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Originally posted by: ProfJohn
See OP for pics of car!!!!
Bought it at Carmax. Might have paid a little too much on it though, hard to tell because the low millage things throws the price off.
I could have bought a Mini for the same payment, but I really like this car.
Originally posted by: alkemyst
masculine would have been the 350Z...at least now you are just metro and not a chick 🙂
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: alkemyst
masculine would have been the 350Z...at least now you are just metro and not a chick 🙂
I don't know if it's just me, but the 350Z seems girlier to me. It's a disgrace to the Z legacy, at least the G35 doesn't pretend to be a serious sports car.
Compare the 1982 280ZX against a 1982 Corvette .. the Z car was hands-down better
Compare the 1992 300ZX TT against a 1992 Corvette .. the Z car was more than a worthy equal
Compare the 2003 350Z against a 2003 Corvette .. the Zr car is destroyed, and can barely outperform V6 family sedans such as the Accord and Camry.
Compare the 2008 350Z against the 2008 Pontiac G8 .. the Z car again gets it's butt handed to it, by a 4-door saloon no less.
Bleh. At least Nissan got serious with the GT-R. But there's still no $30-$40k sports car from them that can play in the big leagues. Truly the low spot in the epic history of the Z car.
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Bleh. At least Nissan got serious with the GT-R. But there's still no $30-$40k sports car from them that can play in the big leagues. Truly the low spot in the epic history of the Z car.
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: alkemyst
masculine would have been the 350Z...at least now you are just metro and not a chick 🙂
I don't know if it's just me, but the 350Z seems girlier to me. It's a disgrace to the Z legacy, at least the G35 doesn't pretend to be a serious sports car.
Compare the 1982 280ZX against a 1982 Corvette .. the Z car was hands-down better
Compare the 1992 300ZX TT against a 1992 Corvette .. the Z car was more than a worthy equal
Compare the 2003 350Z against a 2003 Corvette .. the Zr car is destroyed, and can barely outperform V6 family sedans such as the Accord and Camry.
Compare the 2008 350Z against the 2008 Pontiac G8 .. the Z car again gets it's butt handed to it, by a 4-door saloon no less.
Bleh. At least Nissan got serious with the GT-R. But there's still no $30-$40k sports car from them that can play in the big leagues. Truly the low spot in the epic history of the Z car.
I don't think your comparisons are fair.
In the early 80's every car sucked, including Vette's. Those were some pathetic cars all around.
What did a 300zx TT cost in 1992, like $40K, that's like $60K now, in fact the car was killed in part because it was too expensive for it's target market. So Nissan wanted to keep the costs down, it's a fact that they could not produce a car to compete with a Vette now for $30K, it's just not possible.
There are many legitimate criticisms that can be made about the 350z, I just think you are judging it a bit unfairly in this particular post.
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: ayabe
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: alkemyst
masculine would have been the 350Z...at least now you are just metro and not a chick 🙂
I don't know if it's just me, but the 350Z seems girlier to me. It's a disgrace to the Z legacy, at least the G35 doesn't pretend to be a serious sports car.
Compare the 1982 280ZX against a 1982 Corvette .. the Z car was hands-down better
Compare the 1992 300ZX TT against a 1992 Corvette .. the Z car was more than a worthy equal
Compare the 2003 350Z against a 2003 Corvette .. the Zr car is destroyed, and can barely outperform V6 family sedans such as the Accord and Camry.
Compare the 2008 350Z against the 2008 Pontiac G8 .. the Z car again gets it's butt handed to it, by a 4-door saloon no less.
Bleh. At least Nissan got serious with the GT-R. But there's still no $30-$40k sports car from them that can play in the big leagues. Truly the low spot in the epic history of the Z car.
I don't think your comparisons are fair.
In the early 80's every car sucked, including Vette's. Those were some pathetic cars all around.
What did a 300zx TT cost in 1992, like $40K, that's like $60K now, in fact the car was killed in part because it was too expensive for it's target market. So Nissan wanted to keep the costs down, it's a fact that they could not produce a car to compete with a Vette now for $30K, it's just not possible.
There are many legitimate criticisms that can be made about the 350z, I just think you are judging it a bit unfairly in this particular post.
Yeah I'm giving it hell, but you have to realize that the Turbo Z's that gave Vettes fits were the high-end versions. You could still buy a base 300Z for a reasonable amount of $$, and still have an excellent car. The 222HP stock hatch cost under $30k, which probably wasn't too far off from the 240HP 1992 Vette pricing.
I just think the 350Z in it's current form should be mid/high $20s, and they should have had a serious performance model for maybe $40k-$45k. Hell, it would still be a good idea.
The Z car was always about showcasing the best of what Nissan/Datsun could do, and have it attainable. Now it seems that they've altogether given up on a performance car for the masses, and have the slug-like 350Z and then the epic godlike GT-R at the other end of the spectrum.
The current situation is dire and almost embarrassing. It would have been the same in the past had Nissan not made the high-performance versions of their Z cars. With current performance from competitors, they should have offered a ~350-400hp version for $40-$45k or so.
It's just like the Mustang GT vs. V6 Mustang. Of course most Mustangs sold are automatic V6s, but the banner Vehicle still exists, and holds the prestige of the brand up considerably. Imagine the utter laughing-stock the Mustang would become if all that you could get were the anemic mid-level/base versions.
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: alkemyst
masculine would have been the 350Z...at least now you are just metro and not a chick 🙂
I don't know if it's just me, but the 350Z seems girlier to me. It's a disgrace to the Z legacy, at least the G35 doesn't pretend to be a serious sports car.
Compare the 1982 280ZX against a 1982 Corvette .. the Z car was hands-down better
Compare the 1992 300ZX TT against a 1992 Corvette .. the Z car was more than a worthy equal
Compare the 2003 350Z against a 2003 Corvette .. the Zr car is destroyed, and can barely outperform V6 family sedans such as the Accord and Camry.
Compare the 2008 350Z against the 2008 Pontiac G8 .. the Z car again gets it's butt handed to it, by a 4-door saloon no less.
Bleh. At least Nissan got serious with the GT-R. But there's still no $30-$40k sports car from them that can play in the big leagues. Truly the low spot in the epic history of the Z car.
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: alkemyst
masculine would have been the 350Z...at least now you are just metro and not a chick 🙂
I don't know if it's just me, but the 350Z seems girlier to me. It's a disgrace to the Z legacy, at least the G35 doesn't pretend to be a serious sports car.
Compare the 1982 280ZX against a 1982 Corvette .. the Z car was hands-down better
Compare the 1992 300ZX TT against a 1992 Corvette .. the Z car was more than a worthy equal
Compare the 2003 350Z against a 2003 Corvette .. the Zr car is destroyed, and can barely outperform V6 family sedans such as the Accord and Camry.
Compare the 2008 350Z against the 2008 Pontiac G8 .. the Z car again gets it's butt handed to it, by a 4-door saloon no less.
Bleh. At least Nissan got serious with the GT-R. But there's still no $30-$40k sports car from them that can play in the big leagues. Truly the low spot in the epic history of the Z car.
Your problem is the 350Z is not intended to be a sports car, it's a GT and more touring than anything else.
I am not sure where you are getting the G8 smokes the 350Z though.
Originally posted by: alkemyst
0-60 doesn't make a car at all...that statement was ignorant at best.
A Porsche Cayenne S Turbo is quicker as well, but will it turn equal track times?
Originally posted by: alkemyst
Like I said though, the Z is not longer a Vette rival. It's moved more into Grand Touring.
Also like many Nissan's it's up to the end user to do some modifications to unleash it's full potential a la their Nismo branding.
They make the car mushy because that's what the demographic that's buying them wants...they are heavy because that same demographic wants tons of crap in the car.