Boss bro' in shootout with police *apparently cops shot him in back*

[Ladies Man]

Drop the gun/knife/whatever it may be means drop it... if you are to drunk, high, or just retarded you deserve to be shot.

 

[VTboy]

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowski

Originally posted by: Nitemare

Originally posted by: FallenHero
If he pointed it at the police, im not surprise he was shot.

He should be lucky he's alive.

If I were a cop and someone was strung out on drugs waving a gun around and not dropping it...I'm thinking headshot

headshot is the wrong answer my friend. In the real world you take body shots. The body is easier to hit than a head, and you are supposed to detain or subdue not kill outright.

Actually cops are taught to aim for the heart. So they are trained to kill not subdue.

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: VTboy

Originally posted by: JeffreyLebowskiheadshot is the wrong answer my friend. In the real world you take body shots. The body is easier to hit than a head, and you are supposed to detain or subdue not kill outright.

Actually cops are taught to aim for the heart. So they are trained to kill not subdue.

Not quite. Cops are taught to aim for center mass of the target presented. It isnt the same.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: Dead Parrot Sketch

Just about every addict/drunk would say exactly the same thing at some point in their past; keep it up until your 30 and let us know how you and your friends are doing.

I don't really mean that you should. But someday you and your friends will discover you're just as mortal as every other human being.

Thankfully I'm not like "just about every addict/drunk." I don't care who you compare me to... I'm human but can use things responsibly because I know a lot about what I choose to partake in.

Originally posted by: PELarson

Why because I care more for the officer's psychological well being than I do that some F**K WIT took drugs and has ruined his life(luckily only his life) and caused his family and friends grief and agrivation.

People are never going to stop taking drugs, plain and simple. But they are illegal (unregulated) and then things like this happen. I guarantee it wasn't pure MDMA that made him do that.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: Phocas
Jeebus, glad i never tried those kinds of things when i was younger.

Yeah, we were smarter than this dumb sh!t. Take drugs suffer the consequences. There is more to life than artificial highs.

I don't see this as a foreseeable consequence of taking ecstasy. I am constantly amazed by the holier-than-thou attitude of people here - you must have led some REALLY boring youths.

You must be a profoundly boring person if you have to take drugs to have a good time.

That isn't the point, and that isn't how it works.

There's nothing wrong with casual drug use. Alcohol, cigarettes, cocaine, I don't care(as long as it doesen't make you go nuts, like PCP). The problem is that many(most?) can't keep it under control.

Plus, PCP is some nasty sh!t. Something like that would never happen if it was just X.

LOL, show me a casual cocaine user. Casual cigarette smokers are around, but there aren't many. Point is that this stuff IS addicting. Whether it be physically addicting or psycologically addicting, it is addicting. My friend smokes cigs because he hung around people who did. When he started, it was just casually when he was around those friends. Now it's just an addiction. X is also very psycologically addicting. People get addicted to the feelings and the freedom. It happens a lot. And lacing X is not uncommon.

I know many casual coke users, and I've been known to blow a bit here and there now and again. I also know a few people who have let their coke problems spiral out of control, just like every other drug.

 

[Dufman]

his name is zack morris

 

[opticalmace]

With reference to some of the posts on this thread, yes it is possible to have responsible drug use.
Not everyone is an insane addict.

However, many people do not know their limits and are often irrational. Or unsafe.
Or just plain inexperienced.

I can't speak for the harder drugs, though...I've never done coke and do not plan to.

 

[Eli]

Originally posted by: XZeroII

Originally posted by: Eli

Originally posted by: Descartes

Originally posted by: Don_Vito

Originally posted by: PanzerIV

Originally posted by: Phocas
Jeebus, glad i never tried those kinds of things when i was younger.

Yeah, we were smarter than this dumb sh!t. Take drugs suffer the consequences. There is more to life than artificial highs.

I don't see this as a foreseeable consequence of taking ecstasy. I am constantly amazed by the holier-than-thou attitude of people here - you must have led some REALLY boring youths.

You must be a profoundly boring person if you have to take drugs to have a good time.

That isn't the point, and that isn't how it works.

There's nothing wrong with casual drug use. Alcohol, cigarettes, cocaine, I don't care(as long as it doesen't make you go nuts, like PCP). The problem is that many(most?) can't keep it under control.

Plus, PCP is some nasty sh!t. Something like that would never happen if it was just X.

LOL, show me a casual cocaine user. Casual cigarette smokers are around, but there aren't many. Point is that this stuff IS addicting. Whether it be physically addicting or psycologically addicting, it is addicting. My friend smokes cigs because he hung around people who did. When he started, it was just casually when he was around those friends. Now it's just an addiction. X is also very psycologically addicting. People get addicted to the feelings and the freedom. It happens a lot. And lacing X is not uncommon.

Yeah. I know. And I agree.

I was just trying to shoot down his notion that you must be "incredibly boring" if you "need" to take drugs to have a "good time".

 

[Thump553]

It may sound heartless, but at least the person who took the risk here suffered most of the consequences. I say most because I'm sure the officer who took the shot is anguishing over the results.

 

[Nitemare]

Originally posted by: opticalmace
With reference to some of the posts on this thread, yes it is possible to have responsible drug use.
Not everyone is an insane addict.

However, many people do not know their limits and are often irrational. Or unsafe.
Or just plain inexperienced.

I can't speak for the harder drugs, though...I've never done coke and do not plan to.

There is a big difference from Mary Jane to PCP and X

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: rh71

Wow I don't know how you can get around the fact that you are suggesting that by taking drugs (or any known risky behavior), our youths would've been more exciting. What do you know about anyone's youths ?

Okay, I'll bite on this. I never at any time advocated drug use, but I respectfully think risk-taking is part of growing up, and that an absence of it does indeed make one's youth more boring. I have seen terribly judgmental attitudes here time and again, and this is just one example. People are taking the attitude that, by taking ecstasy, this guy should reasonably have predicted something awful would happen, and I just see that as silly. In my experience, the people who are that harshly judgmental tend to have led sheltered lives. I am not pro-drugs in any form or fashion.

 

[rubix]

if you do or tried drugs, i hate you. if you never tried drugs, i still probably hate you.

 

[ReiAyanami]

imagine if this stuff was legalized


suicide bombers often use illicit drugs, it makes them feel invincible right before they go collect their 72 raisins

40-50 years ago rebels in SE asia would coke up and rush our soldiers and try to ambush them with machetes, they didn't have guns they just ran straight up with a machete. even though they were filled with a dozen 9mm's they kept coming because the coke and such made them invincible. that's why we switched over to colt .45's. one shot and knocked them down and out coke or no coke.

your boss's brother should: A) not have done drugs
B) not own a gun
C) both

hope he doesn't sue the police, cuz its cases like these that cause TASR's stock to shoot up 4000%.

 

[Don Vito Corleone]

Originally posted by: rubix
if you do or tried drugs, i hate you. if you never tried drugs, i still probably hate you.

Okay, at least that's consistency . . .

 

[JoeKing]

Many of our soldiers and pilots take a form of speed for extremly long missions.

just adding fuel to the fire.

 

[GonzoCircus]

There is such a thing as responsible recreational drug use. This obviously does not fit into that category. Taking a large amount of hallucinagenic drugs, especially when you dont know what exactly what is in them, and having access to a firearm is never a good idea.

 

[MAME]

Originally posted by: RagingBITCH
http://www.katc.com/

Scroll down to "19 year old college student shot by Lafayette police officers"

From what my boss' wife is telling me, (my boss is still in LA - this story is different from the video) apparently he had taken 2 hits of X. He had gone home and started hullicinating - he thought he saw 3 guys raping a woman in front of his house. Then after they were done the 3 guys came into the house. Then he started shooting at the "attackers" and firing randomly. He then called the police.

Police came, he was still tripping. My boss' wife said he never fired upon police but was waving the gun around. There was a standoff. Then she said at 8 in the morning SWAT came in and shot him. She claims he never shot at them (unlike the video) - she said the Sheriff among other witnesses said there was no shots fired by him when they stormed the house. (That is in dispute of course)

Right now he's paralyzed from the waist down but in good spirits overall. Out on $1.2 million bond.

This is just nuts...my boss' wife's sister said the X probably was tainted with PCP or something along those lines in order for him to trip out so bad. I'm still kind of in shock at the whole thing.

Good, he got what he deserved. Hopefully he'll learn.

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
imagine if this stuff was legalized


suicide bombers often use illicit drugs, it makes them feel invincible right before they go collect their 72 raisins

40-50 years ago rebels in SE asia would coke up and rush our soldiers and try to ambush them with machetes, they didn't have guns they just ran straight up with a machete. even though they were filled with a dozen 9mm's they kept coming because the coke and such made them invincible. that's why we switched over to colt .45's. one shot and knocked them down and out coke or no coke.

your boss's brother should: A) not have done drugs
B) not own a gun
C) both

hope he doesn't sue the police, cuz its cases like these that cause TASR's stock to shoot up 4000%.

So what you're saying is if drugs were legalized, people would get all hopped up on crack-cocaine and rush the police with machettes or guns or something because they were invincible?

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: clamum

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
imagine if this stuff was legalized


suicide bombers often use illicit drugs, it makes them feel invincible right before they go collect their 72 raisins

40-50 years ago rebels in SE asia would coke up and rush our soldiers and try to ambush them with machetes, they didn't have guns they just ran straight up with a machete. even though they were filled with a dozen 9mm's they kept coming because the coke and such made them invincible. that's why we switched over to colt .45's. one shot and knocked them down and out coke or no coke.

your boss's brother should: A) not have done drugs
B) not own a gun
C) both

hope he doesn't sue the police, cuz its cases like these that cause TASR's stock to shoot up 4000%.

So what you're saying is if drugs were legalized, people would get all hopped up on crack-cocaine and rush the police with machettes or guns or something because they were invincible?

That's what I got too, I dunno, it sounds pretty logical to me...

 

[Mill]

Don_Vito, Ecstasy is closely related to methamphetamine.

 

[mugs]

I don't care what he was using or what it was laced with or anything like that. I want to know why it matters if he fired at the police or not. Why should they have to wait until it's too late? Why can't they protect themselves when their lives are in danger? The family of some low-life drug dealer is suing a town near me for $1 BILLION because the SWAT team killed the drug dealer in a raid because he had a gun. Un-freaking-believable.

2000 posts.

 

[tweakmm]

Originally posted by: Mill
Don_Vito, Ecstasy is closely related to methamphetamine.

No one on MDMA is going to be picking up a gun and shooting it unless they think it is filled with magical bullets of love

 

[IGBT]

60 min.did a segment on X a few years ago that documented brain damage in first time users...

 

[clamum]

Originally posted by: IGBT
60 min.did a segment on X a few years ago that documented brain damage in first time users...

Bahahahaha 60 Minutes...

Anyways. Brain damage in first time users hey? What was the dosage?

 

[Mookow]

Originally posted by: ReiAyanami
imagine if this stuff was legalized

suicide bombers often use illicit drugs, it makes them feel invincible right before they go collect their 72 raisins

40-50 years ago rebels in SE asia would coke up and rush our soldiers and try to ambush them with machetes, they didn't have guns they just ran straight up with a machete. even though they were filled with a dozen 9mm's they kept coming because the coke and such made them invincible. that's why we switched over to colt .45's. one shot and knocked them down and out coke or no coke.

your boss's brother should: A) not have done drugs
B) not own a gun
C) both

hope he doesn't sue the police, cuz its cases like these that cause TASR's stock to shoot up 4000%.

The incidents you are referring to occurred roughly around the start of the 20th century, it involved (pricipally) Moro tribesmen of the Philippines engaging US servicemen, and we switched from the 38 revolver to the Colt 1911 firing 45 ACP rounds. The usual drug used was opium, IIRC. Oh, and they pre-wrapped themselves to form a rough full body tourniquet, made them last a little longer. But you got the general idea.

And technically, if this was legalized, since he probably wasnt looking to mix drugs, he wouldnt have gotten any PCP with his X, and he would have been fine.