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Boston renames Christmas tree "Holiday tree".

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Let me get this straight. Mr. Falwell objects to the renaming of a PAGAN symbol from Christmas tree to Holiday tree!:disgust::roll:
 
Originally posted by: RBachman
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex
I'm glad we live in a world where there are no more pressing matters to be worried about than what NAME we give to a FVCKING SHRUB!!!!

Just one more reminder of the INFINITE stupidity and pettiness of mankind.

Jason
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Small things add up, it's not petty in the least. Starting small is often the easiest way of going about achieving a larger goal. Did Bush mandate bible classes in public schools? No - it would have caused an uproar. So he started with something small - "ID".
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Yes, and the Christians started their charge to infiltrate and take over the US government in 1863 with "something small" by having "In God we Trust" printed on the half cent coin for a "limited time". Later on, in 1954 they added the words "Under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance, a phrase that had never been there before. Just a small thing, true.

Of course, no one really ever comments about the long running Christian Conspiracy to take over the US government, which was established intentionally as a Secular government by both Secular and Religious men alike, who knew that religion and government don't mix.

Jason
 
Originally posted by: RBachman
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Actions speak louder than words and will tell the truth when words lie.
Bush's actions are NOT those of a Christian.
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No offense, but what makes your interpretation of christianity any more valid than Bush's or anyone else's? To an outsider, these differences in interpretation appear as minor squabbling between likeminded people.
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One measuring stick I use is -

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
 
Originally posted by: Zanix
Originally posted by: cscpianoman
You know I love the Christmas season for several reasons; people are generally kinder to each other, we spend more time with friends and family, we have a bit of fun, we take time to relax and enjoy the snow, we do the things that normally aren't done any other time of the year because we are with friends and family. Those first two are great reasons to keep celebrating Christmas. I buy Christmas trees and I buy presents because it is tradition. When it is Hannukah I will say Happy Hannukah out of respect for the Jews. When it is Boxing Day, I'll say Happy Boxing Day, when it is Secretary's Day, I'll tell my staff "Happy Secretary's Day." There is nothing inherently wrong in saying "Merry Christmas" to someone. Yes, it represents Christ's birth, but it also represents that kindness to others, or that time spent with family. Maybe we all should have respect for Christianity, we have respect for the Jews, the Muslims, the African Americans, and so forth. You don't have to believe in Christmas to say "Merry Christmas," but you do have to have some respect and civility.
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You're pretty idealistic. I think that's good, don't get me wrong. I do relize I'm very cynical.

Christmas for me is a pretty stressful time. There's a few gifts I buy that I sincerly want to give. Things that I really think people will like. Alot of the things though, as the things I receive, are things that are bought and given just because we feel like we have to. I hate that. I think that bit right there takes the sincerity out of the tradition. I like thanksgiving much more in this regard. Heven forbid somebody gets me something and I didn't get them anything. The dark cloud of christmas guilt. Gift cards too... ugh. Getting a gift card is a real pain. To me it kind of says, "Here, I don't pay attention/know you well enough to know what you might want, but I still felt like I had to give you something, so you'll have to do the christmas shopping for yourself." I don't like B&M shopping... ugh. I might be a little claustrophobic though. Ah well, that's how I feel about presents. I've been taking more time to really find gifts that I think people will love, and that's made the stress of shopping and giving better.

My family still recites a passage from the bible (from Matthew) about the birth, even though out of 20 or so of us only 4 still consider themselves Christian. Those four happen to be grandparents now, and I bet with the next generation the religious aspects of our family tradition will fade away. I think this may be a microcosm for the situation the country is going through with the tree in Boston and so on.

My bitter cynicism for this manditory commercial holiday has dissolved over the past couple years. I still think this holiday is far too commerical, but I try now to just ignore that and enjoy the time we've got.

As the pagans and christians assimilated their traditions, I think the different groups in this country are doing the same. How can we not when things change so quickly, and we live so close together? I think this tread is about growing pains.
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See, the trick is to disregard family you don't like. I give gifts to those I care most about, and fvck the rest 😉 You can have Cynicism *and* be giving all at the same time 🙂

Jason
 
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Yes, and the Christians started their charge to infiltrate and take over the US government in 1863 with "something small" by having "In God we Trust" printed on the half cent coin for a "limited time". Later on, in 1954 they added the words "Under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance, a phrase that had never been there before. Just a small thing, true.

Of course, no one really ever comments about the long running Christian Conspiracy to take over the US government, which was established intentionally as a Secular government by both Secular and Religious men alike, who knew that religion and government don't mix.

Jason
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men."

When did that "Christian Conspiracy" start? 😕
 
Originally posted by: Ornery
Originally posted by: DragonMasterAlex

Yes, and the Christians started their charge to infiltrate and take over the US government in 1863 with "something small" by having "In God we Trust" printed on the half cent coin for a "limited time". Later on, in 1954 they added the words "Under God" to the Pledge of Allegiance, a phrase that had never been there before. Just a small thing, true.

Of course, no one really ever comments about the long running Christian Conspiracy to take over the US government, which was established intentionally as a Secular government by both Secular and Religious men alike, who knew that religion and government don't mix.

Jason
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"We hold these truths to be self-evident, that all men are created equal, that they are endowed by their Creator with certain unalienable Rights, that among these are Life, Liberty and the pursuit of Happiness. That to secure these rights, Governments are instituted among Men."

When did that "Christian Conspiracy" start? 😕
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You do know that the framers of the Constitution explicitly used the word Creator and not God so as NOT to favor any one religion. You do know that, right?

 
...which was established intentionally as a Secular government by both Secular and Religious men...

How "Secular" is a "Creator"? Face it, the founding fathers were NOT secular, as much as that rubs you wrong.
 
:music: OH CHRISTMAS TREE, OH CHRISTMAS TREE :music:

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Holiday tree = lame

I suggest those that would change the title of "Christmas tree" to something else get their own damn holiday. Then they can have the Bitch Tree.
 
i hate political correctness.
I take my lessons from Family guy.
What really pisses me off is that people are all for celebrating indiviguality yet can not comment on the difference in people.
What do i know. I'm east european and hate everyone including you...............and you...........you too

By the way, Christmas is ruined.
 
I love Christmas.

Some of the best memories of my entire life. Nothing, but nothing, can beat being a little kid bumping down the stairs so early in the morning it's still dark outside and being awed by the fragrant, glittering, ornament bedecked tree, heaped high underneath with seasonal loot and the presents Daddy helped get you for Mom and Mom helped get you for Dad.

The smell of pine incense burning can still take me right back to childhood, after all these years.

So God bless all you pagans, Christians, atheists, conspiracy theorists, dirt eaters, Nissan fanbois, three-legged wonders, bad motorcycles, paperback writers, street corner philosophers, convenience store queens, chronic under-tippers, orange juice junkies, and under-assistant, west coast promotion men . . . and women.

God bless you one and all!

Merry Fvcking Christmas, FTW!
 
Originally posted by: PELarson
Originally posted by: RBachman
Originally posted by: DAGTA
Actions speak louder than words and will tell the truth when words lie.
Bush's actions are NOT those of a Christian.
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No offense, but what makes your interpretation of christianity any more valid than Bush's or anyone else's? To an outsider, these differences in interpretation appear as minor squabbling between likeminded people.
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One measuring stick I use is -

Titus 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny [him], being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.
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And people who disagree with you can quote a verse which backs up their interpretation. Who's to say who is right and who is wrong?
 
Solution simple: I buy Christmas presents, I don't buy holiday presents! Put it on a big T shirt and wear it where ever you shop. If enough people wear them, the businesses trying to sell merchandise as presents will get the message.
 
Originally posted by: SilentZero
Now if they just rename the "Red Sox" to "We only win once per 100 years because we stink".

GO YANKEES!
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QFT!



And the new name for Dec 25 is <drum roll>

The special winter celebration day that falls between Dec 24 and Dec 26 because we are a bunch of pussies to afraid to offend anyone.

Please make a note of this, and start refering to it as this as soon as possible. Thanks again,

Mr. <Insert PC Idiots Name Here>
 
Originally posted by: Unheard
Originally posted by: SilentZero
Now if they just rename the "Red Sox" to "We only win once per 100 years because we stink".

GO YANKEES!
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QFT!



And the new name for Dec 25 is <drum roll>

The special winter celebration day that falls between Dec 24 and Dec 26 because we are a bunch of pussies to afraid to offend anyone.

Please make a note of this, and start refering to it as this as soon as possible. Thanks again,

Mr. <Insert PC Idiots Name Here>
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Nobody here said they were offended. I only commented that it was a small step forward. Who's the idiot?
 
any tree during the month of december with stuff on it = christmas tree... the end.

it's not a "holiday candle"... it's a "mennorah"

it's not a "springtime rabbit"... it's an "easter bunny"

it's not a "civil union".... it's a "marriage"

just go by what it really is and not a confusing, meaningless version of a the definition
 
Originally posted by: eits
any tree during the month of december with stuff on it = christmas tree... the end.

it's not a "holiday candle"... it's a "mennorah"

it's not a "springtime rabbit"... it's an "easter bunny"

it's not a "civil union".... it's a "marriage"

just go by what it really is and not a confusing, meaningless version of a the definition
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In all fairness, the fundies themselves are the reason the term "civil union" has become popular.
 
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