Arkaign

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Was thinking about it, and it seems like it's 'cool' to dis on Bono for his charity/humanitarian work.

I really doubt anyone here on AT (myself included) has done half as much good in terms of philanthropy and public service as he has.

For that matter, many others seem to share in this silly public condemnation.

Bill Gates gets slammed all the time, but his foundation set new records in charity/relief.

Warren Buffett, George Soros, etc, etc.

Is it a psychological weakness that makes people want to strike out against people who are trying to make a positive difference in the world? I just can't figure it out.

I can totally understand not liking his music, or of parodying his undeniably large persona, but outright anger/hate towards him, or dissing the work that he does, seems petty and weak to me.
 

maddogchen

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never heard of being cool for dissing Bono or Warren Buffet. I don't think my friends know who George Soros is. Most people I know like Warren Buffet.

But then I guess I'm just not in the "cool" crowd.
 

Anubis

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no idea who George Soros

people hate on bono because hes so full of himself

i also have a hatred for people with 1 word names
 

Kadarin

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I don't diss Bono for his charity work. I diss his band for putting out crappy music lately.
 

ElFenix

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wasn't aware that george soros had charities other than his massive political donations
 

dakels

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I don't know anyone that "hates" them either. But it's easy to dislike the walk-on-water attitude Bono can sometimes give off. It's a common problem I believe with charitable functions. Every "cause" has preachers. Most of us don't like to be preached to, nor made to feel contemptible because we don't do "our part".
 

vi edit

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Originally posted by: dakels
I don't know anyone that "hates" them either. But it's easy to dislike the walk-on-water attitude Bono can sometimes give off. It's a common problem I believe with charitable functions. Every "cause" has preachers. Most of us don't like to be preached to, nor made to feel contemptible because we don't do "our part".

Pretty much. He turned the corner from entertainer to activist using his former profession as a grandstand.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: ElFenix
wasn't aware that george soros had charities other than his massive political donations

http://www.sorostrading.com/art12_16_96.html

" Alfred Stepan, who helped found the Central European University, a $55 million Soros project in Budapest, noted the scale of Mr. Soros's philanthropy. "If you rank a donor by assets, Soros is nothing," said Mr. Stepan, a fellow at All Souls College at Oxford. the Ford Foundation, for example, which committed $342 million in 1996, has assets estimated at $8 billion. But, Mr. Stepan added, "if you measure it by dispensed gifts, especially in proportion to income, Soros is the world's single largest donor, individual or foundation.""
 

spikespiegal

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Bono nailed Heather Graham. I haven't, so, he sucks :cool:

Anyways, kudos for him for using some of his fame to promote charity work. While I' sure he has cash to spare, there are a lot of Hollywood celebs and music artists who don't do the same.

Othwerwise, U-2 ranks on my list as one of the most over-rated bands of all time, but I don't hate them.
 

BrokenVisage

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It's amazing how well enough people on here know Bono that they can be so sure he's as pretentious and full of himself as they make him out to be. The man has great talent, is a world-renowned front man for one of the greatest bands ever (not on here obviously), and instead of kicking back and letting the money/groupies come pouring in he actually tries to do good in the world, or at least that's the facade he puts up that most of you would content. Do the things he does get him good publicity and shine a light that makes him look like a real humanitarian? Of course it does, but what's so wrong with that if it's not just some kind of farce or publicity stunt? Do you see him holding up a fucking starving African child like a trophy while smiling for a camera like a man obsessed with exposure? I don't see it, so maybe someone on here could provide some kind of non-opinionated proof that he's a no more then a self-obsessed, egotistical, glory hound who does all this good only to up his image and get his picture in the paper.

Its just pathetic how most of you justify your hate for Bono, compare him to the vocalists of many other popular bands and tell me he's not a better person then most if not all of them. I'm willing to bet the circle-jerk most of you had in that thread calling U2 a band that shouldn't be as big as they are were strongly motived by this jaded, misguided hate for Bono alone. Yeah you can hate whoever you want to for whatever reason, I'm surely guilty of hating some people under false pretenses, but never have I seen such unsubstantiated hate for a man who seems to have done nothing wrong while providing us with great music and a good outlook on life.

Touching on the music of U2 once more.. just look at how many over-rated songs he helped put out and how badly they did at the time...amazing
 

EGGO

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Gates doesn't really get slammed in my opinion. Bono does, and it's not because it's cool to do.

There's a big difference between the two. One is full of himself, the other can laugh at himself. One doesn't let it all get to his head, the other can't stop talking about it or have pictures about it.
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
It's amazing how well enough people on here know Bono that they can be so sure he's as pretentious and full of himself as they make him out to be. The man has great talent, is a world-renowned front man for one of the greatest bands ever (not on here obviously), and instead of kicking back and letting the money/groupies come pouring in he actually tries to do good in the world, or at least that's the facade he puts up that most of you would content. Do the things he does get him good publicity and shine a light that makes him look like a real humanitarian? Of course it does, but what's so wrong with that if it's not just some kind of farce or publicity stunt? Do you see him holding up a fucking starving African child like a trophy while smiling for a camera like a man obsessed with exposure? I don't see it, so maybe someone on here could provide some kind of non-opinionated proof that he's a no more then a self-obsessed, egotistical, glory hound who does all this good only to up his image and get his picture in the paper.

Its just pathetic how most of you justify your hate for Bono, compare him to the vocalists of many other popular bands and tell me he's not a better person then most if not all of them. I'm willing to bet the circle-jerk most of you had in that thread calling U2 a band that shouldn't be as big as they are were strongly motived by this jaded, misguided hate for Bono alone. Yeah you can hate whoever you want to for whatever reason, I'm surely guilty of hating some people under false pretenses, but never have I seen such unsubstantiated hate for a man who seems to have done nothing wrong while providing us with great music and a good outlook on life.

sorry we offended you bono
 

yllus

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Didn't Soros get rich by basically trying to make various nations' currencies tank?
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
It's amazing how well enough people on here know Bono that they can be so sure he's as pretentious and full of himself as they make him out to be. The man has great talent, is a world-renowned front man for one of the greatest bands ever (not on here obviously), and instead of kicking back and letting the money/groupies come pouring in he actually tries to do good in the world, or at least that's the facade he puts up that most of you would content. Do the things he does get him good publicity and shine a light that makes him look like a real humanitarian? Of course it does, but what's so wrong with that if it's not just some kind of farce or publicity stunt? Do you see him holding up a fucking starving African child like a trophy while smiling for a camera like a man obsessed with exposure? I don't see it, so maybe someone on here could provide some kind of non-opinionated proof that he's a no more then a self-obsessed, egotistical, glory hound who does all this good only to up his image and get his picture in the paper.

Its just pathetic how most of you justify your hate for Bono, compare him to the vocalists of many other popular bands and tell me he's not a better person then most if not all of them. I'm willing to bet the circle-jerk most of you had in that thread calling U2 a band that shouldn't be as big as they are were strongly motived by this jaded, misguided hate for Bono alone. Yeah you can hate whoever you want to for whatever reason, I'm surely guilty of hating some people under false pretenses, but never have I seen such unsubstantiated hate for a man who seems to have done nothing wrong while providing us with great music and a good outlook on life.

Harsh, but I agree.

Bono could just as easily live like Mick Jagger or Michael Jackson if he wanted, but thankfully for us he lives like Paul Hewson, and he has walked the walk to match the talk. He's also willing to talk things over with anyone to try to get help and focus upon things we can change for the better. The man has gone to President Bush, and that might seem crazy, but it's logical; sometimes you have to go to the top.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: EGGO
Gates doesn't really get slammed in my opinion. Bono does, and it's not because it's cool to do.

There's a big difference between the two. One is full of himself, the other can laugh at himself. One doesn't let it all get to his head, the other can't stop talking about it or have pictures about it.

Bono is the ultimate in self-parody, haven't you seen that? He has historically lampooned the whole rock-star mythos, and himself in particular.
 

jonks

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The sunglasses make him look pretentious. I have nothing against him.
 

BrokenVisage

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Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
It's amazing how well enough people on here know Bono that they can be so sure he's as pretentious and full of himself as they make him out to be. The man has great talent, is a world-renowned front man for one of the greatest bands ever (not on here obviously), and instead of kicking back and letting the money/groupies come pouring in he actually tries to do good in the world, or at least that's the facade he puts up that most of you would content. Do the things he does get him good publicity and shine a light that makes him look like a real humanitarian? Of course it does, but what's so wrong with that if it's not just some kind of farce or publicity stunt? Do you see him holding up a fucking starving African child like a trophy while smiling for a camera like a man obsessed with exposure? I don't see it, so maybe someone on here could provide some kind of non-opinionated proof that he's a no more then a self-obsessed, egotistical, glory hound who does all this good only to up his image and get his picture in the paper.

Its just pathetic how most of you justify your hate for Bono, compare him to the vocalists of many other popular bands and tell me he's not a better person then most if not all of them. I'm willing to bet the circle-jerk most of you had in that thread calling U2 a band that shouldn't be as big as they are were strongly motived by this jaded, misguided hate for Bono alone. Yeah you can hate whoever you want to for whatever reason, I'm surely guilty of hating some people under false pretenses, but never have I seen such unsubstantiated hate for a man who seems to have done nothing wrong while providing us with great music and a good outlook on life.

sorry we offended you bono

Candid and insightful as always anoobis. :thumbsup:

No commentary saying I'm acting like a tool this time?

And don't get me started on TooL.. :p
 

Anubis

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Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
Originally posted by: Anubis
Originally posted by: BrokenVisage
It's amazing how well enough people on here know Bono that they can be so sure he's as pretentious and full of himself as they make him out to be. The man has great talent, is a world-renowned front man for one of the greatest bands ever (not on here obviously), and instead of kicking back and letting the money/groupies come pouring in he actually tries to do good in the world, or at least that's the facade he puts up that most of you would content. Do the things he does get him good publicity and shine a light that makes him look like a real humanitarian? Of course it does, but what's so wrong with that if it's not just some kind of farce or publicity stunt? Do you see him holding up a fucking starving African child like a trophy while smiling for a camera like a man obsessed with exposure? I don't see it, so maybe someone on here could provide some kind of non-opinionated proof that he's a no more then a self-obsessed, egotistical, glory hound who does all this good only to up his image and get his picture in the paper.

Its just pathetic how most of you justify your hate for Bono, compare him to the vocalists of many other popular bands and tell me he's not a better person then most if not all of them. I'm willing to bet the circle-jerk most of you had in that thread calling U2 a band that shouldn't be as big as they are were strongly motived by this jaded, misguided hate for Bono alone. Yeah you can hate whoever you want to for whatever reason, I'm surely guilty of hating some people under false pretenses, but never have I seen such unsubstantiated hate for a man who seems to have done nothing wrong while providing us with great music and a good outlook on life.

sorry we offended you bono

Candid and insightful as always anoobis. :thumbsup:

No commentary saying I'm acting like a tool this time?

And don't get me started on TooL.. :p


when was the last time i called you a tool?
 
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I don't like Bono because he's a hypocritical primadonna. He jumps on all these causes and gives away money, which is cool... but then he flies his hat first class because God forbid he should spend more than two hours away from his headwear. He spent $1700.00 to fly his fucking hat out for a show. Do you know how far $1700.00 can go for a poor family?

He also refused to pay taxes in Ireland, and when the government pressed him, he moved the U2 offices out of Ireland to avoid payment.

He strikes me as being completely full of himself, and he gives off the air that he wants everyone else to bow down and lick his asshole because he has the decency to toss the commoners a bone once in a while. He's a pretentious douchebag.

And his music sucks.
 

ThePresence

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I don't hate him for his charity/humanitarian work, I think the world would be a better place if more celebs spent their money that way. I dislike him for his politics. Same reason I don't like Springsteen. They are musicans/singers, they were not elected to public office. Sing, you're good at it. If you want to play politics, run for office. People aren't cheering you for your fantastic political experience or originality of thought. You didn't get to where you are because you are this great political mind. You have a good band. Sing.