Boy, 14, Seized in Plot to Open Fire at School

[Chronoshock]

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

for reals, they have no RIGHT telling that mother how to raise her son.

anyway, this happened to the school district right next to the one i went to school at :Q

yes, "they" do have a right. if the way she's raising her son threatens or endangers the livelihood of others, "they" have a right to hold her accountable.

wtf is wrong with you people?

Its sarcasm stemming from the "my neighbor was showing his 6-year-old daughter liveleak videos" thread

 

[UNCjigga]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

You don't have a constitutional right to a drivers' license. Would you like to list all of the states that require you to be 18 to operate a motor vehicle? Hint: It's not most of them.

I meant 18 for a "fully graduated" license--most states let you start driving at 16 I guess!

Fine, driving's a privilege and not a right. I hereby recommend the US government issues every American a machete so we all have "arms" to bear--and passes stricter gun laws!

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

You don't have a constitutional right to a drivers' license. Would you like to list all of the states that require you to be 18 to operate a motor vehicle? Hint: It's not most of them.

I meant 18 for a "fully graduated" license--most states let you start driving at 16 I guess!

Fine, driving's a privilege and not a right. I hereby recommend the US government issues every American a machete so we all have "arms" to bear--and passes stricter gun laws!

Actually my plan is this. Everyone can carry a 1787 type muzzle loader. Constitutional requirement met.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: glutenberg

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

for reals, they have no RIGHT telling that mother how to raise her son.

anyway, this happened to the school district right next to the one i went to school at :Q

I don't know at what point in time people decided that others have no right in telling others how to raise their kids but the fact is that eventually that kid will become a member of the public. The very raising and training of that kid should be the responsibility of the public. You're essentially creating a public good that will eventually interact with the general populace, I'd say the public should have a say in the way a child is raised.

Oh right, it takes a village to raise a child. Pffffft. Socialist.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

You don't have a constitutional right to a drivers' license. Would you like to list all of the states that require you to be 18 to operate a motor vehicle? Hint: It's not most of them.

I meant 18 for a "fully graduated" license--most states let you start driving at 16 I guess!

Fine, driving's a privilege and not a right. I hereby recommend the US government issues every American a machete so we all have "arms" to bear--and passes stricter gun laws!

Actually my plan is this. Everyone can carry a 1787 type muzzle loader. Constitutional requirement met.

How about this, I'll have whatever kind of weapons I want, and you can have whatever you want. And as long as you and I act like responsible human beings, we won't hurt each other. Failure to act responsibly with your weapon, or car, or power tools will result in consequences, but until that point, you can have whatever you want.

Personal responsibility, crazy idea huh?

Any other attempts to regulate arms will be met with refusal to comply. At which point I suppose you'll want to send men with guns after me. The ironing is delicious.

 

[MotF Bane]

Originally posted by: Nebor
Personal responsibility, crazy idea huh?

What is this "personal responsibility" you speak of? Is it something parents should have...

 

[randay]

Usually youre supposed to buy em candy, I guess guns and hand grenades work too though.

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

for reals, they have no RIGHT telling that mother how to raise her son.

anyway, this happened to the school district right next to the one i went to school at :Q

yes, "they" do have a right. if the way she's raising her son threatens or endangers the livelihood of others, "they" have a right to hold her accountable.

wtf is wrong with you people?

Its sarcasm stemming from the "my neighbor was showing his 6-year-old daughter liveleak videos" thread

thank you...thought i was gonna have to spell it out.

 

[Jeff7]

Geez, my parents didn't want me to have a BB gun until I was.....I don't remember, 18?
But then, I didn't see an R-rated movie until sometime around or after 8th grade.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: Jeff7
Geez, my parents didn't want me to have a BB gun until I was.....I don't remember, 18?
But then, I didn't see an R-rated movie until sometime around or after 8th grade.

Heh - I was given a semiauto rifle on my 12th birthday...but movies were screened until my late teens.

 

[alkemyst]

elmo was right, you are ok...don't let anyone tell you differently.

people are fucked up today...entitlement and playing stupid.

I see us going to a more brutal society in the future to negate those that prey on the fears and compassion of others to gain.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: waggy
only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.

the rest are air soft guns.

only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.
Only?

well threats are stupid. but who at t hat age didnt make threats or at least talk shit?


the airguns, knives etc are fine.

hell growing up i had a few diffrent BB, Pelet guns. And have been collecting knives since i was around 10.

As for the cookebook who cares? shit we used to blow shit up all the time.

I agree we you to a point. Today it's not uncommon for a bunch of 15 yo's to take that 'threat' and do it.

I live in Palm Beach County and here there is freaking insanity done by kids each day.

When I was a kid (born on date 1971) we'd blow up stuff and sometimes hurt ourselves but no one else. Today kids are killing people and then their parents go to bat for them saying 'they are just kids'.

I say in this kid goes to 'school', mom jail...no parole.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

Didn't you just say in another thread showing executions to a kid by a parent was not ok?

You really really need to form your stand better.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: pontifex
where the hell do you buy real grenades at anyway? is that even possible for civilians to get them?

There is more ordinance in the world for sale than people usually want to know. No one cares the buyer as long as they have cash or a viable trade.

Making a grenade is really easy though, everything is at any lowes/hd for basic ones which can level most homes. You can up the ante with chem understanding and a supply shop.

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: UNCjigga
Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

I sort of want to agree with you and also disagree. You are all over the place above.

Chryso is also all over the place too...I hope he has kids based on his comments here and other threads.

I don't think guns should be monitored though for the very reason (don tin foil beanie if you must) by signing up for a gun it's very easy for a tyrannical government to pinpoint where the firepower lies. If I were to need a gun I don't think I'd do it legally. Guns even with all the regulation are easy to come by, even the ones you can't buy legally.

America has a big advantage in it's strength that most know alot of us are packing and many of those that aren't can aquire or downright manufacture their own. While it's easy to blow up your enemy when you don't care what falls...it's really really hard to fight a war on your own soil against your own armed people without major collateral damage. Massive collateral damage will make even the most passive cry out 'Arm yourself!'

I say you fuck up with a gun suck up the consequences. Don't assume the gun carrier is a criminal and needs monitoring. As a gun owner, just know you now get applied harsher rules should you mess up with that power.

A car is different as you are using it far more among other people than a gun. You can pull back a gun prior to firing a lot easier than stopping a car you need too.

Either way fail at either and pay a penalty.

 

[gamepad]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

:beer:

 

[alkemyst]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Chronoshock

Originally posted by: eits

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

for reals, they have no RIGHT telling that mother how to raise her son.

anyway, this happened to the school district right next to the one i went to school at :Q

yes, "they" do have a right. if the way she's raising her son threatens or endangers the livelihood of others, "they" have a right to hold her accountable.

wtf is wrong with you people?

Its sarcasm stemming from the "my neighbor was showing his 6-year-old daughter liveleak videos" thread

thank you...thought i was gonna have to spell it out.

You'd may have had more buy in if you gave your punchline away 'school for the clinically insane'.

This thread has some insanity though.

in answer to the driving posts above...younger kids are stealling school buses and other vehicles. I had a friend that was driving at 11, he admits he sucked...wreaked a new IROC on his dad's farmland. By 15 he was driving a Ferrari...still he would have been less damaging if he waited to 16. Some can do just fine at 13/14 probably, but we don't set laws based on the best extremes only the worst.

To me though driving is the worst managed thing with AARP getting their way and bringing everything onto the young driver and not letting themselves be tested.

I am an older driver (36)...I am all for testing me. My great aunt went down to the DL place and turned in her license just for a point mid morning when all the retirees were there renewing them. She knew she couldn't see and react fast enough. Yes, she could be driven places; but that is no excuse for irresponsiblilty.

 

[0roo0roo]

stupid reaction
http://blogs.usatoday.com/onde...0/cleveland-to-pl.html

they are putting in metal detectors and guards at all schools
waste of money, that guards gonna be the first to die in the next shooting.''
the kids in line are nice ducks in a row

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: alkemyst

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

Didn't you just say in another thread showing executions to a kid by a parent was not ok?

You really really need to form your stand better.

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