I agree. I was asking what I thought to be a pretty easy question to understand. Those with an anti-Israeli stance seem unwilling to answer the question, which is very telling IMO.
I agree. I was asking what I thought to be a pretty easy question to understand. Those with an anti-Israeli stance seem unwilling to answer the question, which is very telling IMO.
The Anti isreal?sharon croud makes it seem like Sharon has been in charge of Isreal for decades like Arafat or any one of the other mideast dicatorship/monarchys. Sharon has been in power only a few years. What was the excuse before Sharon. What about Barak? What about Rabin? What about the rest? It was all of the right? Never Araft (who is an Egyption by the way!)
if they want to kill each other that's fine by me, just don't come to US trying to blow everyone up. Of course I'd also propose that we stop any military assitance and equipments that we gave Israel. Let them do whatever they want, if Hamas and Jihad want to commit suicide and blow Israel, go ahaead, if Israel want to wipe Palenstinian go ahead too, people in that region create misery for each other and destroy each other, because thay want to do that. How and why should we, outsider, stop them?
Maybe after a decades or two there'll be no palestinian or Israelis left on earth, and then peace could reign in that region... now isn't that a happy ending?
Maybe after a decades or two there'll be no palestinian or Israelis left on earth, and then peace could reign in that region... now isn't that a happy ending?
sad to say but this is the result of bad policy on the part of the Palestinians. They wanted the intifada. Their gov't, which should have made the prudent and logical choice of working for a long-term peace deal, opted to support the popular choice (just because something is supported by the majority of people doesn't mean it's the right choice), and now israel has unleashed her army on the Palestinian people. The people will suffer for their actions and their government's stupidity.
I know, those stupid asses complaining about their country being taken over by. What the heck is their problem? DO NOT RESIST. ahaha.
Your level of intelligence is amazing, you remind me of that TV show where a monkey scored higher on IQ test than a human.
yeah, they resisted and look at what happened. The fact is that the Palestinians got their emotions all riled up and ran with it. That is the danger when you let your emotions carry the day. Couple that with an inept and corrupt government (and religious zealotry) and you have a dangerous cocktail of infantile political indiscretion.
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the palestinians could learn a few things from dr king and ghandi. they'll be playing without a full hand of cards until they can gain some moral upper hand. they can't do that with suicide bombers and calls for jihad playing from the mosques.
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
First of all, someone here (not you) was trying to imply that Israel had the moral upper hand in this debacle. That's bull. Israel is occupying land illegally. Just because they are our "ally" does not make them saints, the Saudi's are our allys too. Sharon has done nothing to curb settlement activity, on the contrary, he has done everything in his power to increase settlements under the auspices of "natural growth". They are illegal and hence have no ground for the allowance of any growth. If I was Sharon, and thank god a million times I am not, I would try to gain the moral upper hand. I am not implying that the tactics employed by the Palestinians is what gives them the moral upper hand, suicide bombings and terror tactics in general are discpicable, but their cause does. The Isrealis should take unilateral action. Dismantle all the settlements and withdraw to the 1967 lines. Since many in America seem to think that the Israelis are "just like us" and hence morally superior, let them prove it. This way anything that the Palestinians do will loose them public support as they would have no grounds for further rebellion. Build a huge wall dividing the two, I think they were planning to do that anyway. Get out of their land and let them be. Contrary to what Fox and the Cons. say, I think that most Palestinians would be appeased just by regaining some normalcy and control of their lives, and when they have a secure homeland, would be more concerned about terrorists attacking Israel and putting their country under international scrutiny. Right now they have nothing to loose and have been oppressed for so long that I can see why a lot of them would call for death to Israel. However I don't think the majority of them would hold on to that position if there was a truely independant Palestine and not some "country" controlled by the IDF.
The US is the only country that is staunchly pro-Israel, and that is not because the rest of the world is anti-Semetic, it is because they understand and see that what the Israeli's are doing is wrong. As someone else mentioned, we are brainwashed into supporting Israel or risk being labled anti-Jew. If Israeli's were Christian or Bahai, hell, it they were Muslim and the Palestinians were Jews, their actions would be just as wrong. We have no reason to support Israel except for the fact that pro-Israel lobbys are among the strongest lobbys in the US. This relationship has been nothing but detrimental to us and has just caused more and more people to hate us. Now that we have Iraq and Afghanistan under our control and are supposedly building them into democracys, we don't need Israel as a friendly, democratic regime in the area. Stop the 3.5 billion plus aid we give them for no reason, stop unilateral support for them, and we would do a lot more for our national security as we would be taking away one of the major reasons for half the world hating us. This is not to say the US should just abandon Israel, just treat it like they would any other ally, they are not deserving of any more and I for one am tired of being their bitch. Now to wait for the "you're an anti-Semite" crew.
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
You seem to forget that that land is very holy to Muslims as well. What most Jews don't seem to realize that in the Christian version of the end of the world, Jews will either have to convert or die. I'm not trying to say it eloquently, but that is the jist of it. I think that is pretty racist in itself personally. And since we supposedly always go for the unerdog, why are we supporting Israel? Israel could take on any country on this planet. They use this force to subdugate an entire people and occupy their land. I certainly do not see them as an underdog of any kind.
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
You seem to forget that that land is very holy to Muslims as well. What most Jews don't seem to realize that in the Christian version of the end of the world, Jews will either have to convert or die. I'm not trying to say it eloquently, but that is the jist of it. I think that is pretty racist in itself personally. And since we supposedly always go for the unerdog, why are we supporting Israel? Israel could take on any country on this planet. They use this force to subdugate an entire people and occupy their land. I certainly do not see them as an underdog of any kind.
and jews have some nasty view of christians, what is your point. THe fact is these two groups have common interests and a common enemy. As for Israel being powerful, she didn't get like that overnight. She got like that through experience and hard work. The arabs failed repeatedly to oust her. In most americans view, she is still an underdog. 5 million vs. 300 Milliion sounds like an uneven match to me.
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
You seem to forget that that land is very holy to Muslims as well. What most Jews don't seem to realize that in the Christian version of the end of the world, Jews will either have to convert or die. I'm not trying to say it eloquently, but that is the jist of it. I think that is pretty racist in itself personally. And since we supposedly always go for the unerdog, why are we supporting Israel? Israel could take on any country on this planet. They use this force to subdugate an entire people and occupy their land. I certainly do not see them as an underdog of any kind.
and jews have some nasty view of christians, what is your point. THe fact is these two groups have common interests and a common enemy. As for Israel being powerful, she didn't get like that overnight. She got like that through experience and hard work. The arabs failed repeatedly to oust her. In most americans view, she is still an underdog. 5 million vs. 300 Milliion sounds like an uneven match to me.
Common enemy? Who Arabs? The last time I checked, we were fighting Al Qaueda and the Israeli's were defending an illegal occupation. Just because they are both Arab and Muslim hardly makes them the same enemy. And you're right, she didn't get like that over night, it took billions of dollars of US tax payers money. The only reason Isreal is supported by the US is because of huge contributions to polititians from pro-Israel lobbys and born again Christians who feel they need Israel to be with the Jews so the second coming can occur where the Jews will either be converted or destroyed. I can see why some Jews have some nasty view points of Christians.
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
You seem to forget that that land is very holy to Muslims as well. What most Jews don't seem to realize that in the Christian version of the end of the world, Jews will either have to convert or die. I'm not trying to say it eloquently, but that is the jist of it. I think that is pretty racist in itself personally. And since we supposedly always go for the unerdog, why are we supporting Israel? Israel could take on any country on this planet. They use this force to subdugate an entire people and occupy their land. I certainly do not see them as an underdog of any kind.
and jews have some nasty view of christians, what is your point. THe fact is these two groups have common interests and a common enemy. As for Israel being powerful, she didn't get like that overnight. She got like that through experience and hard work. The arabs failed repeatedly to oust her. In most americans view, she is still an underdog. 5 million vs. 300 Milliion sounds like an uneven match to me.
US has common enemy with Israel? another example of how Israel is trying to influence the US public and opinion with false information. Israel may have many enemy among the arab nations, but not US. Palestina and Syria is not our enemy or our problem until Israel come along and hijack our foreign policy.
Supporting Israel right now is a waste of money and diplomatic capital, since Israel is quite capable of defending herself and they are too self absorb/self righteous to ever listen to us or the world, instead they are using us to shield them against world condemnation and unnecessarily drag us into their own problem.
that aside, on the religious aspect, do you think if a muslim country control that land they would stop any Christians from going to there?
Originally posted by: cpumaster
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: LilBlinbBlahIce
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
You seem to forget that that land is very holy to Muslims as well. What most Jews don't seem to realize that in the Christian version of the end of the world, Jews will either have to convert or die. I'm not trying to say it eloquently, but that is the jist of it. I think that is pretty racist in itself personally. And since we supposedly always go for the unerdog, why are we supporting Israel? Israel could take on any country on this planet. They use this force to subdugate an entire people and occupy their land. I certainly do not see them as an underdog of any kind.
and jews have some nasty view of christians, what is your point. THe fact is these two groups have common interests and a common enemy. As for Israel being powerful, she didn't get like that overnight. She got like that through experience and hard work. The arabs failed repeatedly to oust her. In most americans view, she is still an underdog. 5 million vs. 300 Milliion sounds like an uneven match to me.
US has common enemy with Israel? another example of how Israel is trying to influence the US public and opinion with false information. Israel may have many enemy among the arab nations, but not US. Palestina and Syria is not our enemy or our problem until Israel come along and hijack our foreign policy.
Supporting Israel right now is a waste of money and diplomatic capital, since Israel is quite capable of defending herself and they are too self absorb/self righteous to ever listen to us or the world, instead they are using us to shield them against world condemnation and unnecessarily drag us into their own problem.
that aside, on the religious aspect, do you think if a muslim country control that land they would stop any Christians from going to there?
Exactly, Bethlehem is in Palestinian controlled territory, and I have not heard of anyone being denied entrance to holy sights, hell, even Arafat attends the Christmas prayers.
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
yes, then by your definition i'm a racist. Like i care what you think anyway. You hate arabs so whatever. Our president is as dumb as a rock - he has jews advising (+ neo-conservative morons like yourself) him plus the pro-zionist lobbyist who have made the bush administration their "bitch" of some sort. The arab world has every right to hate america.
LilBlinbBlahIce
has pretty much summed it up.
my turn to insult you: i hope you're really attractive because your mind resembles that of a cow's --- hee hee
Remember what the media has taught you folks - It's not ok to hate a group of people (Especially Jews and Israel) - unless the US is currently having a problem with one of their governments. (tje japanese, the russians, and now the arabs). America thrives on people like Dari. MOonBeAn put it best when he called the american public a herd of conforming sheep.
Until you realize the Media is the fourth branch of the government - and that all of "your" opinions have been created for you, then there is no point in arguing with you. Until then you can continue to dive as deep as you wish up your dictator's a$$ cause there isn't much room for you in this world.
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
yes, then by your definition i'm a racist. Like i care what you think anyway. You hate arabs so whatever. Our president is as dumb as a rock - he has jews advising (+ neo-conservative morons like yourself) him plus the pro-zionist lobbyist who have made the bush administration their "bitch" of some sort. The arab world has every right to hate america.
LilBlinbBlahIce
has pretty much summed it up.
my turn to insult you: i hope you're really attractive because your mind resembles that of a cow's --- hee hee
Remember what the media has taught you folks - It's not ok to hate a group of people (Especially Jews and Israel) - unless the US is currently having a problem with one of their governments. (tje japanese, the russians, and now the arabs). America thrives on people like Dari. MOonBeAn put it best when he called the american public a herd of conforming sheep.
Until you realize the Media is the fourth branch of the government - and that all of "your" opinions have been created for you, then there is no point in arguing with you. Until then you can continue to dive as deep as you wish up your dictator's a$$ cause there isn't much room for you in this world.
well, I see that compared to us, the arab world has it so much better. Only in the arab world do you find religious tolerance. Only there can you get the highest learning. Only there can you understand the art of victory. Only there does freedom ring. You and the other apologists on this board and across the globe are some pathetic losers who are quite afraid of us throwing our weight around. Well, Pers (from Persia???), we're not done yet. And unless you leave your terrorist haven in iran or damascus, you and your other apologists will always be in our crosshairs. We may be conformists, but we're conformists with big guns. While I'm sure you were celebrating in the mountains/caves with the goats bin Laden bought you for Jihad Day on 9/11, rest assure that we are coming your way and we'll change the world in which you live . You can curse and hate all you want, but there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: Dari
Originally posted by: Pers
Originally posted by: cpumaster
yeah I reach that level of intelligence after spending countless hours watching American-made TV program, especially FOX-news network
question, why Israel seemed to have such special place in our foreign policy more so than even some of our close allies? All this time it seemed this relationship only bring problem and even transferring some of their trouble to us... what is the benefit? Is it because they have the birthplace of Christianity? If that the case, we should just take over Bethlehem and Jerusalem and declare it open city under our direct admin.
Why can't we transfer that relationship to other country with better prospect and has more to offer than Israel, ie Canada, or Mexico, or Brazil, or even Egypt seem to be better partner, bigger, more resources, better economic chances and maybe friendlier (it's not like Israel has listened to every US demand) ...
i bet it has something to do with the large number of Jews advising a retarded president on how to handle foreign policy. It wasn't coincidence that possibly one of the stupidest politicians [ever] was nominated to run as the republican candidate (he'd be highly dependent on a mule to make decisions for him). in a way - we're israel's bitch. but with many of you that's ok because you have been brainwashed to think so. oh well.
I bet there are a lot of campaign contributors that have something to gain with our pro-israel stance. i guess it's all speculation - but why the fvck else are we helping them soooo much??
if any of you idiots dare say it's because of WWII - i wish i could piss in your mouths - cause that argument is as stupid as hmmm this dumb country song i heard today (somethign about not being able to forget about our two towers that were knocked down as it somehow justifies war to the typical mullet sporting hick).
your stupidity knows no bound. To say that bush is doing whatever the jews tell him is truly racist in every sense of the word. In case you didn't know, Israel is known as the Holy Land to most Christians. Most Christians identify with Jews more than with suicide bombers and jihadists. The Christians also identify with Israel because they too are waiting for the Messiah and all this fighting doesn't help. Furthermore, traditionally, Americans have always gone for the underdog. For 20 out of her 50 years, Israel had no one but France (giving her arms) by her side as she fought multiple arab states in multiple wars. We came along and replaced the French as her primary seller of advanced weaponry. THe fact is the arab (unsuccessfully) thought they could forcefully drive the jews out of the Levant. Now that they realizd otherwise, they and their apologists are crying foul that the US is helping her. What a bunch of perennial losers.
yes, then by your definition i'm a racist. Like i care what you think anyway. You hate arabs so whatever. Our president is as dumb as a rock - he has jews advising (+ neo-conservative morons like yourself) him plus the pro-zionist lobbyist who have made the bush administration their "bitch" of some sort. The arab world has every right to hate america.
LilBlinbBlahIce
has pretty much summed it up.
my turn to insult you: i hope you're really attractive because your mind resembles that of a cow's --- hee hee
Remember what the media has taught you folks - It's not ok to hate a group of people (Especially Jews and Israel) - unless the US is currently having a problem with one of their governments. (tje japanese, the russians, and now the arabs). America thrives on people like Dari. MOonBeAn put it best when he called the american public a herd of conforming sheep.
Until you realize the Media is the fourth branch of the government - and that all of "your" opinions have been created for you, then there is no point in arguing with you. Until then you can continue to dive as deep as you wish up your dictator's a$$ cause there isn't much room for you in this world.
well, I see that compared to us, the arab world has it so much better. Only in the arab world do you find religious tolerance. Only there can you get the highest learning. Only there can you understand the art of victory. Only there does freedom ring. You and the other apologists on this board and across the globe are some pathetic losers who are quite afraid of us throwing our weight around. Well, Pers (from Persia???), we're not done yet. And unless you leave your terrorist haven in iran or damascus, you and your other apologists will always be in our crosshairs. We may be conformists, but we're conformists with big guns. While I'm sure you were celebrating in the mountains/caves with the goats bin Laden bought you for Jihad Day on 9/11, rest assure that we are coming your way and we'll change the world in which you live . You can curse and hate all you want, but there's not a damn thing you can do about it.
My god, what's the matter with you Dari? You have not provided one proper argument and have only spewed personal attacks and rah rah rah America BS. this thread is about Israel, why don't you go back, read my threads where I challenged you to real, constructive debate, and try to respond without throwing feces around like a big ape.
Listen, the arabs started this mess by attacking Israel 5 times. The United States came into the picture after the THIRD time. Don't blame the arabs' misfortunes on the United States. They have been perennial losers throughout the last century. They created the mess in Palestine (we have discussed this countless times in OT) and they have to live with it. In my opinion, the Israelis deserve the West Bank and Gaza Strip (along with the Golan Heights and Sinai Peninsula) because they fought and won them against aggressors. But since there are 300 million arabs and 5 million israelis (read Israelis, of which there are only about 4 million jews), Israel has to compromise. Somehow, the apologists find a way to blame the united states for everything israel does. why don't you guys look at the source of the problem: arab failure.
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