Borderlands 2 GPU/CPU benchmarks [TechSpot/HardOCP/Others]

[SirPauly]

What's the point of already posting when the feature isn't officially implemented or investigated yet?

Because it is straight from the developer's mouth and is new information.

 

[railven]

What's the point about already complaining when the feature isn't officially implemented or investigated yet?

Who said I was complaining? I was merely asking if it was a good use of their already limited resources. I don't even own the game and stated my opinion is properly pointless because of that.

Last news I heard from the TSW team is they pretty much laid of their team and only recently hired back a handful for content releases.

I guess PhysX is more important than fixing the bugs. Heck, I just checked my E-Mail and I guess the game was 50% off this weekend.

 

[SirPauly]

Curious to see what the developers may offer. It's good to see more potential GPU Physic content, imho!

 

[NIGELG]

Curious to see what the developers may offer. It's good to see more potential GPU Physic content, imho!

It's even better to see a financially successful game.Making that happen is where most of the development dollars should go.

Borderlands2 looks to be such a game....with or without PhysX it will be a success.Secret World??....Not so much even with it's propriety stuff and not enough gameplay to give it a chance.A good game will sell....aka the market decides.

 

[railven]

It's even better to see a financially successful game.Making that happen is where most of the development dollars should go.

Borderlands2 looks to be such a game....with or without PhysX it will be a success.Secret World??....Not so much even with it's propriety stuff and not enough gameplay to give it a chance.A good game will sell....aka the market decides.

This is what I'm getting at. Borderlands 2 is a great example of PhysX marketing. TSW is pretty much a blurp to most gamers. They sold what, 300K to date? GW2 is almost at 3 Million, Pandaria just launched, SW:TOR is going to go F2P soon too.

Age of Conan did better than TSW at launch. I just don't see what PhysX would do for the game. Good way to attract more customers is making the performance hit bigger "but you can turn it off" [of course, and that negates the purpose of it] and not address the issues that game already has. Looking through some Google searchs, it seems those game breaking issues still exist? At this point even if I owned the game, I don't know what a PhysX announcement would mean if the game still has game breaking issues.

 

[NIGELG]

This is what I'm getting at. Borderlands 2 is a great example of PhysX marketing. TSW is pretty much a blurp to most gamers. They sold what, 300K to date? GW2 is almost at 3 Million, Pandaria just launched, SW:TOR is going to go F2P soon too.

Age of Conan did better than TSW at launch. I just don't see what PhysX would do for the game. Good way to attract more customers is making the performance hit bigger "but you can turn it off" [of course, and that negates the purpose of it] and not address the issues that game already has. Looking through some Google searchs, it seems those game breaking issues still exist? At this point even if I owned the game, I don't know what a PhysX announcement would mean if the game still has game breaking issues.

Maybe Nvidia will inject some capital into the game and save it like some other great GPU PhysX titles like Darkest of Days......

 

[railven]

Maybe Nvidia will inject some capital into the game and save it like some other great GPU PhysX titles like Darkest of Days......

By the smiley, I know you're being sarcastic, if this was a position offered to nVidia, I'm sure even they'd pass on it. There are other games on the horizon they can buy, I mean invest capital into haha.

 

[SirPauly]

I just don't see what PhysX would do for the game

Potentially improve Physics, fidelity and performance for the title.

Did you bother to read the entire interview and how PhysX improved performance for the server side?

 

[AtenRa]

Just installed an MSI GTX480 Twin Frozr II with the FX8150 @ 4.6GHz. At 1080p PhysX at High lowest fps i got in single player was 40fps. I ll try to bench when ill get more time.

 

[Makaveli]

Just installed an MSI GTX480 Twin Frozr II with the FX8150 @ 4.6GHz. At 1080p PhysX at High lowest fps i got in single player was 40fps. I ll try to bench when ill get more time.

please also include numbers for 4 player co-op with PhysX on high if you can.

 

[f1sherman]

New HardOCP article on performance and IQ:

http://www.hardocp.com/article/2012/10/01/borderlands_2_gameplay_performance_iq_review

I've changed the title of this thread to reflect that the OP now lists multiple articles on Borderlands 2 performance.

For better or for worse, HardOCP provides no benchmarks of AMD vs. nVidia on equivalent settings, as they run all the nVidia cards with PhysX.

In Borderlands 2 the NVIDIA video cards reigned supreme in providing the best visual experience due to the spot on utilization of PhysX. While users can attempt to enable PhysX on Medium on AMD video cards, we experienced several game crashes and a few system freezes. Because we kept crashing with PhysX enabled on the AMD video cards we determined it was not playable for us, so we ran all of the video cards with PhysX disabled and received great performance.

All three AMD video cards provided a great experience at 2560x1600 and 1080p without PhysX enabled. Still AMD owners can be at rest knowing that they have the option to enable PhysX on Low or Medium by editing the WillowEngine.ini file which uses the CPU. Beware that doing this will have a large impact on performance and may threaten stability, which could cause the game to crash or the system to freeze.

The NVIDIA video cards provided the best overall experience because these could handle PhysX without any stability issues. The GeForce GTX 680, GTX 670, and GTX 660 Ti all provided nearly perfect performance at 2560x1600 and 1080p with all graphics options on the highest settings. The only NVIDIA video card that struggled was the least expensive GeForce GTX 660 (non Ti) card.

 

[rstove02]

Anyone else noticed the UI & text being slightly blurry when looking at quest or inventory screens? This is with all settings on/high on the PC.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Anyone with a 5830 / 7770 tried B2 at 1920x1080? Might be downgrading from a 6970 to a 5830 temporarily (for about a month), so I hope that it would be decently playable.

 

[Termie]

Anyone with a 5830 / 7770 tried B2 at 1920x1080? Might be downgrading from a 6970 to a 5830 temporarily (for about a month), so I hope that it would be decently playable.

Looks like you'd have about 2/3 of the performance:

At 1080p performance will be 10% higher than at 1920x1200, so you'll just hit 45fps.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Gah! My damn glazed eyes missed the 5830 number :S
That's good. Will set the 7970s to mining full time and use the 5830s in the meantime.
GW2, B2 and TF2 should be playable.

 

[railven]

Potentially improve Physics, fidelity and performance for the title.

Did you bother to read the entire interview and how PhysX improved performance for the server side?

When I read that, I interpreted the server side performance increase to packets and overall system latency, which wouldn't directly affect the client side in terms of engine load. I could be wrong, and if I am that is more kudos to them (note I said kudos to them earlier if they optimized the engine.)

My short stint with TSW was very sour, from a craptacular engine (that didn't have the polish of other highly demanding games, and don't get me wrong I feel GW2's engine can cut some fat - some where, and even now Panda engine, but in both I still averaged >50 FPS all (but UberSampling on GW2) settings to max) to quests that seemed to just end (I remember having to do a quest 4 times to get credit, and it was a simple defend the base kind of thing.)

I just get the feeling throwing this kind of support behind TSW is wasted effort, they had a ton of bugs when I played, and considering I played almost a month after release (and reading now them bugs are still there) that is not a good way to promote a game and help it rebound from already abysmal sales.

 

[f1sherman]

PCPER

 

[AdamK47]

Any fellow hex core users playing this game with Radeons and PhysX at medium?

 

[Makaveli]

Any fellow hex core users playing this game with Radeons and PhysX at medium?

i'm playing it on low but I can check it on medium and let you know.

 

[wand3r3r]

Any fellow hex core users playing this game with Radeons and PhysX at medium?

I tried high for a few minutes but the slideshow put that to an abrupt halt. (980 4+GHz/7950) I actually haven't even tried medium is it worth a try or does it bog down pretty badly?

 

[Makaveli]

I tried high for a few minutes but the slideshow put that to an abrupt halt. (980 4+GHz/7950) I actually haven't even tried medium is it worth a try or does it bog down pretty badly?

if your getting a slide show and your on a 7950 and i'm on a 6970 there is no point of me trying

Im still thinking of throwing a GT430 into machine just for Physx but I don't think it will be powerful enough not to mention I need a card that is going to be as quiet as the rest of the machine so still looking around.

 

[wand3r3r]

if your getting a slide show and your on a 7950 and i'm on a 6970 there is no point of me trying

Im still thinking of throwing a GT430 into machine just for Physx but I don't think it will be powerful enough not to mention I need a card that is going to be as quiet as the rest of the machine so still looking around.

Well I only tried high, and low. Low is seamless, high was a slideshow. It may be worth trying medium, Idk what the visuals are like. Low lacks the physx effect and the high effects are exaggerated. Regardless, the physx is running on the CPU (with AMD cards) so it's hardly a difference most likely between a 6970 and 7950.

 

[wand3r3r]

Ok, now I tried physx medium with a HD 7950 and an i7 980 @stock. The effects are pretty decent, water is similar to high but it didn't seem like there was near the total particle explosions. There certainly are the same effects but it seems a bit toned down.

When I got into a battle the FPS quickly tanked to literally a slideshow. I tried to stay there for a couple minutes but it didn't clear up so I just left and set it back to low. I recorded the fps for the last couple minutes and it was from 10-40. I could try the overclocked 980 @4.2Ghz but I don't even suspect it will help much.

 

[wand3r3r]

Idk if this was already posted. The site is german but the charts are universal. The site tested physx on the gpu and cpu.

http://www.pcgameshardware.de/Borderlands-2-PC-234034/Tests/Borderlands-2-Physx-Test-1026921/