born gay or turn gay?

[Tab]

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Tab
I'd say a combonation of both, but in reality I don't think it actually matters. It's none of your damn buissness if someone decides to be gay or not.

How do you know what his business is? I see nothing wrong with posting the question except that it has probably already been beaten to death.

I have no problem with OP discussing how we get our sexsual preference, I just want to make clear even if someone does decide they want to be gay, why should it matter to me or anyone else?

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: cKGunslinger

When's the last time you heard of any Bush-backed attempt to "ban" same-sex marriage?

I'll tell you when - last year, election time. Bush and his admin couldn't care less about same-sex marriage or the ban thereof, but because enough of the voting public did at the time, he took a stance on it and pushed it to the front-burner.

And what does that make him? A pandering politician, just like the rest of them, nothing more.

I guess I could agree with that, but that doesn't mean that before that Bush was gay for gay marriage? I highly doubt it...

Tell me, who's supporting the fundies who beileve that homosexsuals are destroying the sancity of marriage?

George Bush, at least he was...

He supports the "fundies" because they support him. If Bush had suddenly decided to support "free-thinking, liberal ideas that champion diversity," do you think that all the "liberal" voters would have suddenly decided to vote for him over Kerry? Of course not. Once you start down a political path, you pretty much have to continue down it to maintain your supporters. Changing will only lose you votes; rarely will you gain any.

So yeah, Bush may not personally be for same-sex marriage, but I'd guarantee you that he's not against as much as he played up to it during election time. Like Darkhawk mentioned, it's just a wedge issue that he jumped on for maximum support.

I guess I'll have to agree with you, even though I am at a poor advantage. I never got into politics until the 2004 election, so I don't know the main issuses that George and Gore debated over.

 

[Forsythe]

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Tab
I'd say a combonation of both, but in reality I don't think it actually matters. It's none of your damn buissness if someone decides to be gay or not.

How do you know what his business is? I see nothing wrong with posting the question except that it has probably already been beaten to death.

He's (i assume) not talking about the OP, but in general, why does anyone care what the reason is for people turning gay?
They're gay, get over it.

 

[shrumpage]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: shrumpage

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: ahurtt
Not P&N. Try off topic.

George Bush disagrees, he alone has made the issuse of homosexsuality a huge political issuse. In effort for americans to focus on gays getting married rather than things that are actually important.

Try again, G. Bushe didn't bring the issue forward, advocates for same-sex marriage did.

BTW there shoudl be a third option, "combination of both."

Ha! Yes, the advocates of same sex marriage MADE George Bush want to completely ban gay marriage!

You can at least the terminalogy right, its same-sex marriage. This wasn't an issue in till it was brought forth by advocates of same-sex marriage sought to change marriage.

 

[HBalzer]

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Tab
I'd say a combonation of both, but in reality I don't think it actually matters. It's none of your damn buissness if someone decides to be gay or not.

How do you know what his business is? I see nothing wrong with posting the question except that it has probably already been beaten to death.

He's (i assume) not talking about the OP, but in general, why does anyone care what the reason is for people turning gay?
They're gay, get over it.

So the question is do most gay people like being gay? If not then a solution to gayety might be a noble quest.

 

[Tab]

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Tab
I'd say a combonation of both, but in reality I don't think it actually matters. It's none of your damn buissness if someone decides to be gay or not.

How do you know what his business is? I see nothing wrong with posting the question except that it has probably already been beaten to death.

He's (i assume) not talking about the OP, but in general, why does anyone care what the reason is for people turning gay?
They're gay, get over it.

So the question is do most gay people like being gay? If not then a solution to gayety might be a noble quest.

I doubt it, who would want to be gay and live in a world where even the most "free" countries considers them to be 2nd rate citizens...

 

[bamacre]

Originally posted by: Tab

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: HBalzer

Originally posted by: Forsythe

Originally posted by: Tab
I'd say a combonation of both, but in reality I don't think it actually matters. It's none of your damn buissness if someone decides to be gay or not.

How do you know what his business is? I see nothing wrong with posting the question except that it has probably already been beaten to death.

He's (i assume) not talking about the OP, but in general, why does anyone care what the reason is for people turning gay?
They're gay, get over it.

So the question is do most gay people like being gay? If not then a solution to gayety might be a noble quest.

I doubt it, who would want to be gay and live in a world where even the most "free" countries considers them to be 2nd rate citizens...

2nd rate citizens? My God, the whining, please God, make them stop whining.

 

[mOeeOm]

Originally posted by: armatron
are people born gay or do they turn gay through social/life experiences?

edit:
if you think it is sometimes both; pick which one you would think to be the 'deciding' factor or trend...

Turn, if they are born gay, how do you explain those people who are straight for 20-40 years and then decide all of a sudden they are gay...why were they straight before and liked it that way? Something happend to make them gay

While we're on it, can someone who is gay be turned straight? I say Yes.

Discuss.