Boy, 14, Seized in Plot to Open Fire at School

[techs]

http://www.nytimes.com/2007/10...a34747b6831&ei=5087%0A

http://edition.cnn.com/2007/US...enal/?iref=mpstoryview

A 14-year-old boy was arrested Wednesday night after the police received a tip that he was plotting a shooting spree at a high school in this northern suburb of Philadelphia, the authorities said.
The police said that the boy had been planning a ?Columbine style? attack on students at Plymouth Whitemarsh High School and that in searching his home, they had found a 9-millimeter assault rifle, dozens of authentic-looking BB and air guns, and seven hand grenades he was making, four of which were operational

A woman bought guns and bomb-making material to indulge her socially outcast 14-year-old son, a prosecutor said Friday.

"There's a lot of things at play here," Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce Castor Jr. said. "You have a child who is obviously emotionally disturbed and a social outcast, and no doubt the parents feel sorry for him and are indulging him.

Montgomery County District Attorney Bruce Castor Jr. said:
"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."



Ya think?

 

[Mr Incognito]

God damn, we were joking about having to take a test before having a child. Now I'm not kidding as much.

 

[Anubis]

yea i read thie earlier, doesnt really supprise me

 

[dabuddha]

Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
God damn, we were joking about having to take a test before having a child. Now I'm not kidding as much.

I've never joked about that. We definitely need one. Of course, people would whine so much that any brain dead moron like this mom would probably be able to pass it :/

 

[Chryso]

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

 

[waggy]

only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.

the rest are air soft guns.

 

[techs]

Originally posted by: waggy
only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.

the rest are air soft guns.

only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.
Only?

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: waggy
only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.

the rest are air soft guns.

only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.
Only?

well threats are stupid. but who at t hat age didnt make threats or at least talk shit?


the airguns, knives etc are fine.

hell growing up i had a few diffrent BB, Pelet guns. And have been collecting knives since i was around 10.

As for the cookebook who cares? shit we used to blow shit up all the time.

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: waggy
only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.

the rest are air soft guns.

only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.
Only?

I agree. I have an 8" Supressed Colt 9mm AR, and you wouldn't want to be on the recieving end. With 32 round magazines, someone could do a lot of damage in an enclosed environment like a school.

I'm not saying that a 14 year old shouldn't be able to shoot and enjoy one, but it's irresponsible not to keep a weapon like that locked up, especially when your son is seemingly unstable. Should have just gotten him another airsoft gun.

 

[zinfamous]

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: waggy
only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.

the rest are air soft guns.

only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.
Only?

yes, but did the mom buy those or did he get them himself?

the articles i've seen so far do not mention what she bought exactly. if she bought him the airsoft and bb guns, i see no problems.

if she bought the 9mm rifle and grenades (where the hell do you buy real grenades at anyway? is that even possible for civilians to get them?) then we have problems. the 9mm rifle isn't even really that bad. there's no law that says parents can't buy guns for their kids.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: waggy
only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.

the rest are air soft guns.

only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.
Only?

yes, but did the mom buy those or did he get them himself?

the articles i've seen so far do not mention what she bought exactly. if she bought him the airsoft and bb guns, i see no problems.

if she bought the 9mm rifle and grenades (where the hell do you buy real grenades at anyway? is that even possible for civilians to get them?) then we have problems. the 9mm rifle isn't even really that bad. there's no law that says parents can't buy guns for their kids.

one of the articles says she purchased the 9mm Rifle for him at a gun show. The Grenades the built.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: waggy

Originally posted by: pontifex

Originally posted by: techs

Originally posted by: waggy
only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.

the rest are air soft guns.

only things i see that can be problems is the 9mm and grenades.
Only?

yes, but did the mom buy those or did he get them himself?

the articles i've seen so far do not mention what she bought exactly. if she bought him the airsoft and bb guns, i see no problems.

if she bought the 9mm rifle and grenades (where the hell do you buy real grenades at anyway? is that even possible for civilians to get them?) then we have problems. the 9mm rifle isn't even really that bad. there's no law that says parents can't buy guns for their kids.

one of the articles says she purchased the 9mm Rifle for him at a gun show. The Grenades the built.

thanks for the info.

 

[UNCjigga]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

haha you've got to be joking, right? both of you...

seriously... you're joking, right? haha

 

[xdreadpiratedoug]

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

If the kid had killed/injured people, you would be asking, "Why didn't school officials or his parents do anything to prevent this?"

Take your head out of your ass - people had a possibility of being in danger, and they responded to it.

 

[pontifex]

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

you can't buy a rifle until you are 18. you can't buy a handgun until you are 21.
you can use either, before those ages, but they must be purchased and registered to an adult.
they do background checks on you before you can purchase a gun.

your post = worthless.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
God damn, we were joking about having to take a test before having a child. Now I'm not kidding as much.

Good luck enforcing that...

 

[Nebor]

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

History has taught us that gun registration has lead to confiscation 100% of the time. They can find out what kind of guns I have when they come to get them.

There's no need to pass strict gun control laws because one person is a bad parent. There are already child safety laws in regards to having access to firearms. Enforce them.

 

[digiram]

Originally posted by: Mr Incognito
God damn, we were joking about having to take a test before having a child. Now I'm not kidding as much.

QFT

 

[Inspector Jihad]

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

for reals, they have no RIGHT telling that mother how to raise her son.

anyway, this happened to the school district right next to the one i went to school at :Q

 

[eits]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

for reals, they have no RIGHT telling that mother how to raise her son.

anyway, this happened to the school district right next to the one i went to school at :Q

yes, "they" do have a right. if the way she's raising her son threatens or endangers the livelihood of others, "they" have a right to hold her accountable.

wtf is wrong with you people?

 

[glutenberg]

Originally posted by: Inspector Jihad

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

for reals, they have no RIGHT telling that mother how to raise her son.

anyway, this happened to the school district right next to the one i went to school at :Q

I don't know at what point in time people decided that others have no right in telling others how to raise their kids but the fact is that eventually that kid will become a member of the public. The very raising and training of that kid should be the responsibility of the public. You're essentially creating a public good that will eventually interact with the general populace, I'd say the public should have a say in the way a child is raised.

 

[jlee]

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

You don't have a constitutional right to a drivers' license. Would you like to list all of the states that require you to be 18 to operate a motor vehicle? Hint: It's not most of them.

 

[waggy]

Originally posted by: CadetLee

Originally posted by: UNCjigga

Originally posted by: zinfamous

Originally posted by: Chryso

Originally posted by: techs

"This is not the best parenting I've ever seen, obviously, and she has to be held accountable for that."

Where do these people get off telling them how to raise their child?

:thumbsup:

Are you fvcking serious? You shouldn't have to be told "don't buy real guns for your mentally unstable kid", but if you fvck up that bad YOU (the parent) should be held accountable. What your kid does up until he/she is 16-18 is YOUR responsibility whether you like it or not.

I really don't understand the NRA anti gun-control sheep in here. If you need a registration/license to operate a motor vehicle, you should need a registration to own a gun and a license to use it. Pure and simple. But everybody's gotta get all hot and bothered about a Second Amendment that was written so folks could defend against Indian raids and rogue Loyalists with more than just pitchforks.

You need to be 18 before you can drive a car in most states, but I agree that responsible 12 year-olds should be able to go hunting with dad. But that gun Junior's carrying needs to be licensed and registered by his parents first, and his parents need to know that legally they're liable for any harm their child causes when they forget to lock that gun in a cabinet.

You don't have a constitutional right to a drivers' license. Would you like to list all of the states that require you to be 18 to operate a motor vehicle? Hint: It's not most of them.

thats another thing. I think we should be having kids starting to drive at a earler age nto pushin git back (of course only with parents next to them).

i started driving at 14. my mom had major health issues and could not drive. i was able to drive her to the doctor/store/etc and thats it. I would also drive on my families car lots.

i think driving at a early age helped when i turned 16 and could drive alone. i didn't do the crap that many do at 16.