Boston Bombing -- Who Did It?

[werepossum]

"Raising questions" is a common tactic to say exactly what one wants to say while remaining "honest" to the facts and only the facts. For example, Fox News uses the phrase "raising questions" often to implant anti-Obama/anti-liberal suggestions into people's minds (I occasionally watch the noon show because Megyn Kelly is hot). There must have been focus group testing on this phrase finding it highly effective, it's used far too often in partisan reporting.

Well said. It happens a lot, on both sides of the aisle, and by this time should be fooling no one.

You should go post at Stormfront and convince them that they are voting the wrong way

I highly doubt that anyone is in danger from the "people" at Stormfront. Not unless you go into one's mom's basement and get between him and the Twinkies anyway.

I just came back from a restaurant and there was constant coverage of all things related to the Boston bombing. Since I don't watch TV I did not see any coverage on TV. So is this happening all the time? What about the other stuff?

Many people died in China's quake. Dozens of people get killed in bombings in the MidEast. Etc etc.

I am not diminishing what happened in Boston in any way. It was a horrible thing in every single way. I'm just saying that life has to go on. Reliving memories can often breed hatred and fears.

In the grand scheme of things, humanity needs to realize that the key thing to change is how people think. If we really change, then no more wars, etc. Too bad that won't happen.

Also, please stop calling these killers "religious." They're no more Muslim than George Bush and Dick Cheney are Christian.

Many of these terrorists can quote the entire Quran from memory, and they are specifically murdering to die as martyrs for their religion, and they are supported by large numbers of the Islamic clergy and mosques. To claim they aren't Muslim is simply to deny reality.

 

[zinfamous]

Wow. After his name was dragged through the mud it turns out that they don't have any real evidence against him other than his initials match "KC" and that he worked for the Senator's campaign at one time? I hope he can obtain some sort of compensation for this in a lawsuit.

He was more or less set-up.

It wasn't his initials, it's that the letters were signed off using a phrase that this guy, who apparently is an Elvis Impersonator, constantly uses on his blogs and various other media websites.

In all honesty, any worthwhile investigation would have lead straight to him at the beginning. The corroborating evidence that could not be found involves no way to link ricin to him--any traces of the actual chemical or evidence that he had ever been researching anything related to ricin.

 

[Remobz]

I can't believe how many Muslims still feel that the USA framed these "boys" and its some USA conspiracy.

After all the mounting evidence, how can some Muslims still be in denial? They hate the USA that much?

bloody hell!

 

[Nebor]

I can't believe how many Muslims still feel that the USA framed these "boys" and its some USA conspiracy.

After all the mounting evidence, how can some Muslims still be in denial? They hate the USA that much?

bloody hell!

Most of Muslim society gets it's news via word of mouth (Friday's at the mosque, or from their family\neighbors.) Those people are informed by a very limited Islamic media with a very specific agenda.

The long and short of it is that they're a bunch of backwards savages bent on spreading their stone age lifestyle to the entire world, so you really shouldn't be surprised by anything they do. Unless they like, acknowledged the existence of the state of Israel, I guess that'd be pretty surprising.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

I can't believe how many Muslims still feel that the USA framed these "boys" and its some USA conspiracy.

After all the mounting evidence, how can some Muslims still be in denial? They hate the USA that much?

bloody hell!

Right. The Muslims. Since this thread is a shining example of people not believing it's some grand conspiracy orchestrated with these two as pawns or patsies.

You might want to step outside and look around now and then.

 

[monovillage]

Right. The Muslims. Since this thread is a shining example of people not believing it's some grand conspiracy orchestrated with these two as pawns or patsies.

You might want to step outside and look around now and then.

And you might want to pull your head out of your Canadian ass. This terrorist act was committed by radical Muslims for religious reasons. Too fucking bad if you don't like it.

 

[MomentsofSanity]

And you might want to pull your head out of your Canadian ass. This terrorist act was committed by radical Muslims for religious reasons. Too fucking bad if you don't like it.

You have some serious comprehension issues if you think that's what I said.

Let me spell it out for you. A few Muslims, primarily family members, aren't the only ones running around claiming these two did not do it.

Hopefully that helps you understand more clearly.

 

[Orignal Earl]

I highly doubt that anyone is in danger from the "people" at Stormfront. Not unless you go into one's mom's basement and get between him and the Twinkies anyway.

Anders Behring Breivik posted there and managed to get out of his moms basement.
By the number of posters here at p&n that agree with ABB, would you say some posters here would be worth a look by the FBI?

 

[Orignal Earl]

And you might want to pull your head out of your Canadian ass. This terrorist act was committed by radical Muslims for religious reasons. Too fucking bad if you don't like it.

Our news right now is filled with how Muslims turned in the radical Muslims for their terrorist plot. And all the Muslim groups condemning the attack in the US.
When your right wing pick of week down there finally settles on a motive, we may get somewhere

 

[007ELmO]

Being a muslim born in America (kentucky, hickville to be exact), but not very religious at all, I don't know how to explain how it feels when you have the eyes of 100 non-muslims in a restaurant staring at you. It actually makes you uncomfortable, bringing your laptop in to do some work over lunch/etc. It's OK, I stereotype people on their looks too, but it's different when it seems like everyone is doing it to you (and not just one or two people).

After 9/11 I was verbally harassed. When you are different, growing up it's a cool feeling (in highschool/college) to be one of a kind. Not everyone grows up, though.

 

[Nebor]

Anders Behring Breivik posted there and managed to get out of his moms basement.
By the number of posters here at p&n that agree with ABB, would you say some posters here would be worth a look by the FBI?

The FBI is too busy trying to monitor all the Muslims.

 

[poohbear]

Being a muslim born in America (kentucky, hickville to be exact), but not very religious at all, I don't know how to explain how it feels when you have the eyes of 100 non-muslims in a restaurant staring at you. It actually makes you uncomfortable, bringing your laptop in to do some work over lunch/etc. It's OK, I stereotype people on their looks too, but it's different when it seems like everyone is doing it to you (and not just one or two people).

After 9/11 I was verbally harassed. When you are different, growing up it's a cool feeling (in highschool/college) to be one of a kind. Not everyone grows up, though.

How exactly do u look muslim? U mean u look middle eastern? How do they know ure not hispanic cause they both look similar. Do u mean u have brown skin? How do they know ure not Indian? There are over a billion hindu Indians. Unless ur sporting a thick beard & a muslim skull cap?

The pathetic thing is in the past year there were 16,000 homicides in the USA, thats the avg every year for the past 10 years! yet 3 of them in all those 10 years & all 160,000 homicides were from muslim terrorism! And still the avg American still has crazy prejudices about muslims! Terrorism really DOES work!

 

[monovillage]

Our news right now is filled with how Muslims turned in the radical Muslims for their terrorist plot. And all the Muslim groups condemning the attack in the US.
When your right wing pick of week down there finally settles on a motive, we may get somewhere

Then you must be watching Sun News, not CBC.

 

[Oyeve]

Being a muslim born in America (kentucky, hickville to be exact), but not very religious at all, I don't know how to explain how it feels when you have the eyes of 100 non-muslims in a restaurant staring at you. It actually makes you uncomfortable, bringing your laptop in to do some work over lunch/etc. It's OK, I stereotype people on their looks too, but it's different when it seems like everyone is doing it to you (and not just one or two people).

After 9/11 I was verbally harassed. When you are different, growing up it's a cool feeling (in highschool/college) to be one of a kind. Not everyone grows up, though.

I hear ya. I am 25% indonesian, 25% italian, 25% dutch and 25% french, so my skin is olive/light brown. My son looks like me. We both have full goatees. We always get double screened at airports. Once when my son and I went to florida we passed security, sat for a bit at the boarding lounge and when we were about to enter the plane they pulled us aside and went through our carry-on. My son, who was around ten at the time (hes 18 now) asked me why the other people were going in and not us and I said loudly, because they are white. True story. I dont make much of it, but it does suck that white americans think this way.

 

[monovillage]

I hear ya. I am 25% indonesian, 25% italian, 25% dutch and 25% french, so my skin is olive/light brown. My son looks like me. We both have full goatees. We always get double screened at airports. Once when my son and I went to florida we passed security, sat for a bit at the boarding lounge and when we were about to enter the plane they pulled us aside and went through our carry-on. My son, who was around ten at the time (hes 18 now) asked me why the other people were going in and not us and I said loudly, because they are white. True story. I dont make much of it, but it does suck that white americans think this way.

So because the Feds and the TSA routinely pull this kind of crap on all Americans it's somehow "white americans" fault?

My Mother-in-law had the same crap pulled on her by the TSA after 9-11, she was 85 years old and weighed 82 pounds.

 

[Atomic Playboy]

I hear ya. I am 25% indonesian, 25% italian, 25% dutch and 25% french, so my skin is olive/light brown. My son looks like me. We both have full goatees. We always get double screened at airports. Once when my son and I went to florida we passed security, sat for a bit at the boarding lounge and when we were about to enter the plane they pulled us aside and went through our carry-on. My son, who was around ten at the time (hes 18 now) asked me why the other people were going in and not us and I said loudly, because they are white. True story. I dont make much of it, but it does suck that white americans think this way.

Hey, we have it hard too. If I spend more than three minutes in direct sunlight, I get sunburned. Do you know how much it sucks to get slathered with greasy sunscreen every few hours every single day in the summer? It's SHIT! Every one of my shirts ends up smelling like coconut and chemicals, and I invariably end up sweating some of it into my eyes, so I rock around all summer looking like a drug-crazed, half-burnt grease zombie with bloodshot eyes and an overpowering aroma of piña coladas and sadness.

I'm not trying to make light of racism; that shit ain't cool. But there are perks to not being blindingly white too.

 

[007ELmO]

My dad gets pulled everytime at the airport, last name - color of skin - or what. It's all statistic probability anyway, and I don't care who gets checked or who doesn't, but his chance is 100%, lol.

I enjoy being me, everyone should, but people do still judge others by their skin color - or they have preconceived notions. It's still human.

 

[Remobz]

You have some serious comprehension issues if you think that's what I said.

Let me spell it out for you. A few Muslims, primarily family members, aren't the only ones running around claiming these two did not do it.

Hopefully that helps you understand more clearly.

Yes, I know others including Jews are bashing Americans right now.

But I am talking about the radical Muslims since they are the ones that appears to have done the terrorist act. I am talking about their reactions in PARTICULAR as compared to OTHERS.

Where I am at right now, I have not heard any Muslim publicly condemn the bombings (although I am sure some do condemn the bombings) and many feel that its some sort of frame up by the Americans.


What position do you take about the bombings as of this day? Frame up? other opinion?

 

[Orignal Earl]

Then you must be watching Sun News, not CBC.

Sun News-

"This does not belong in Islam," Wafi Bouassida, the president of the Muslim Association of the University of Sherbrooke, said Tuesday.

http://www.sunnewsnetwork.ca/sunnews/canada/archives/2013/04/20130423-173651.html

CBC-

Toronto Imam Yusuf Badat spoke to CBC's Power and Politics about a meeting the RCMP had with Muslim community concerning the foiled plot.

Outlining how the Canadian Muslim community has been working with authorities, Badat said: "Ever since 9/11, we have been building these types of relationships with the government agencies and we've been inviting them to our mosques. And we've been informing and educating our communities that if you see any form of suspicious activities, always cooperate with the authorities and work together for the safety of the general Canadian public."

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2013/04/23/f-via-plot-analysis.html

 

[Remobz]

My dad gets pulled everytime at the airport, last name - color of skin - or what. It's all statistic probability anyway, and I don't care who gets checked or who doesn't, but his chance is 100%, lol.

I enjoy being me, everyone should, but people do still judge others by their skin color - or they have preconceived notions. It's still human.

Agreed.

I can cite many examples of that as well. Humans are humans indeed.

Oh and many other people from other ethnic groups and people of mixed ethnic backgrounds who are not Muslims but might look it to some ignorant redneck suffer as well

 

[MomentsofSanity]

Yes, I know others including Jews are bashing Americans right now.

But I am talking about the radical Muslims since they are the ones that appears to have done the terrorist act. I am talking about their reactions in PARTICULAR as compared to OTHERS.

Where I am at right now, I have not heard any Muslim publicly condemn the bombings (although I am sure some do condemn the bombings) and many feel that its some sort of frame up by the Americans.


What position do you take about the bombings as of this day? Frame up? other opinion?

I don't really take a position. I look at evidence but I am believer of Occam's razor and right now everything points to these two acting alone and taking these actions upon themselves for whatever twisted logic they believed they arrived at.

That being said I still go back to your original statement of you can't believe how many Muslims are denying these two did it and I honestly ask, how many are? Other than their immediate family? I really haven't seen anything other than condemntaion from every Islamic group that exists within the United States.

And how, if any are, is that any different than the white christian whack jobs who are claiming it's some grand government conspiracy?

 

[Nebor]

How exactly do u look muslim? U mean u look middle eastern? How do they know ure not hispanic cause they both look similar. Do u mean u have brown skin? How do they know ure not Indian? There are over a billion hindu Indians. Unless ur sporting a thick beard & a muslim skull cap?

The pathetic thing is in the past year there were 16,000 homicides in the USA, thats the avg every year for the past 10 years! yet 3 of them in all those 10 years & all 160,000 homicides were from muslim terrorism! And still the avg American still has crazy prejudices about muslims! Terrorism really DOES work!

Americans aren't unreasonable; we're prejudiced against black people too.

 

[Nebor]

I hear ya. I am 25% indonesian, 25% italian, 25% dutch and 25% french, so my skin is olive/light brown. My son looks like me. We both have full goatees. We always get double screened at airports. Once when my son and I went to florida we passed security, sat for a bit at the boarding lounge and when we were about to enter the plane they pulled us aside and went through our carry-on. My son, who was around ten at the time (hes 18 now) asked me why the other people were going in and not us and I said loudly, because they are white. True story. I dont make much of it, but it does suck that white americans think this way.

Would you feel more comfortable flying if they searched all the white people extensively, but let all of the "brown" people walk right onto the flight?

 

[Braznor]

I won't feel offended if I get profiled for questioning. I'm brown and I troll post on AT. What else would a law officer be prejudiced against? Give the poor TSA a break, folks!

 

[bshole]

Now we have a RWE just arrested who appeared on the verge of a terror attack. This nutter was stockpiling explosives.

One law enforcement official said the suspect in the case had anti-government views and called the case a domestic terrorism investigation.

http://www.cnn.com/2013/05/06/us/minnesota-explosives-arrest/index.html