

Teen With Cancer Can Forgo Chemotherapy
Aug 16 10:43 AM US/Eastern
Email this story

By SONJA BARISIC
Associated Press Writer


ACCOMAC, Va.


A 16-year-old cancer patient 's legal fight ended in victory Wednesday when his family's attorneys and social services officials reached an agreement that would allow him to forgo chemotherapy.

At the start of what was scheduled to be a two-day hearing, Accomack County Circuit Judge Glen A. Tyler announced that both sides had reached a consent decree, which Tyler approved.



Under the decree, Starchild Abraham Cherrix, who is battling Hodgkin's disease, will be treated by an oncologist of his choice who is board- certified in radiation therapy and interested in alternative treatments. The family must provide the court updates on Abraham's treatment and condition every three months until he's cured or turns 18.

Tyler emphasized that the decree states that the parents weren't medically neglectful.

Abraham saw the doctor last week, and defense attorneys told the judge that the doctor has indicated that he thinks that Abraham can be cured.

And will lose his life. 🙁

 

[Whoozyerdaddy]

Originally posted by: Pens1566

Originally posted by: Whoozyerdaddy
UPDATE

The kid wins in court.

Link

Teen With Cancer Can Forgo Chemotherapy
Aug 16 10:43 AM US/Eastern
Email this story

By SONJA BARISIC
Associated Press Writer


ACCOMAC, Va.


A 16-year-old cancer patient 's legal fight ended in victory Wednesday when his family's attorneys and social services officials reached an agreement that would allow him to forgo chemotherapy.

At the start of what was scheduled to be a two-day hearing, Accomack County Circuit Judge Glen A. Tyler announced that both sides had reached a consent decree, which Tyler approved.



Under the decree, Starchild Abraham Cherrix, who is battling Hodgkin's disease, will be treated by an oncologist of his choice who is board- certified in radiation therapy and interested in alternative treatments. The family must provide the court updates on Abraham's treatment and condition every three months until he's cured or turns 18.

Tyler emphasized that the decree states that the parents weren't medically neglectful.

Abraham saw the doctor last week, and defense attorneys told the judge that the doctor has indicated that he thinks that Abraham can be cured.

And will lose his life. 🙁

Most likely...