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Born gay or can you turn gay

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Originally posted by: Blain
I can't believe the Weed names thread got locked, while this one hasn't. :roll:
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Because this is a serious, with certain exceptions, psychologocal discussion about ramifications of the human psyche and society in general. Trying to figure out another way to come up with a word for Dope is retarded.

Not to mention Drugs are illegal and being gay isn't illegal.
 
Originally posted by: Perry404
Has anyone ever noticed the high percentage of male homosexuals that were abused by their fathers either physically or emotionally? All opinions aside i could never ignore that fact. It seems like nearly every gay man i ever met(of those who truly feel they grew up gay) were atleast severely emotionally abused by their father.
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And I submit that they became gay because of the abuse, not that the abuse was because they were gay.
 
Originally posted by: Perry404
Has anyone ever noticed the high percentage of male homosexuals that were abused by their fathers either physically or emotionally? All opinions aside i could never ignore that fact. It seems like nearly every gay man i ever met(of those who truly feel they grew up gay) were atleast severely emotionally abused by their father.
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Please link us up with "such high percentage".
 
Originally posted by: feelingshorter
Originally posted by: Perry404
Has anyone ever noticed the high percentage of male homosexuals that were abused by their fathers either physically or emotionally? All opinions aside i could never ignore that fact. It seems like nearly every gay man i ever met(of those who truly feel they grew up gay) were atleast severely emotionally abused by their father.
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Please link us up with "such high percentage".
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I can't. I'm speaking just of the gay men that i've met in my lifetime.
 
Originally posted by: Perry404
Has anyone ever noticed the high percentage of male homosexuals that were abused by their fathers either physically or emotionally? All opinions aside i could never ignore that fact. It seems like nearly every gay man i ever met(of those who truly feel they grew up gay) were atleast severely emotionally abused by their father.
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no, I haven't noticed that. none of my gay male friends were sexually abused by their fathers. most of them have reasonable, or close, relationships with their parents including their fathers. as for the actual research published in peer reviewed, respected scientific journals, there is no evidence that gay males or lesbians are more likely to have been sexually abused than heterosexual people.
 
Originally posted by: Gooberlx2
I wouldn't say that anyone chooses to be gay in the sense of: "Hey I'm going to be gay from now on!" However certain traumatic/life changing events (being molested as a child/teen, etc...) can certainly change the course for someone who would otherwise have grown up straight. In that case it's not really a choice, but rather a "rewiring"...sorta...of the persons thought process.
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what is your evidence for this? Please refer to the peer reviewed scientific journals containing studies indicating that childhood abuse has any effect, whatsoever, on adult sexual orientation. In fact, such studies don't exist. There is no evidence that any kind of abuse experienced in childhood is associated with a particular sexual orientation in adulthood.

 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Perry404
Has anyone ever noticed the high percentage of male homosexuals that were abused by their fathers either physically or emotionally? All opinions aside i could never ignore that fact. It seems like nearly every gay man i ever met(of those who truly feel they grew up gay) were atleast severely emotionally abused by their father.
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no, I haven't noticed that. none of my gay male friends were sexually abused by their fathers. most of them have reasonable, or close, relationships with their parents including their fathers. as for the actual research published in peer reviewed, respected scientific journals, there is no evidence that gay males or lesbians are more likely to have been sexually abused than heterosexual people.
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I didn't mean sexually abused but mainly emotionally. If you have seen some statistics i'd certainly like to see them as i've always wondered about this. I can't imagine why my experience would be so drastically different than anyone elses.
 
Originally posted by: aidanjm
Originally posted by: Perry404
Has anyone ever noticed the high percentage of male homosexuals that were abused by their fathers either physically or emotionally? All opinions aside i could never ignore that fact. It seems like nearly every gay man i ever met(of those who truly feel they grew up gay) were atleast severely emotionally abused by their father.
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no, I haven't noticed that. none of my gay male friends were sexually abused by their fathers. most of them have reasonable, or close, relationships with their parents including their fathers. as for the actual research published in peer reviewed, respected scientific journals, there is no evidence that gay males or lesbians are more likely to have been sexually abused than heterosexual people.
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Poster made no mention of sexual abuse, just abuse. There's a big difference. Intimidation, general meanness, insensitivity, bullying, coersion and other forms of manipulation, unrealistic expectations foisted on a youngster, etc., not to mention outright violence - there are many many kinds of abuse that wouldn't be considered sexual abuse but they can be quite devastating to a young, impressionable mind.

 
Originally posted by: Promethply
We are all 'hardwired' to be either gay, hetero, or somewhere in between.
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Why would you think that? I'm not saying it's wrong, but I can't think of any reason to think it's true. Does anyone know of studies made of identical twins who were separated at birth to see if they have identical sexual proclivities? That's the only evidence I can imagine on this score.

 
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